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MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

BioTech posted:

Regeneration is actually crazy good and way better than Day of Judgment. I have no idea how after the terrible Universal Soldier sequels this one happened and can understand why not many people saw it, but it it seriously good. Bit too much of the ground & pound stuff for my taste if I remember correctly, but there is a really cool long take of Van Damme clearing out a building and seeing how broken Deveraux is even after decades of therapy only to be asked to throw it all aside was way more effective than it should have been in a low budget movie like this. The not too surprising guest appearance was also really well done.

It worked because John Hyams was allowed to completely disregard the terrible sequel and the even worse DTV movies and just go "So hey, this is a sequel to the first movie and that's how we're doing it". Of course, actually making good movies does help.
So in the official Universal Soldier canon there are 3 canon movies (Universal Soldier (1992), Regeneration (2009) and Day of Reckoning (2012)) and 3 non-canon (Universal Soldier II: Brothers in Arms (1998 DTV), Universal Soldier III: Unfinished Business (1998 DTV) and Universal Soldier: The Return (1999 theatrical release)).

The two DTV movies used the same characters but recast with other actors and were intended to lead to a TV series but I think the 1999 theatrical sequel with JVCD and Dolph back onboard pretty much killed that idea.



On the main topic of this thread, I would like to recommend that people watch The Trust with Nicolas Cage and Elijah Wood. It was released last year and I was very pleasantly surprised by it. Cage is his usual masterful self and Elijah Wood really brings it for what is essentially a pretty lowkey DTV movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLspHA8m6Ac

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MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Basebf555 posted:

Trust is a solidly entertaining movie, but I wouldn't call it an action movie. There's barely any action in it at all, the trailer is a bit deceptive.

Yeah, I guess. There is that one firefight in the apartment though.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

McSpanky posted:

East St. Louis, the Flint to St. Louis' Detroit.

When you have the second highest murder rate per capita, I don't think you have much room to criticise really.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

LesterGroans posted:

Thanks, I'll check them out.

Now that my 31 Horror Movies in October is done I'm back to catching up on hidden DTV action gems I've missed out on. I've got Ninja Shadow of a Tear and the 12 Rounds and Never Back Down sequels on deck, then I'll check out Death Race 2 and 3.

You can safely skip 12 Rounds 2 unless you really want to see Randy Orton trying to act. And if you should want that for some reason, then you should watch The Condemned 2 instead, since he apparently only gets to be in sequels that have nothing to do with the original movie.

12 Rounds 3 is pretty fun, since Dean Ambrose doesn't find it too hard to be a gruff guy and that's really his role.

The first Condemned is a hilariously mean-spirited version of Battle Royale, featuring convicts being forced to kill each other while it is being aired worldwide. You should watch it, if you haven't already.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

LesterGroans posted:

I read this too late and already watched 12 Rounds 2 :(

I definitely didn't hate it, but it's a lesser retread of the first 12 Rounds, which was itself a lesser remake of Die Hard with a Vengeance. I'm enjoying 12 Rounds 3 though. This Dean Ambrose guy has a goofy charm.

I have the Condemneds on my too-watch list as well.


His earlier sci-fi stuff (Capricorn One, Outland, 2010) is cool. I haven't seen The Star Chamber, but I hear it's a great concept and a so-so execution. Timecop and End of Days are bonkers and worth a watch.

Avoid A Sound of Thunder at all costs.

12 Rounds 3 is helped a bit by not originally being part of the 12 Rounds "franchise", such as it is. It was initially just called Lockdown, with the same story of Dean Ambrose being locked in the police station with the corrupt cops. Then at some point someone apparently thought it would sell better by being called 12 Rounds 3: Lockdown despite having nothing to do with the first two movies.

Speaking of stupid WWE action movies, there's like 5 The Marine movies at this point that you could watch.
The first one stars John Cena and Robert Patrick and is full explosions.
The second stars the son of the Million Dollar Man.
Three through 5 stars The Miz and they just get increasingly more insane.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Fast & Furious 6 and 7 are definitely up there for stupid fun action movies in the last five years, even if they're sort of a thing of their own.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I just remembered that Michael Caine was a vigilante action guy in 2009 at the age of ~75.

is Harry Brown a movie worth watching?

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I mean, Tarantino also said he wasn't going to do Hateful Eight after the script got leaked, so maybe take what he says with a grain of salt.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Wheat Loaf posted:

I've never seen Boondock Saints. I always thought it had something to do with the Aaron McGruder comic strip and cartoon The Boondocks. :v:

It is one of those movies where if you're 15 when you watch it, it is the coolest movie in the world.

Then if you actually rewatch it later on, you'll realise how bad it is.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Apparently Taxi 5 is on the way, presumably without Samy Naceri after his personal problems.

The first two Taxi movies are great fun though. The third has a dubbed Sly Stallone in the opening sequence and that is all I remember from it. Haven't seen 4 or the american remake.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Neo Rasa posted:

He's so awesome.

I forget, was the Gone in 60 Seconds remake a huge flop? I never even saw it. I mean I know he'll do any movie and loves to gamble/buy warehouses full of comic books but I remember even in the early 00s wondering why he wasn't in big action stuff anymore.


Financially it did well (~$240m total gross on a ~$90m budget) but it just wasn't a very interesting movie.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
ok, action movie thread. I'm starting my Bruce Willis weekend.

I have Die Hards 1-3, The Last Boy Scout and Last Man Standing.

I'm starting off with Last Man Standing because it has been at least 15 years since I've seen it last and I remember liking it. I mean, you can't really go too wrong with remaking Yojimbo after all.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
is Live Free or Die Hard the one with Justin Long as some sort of hacker and there's a scene where Bruce kills a helicopter with a car?

If so, I vaguely remember watching like half of it at some point.


edit: also, Last Man Standing has Michael Imperioli playing a gangster. Quelle surprise.

It has been surprisingly bloodless so far, despite Bruce killing three guys with about 10 bullets to each man. The actual gunplay seems a bit flat too, as well the gun sounds. Maybe that just comes with that fake noir style they went with.

MrBling fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 3, 2018

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Finally got around to re-watching The Last Boy Scout.

Reading all the behind scenes stuff about this just makes it even crazier that they managed to string together a pretty decent action movie. The fact that Willis and Wayans supposedly hated each other on set doesn't show at all.

Willis plays like a hypermacho version of John McClane and I'm not really sure if that is him wanting to be a "real" action star or the studio simply wanting more Die Hard.

Also, lol:

quote:

The film had a very troubled production. Everybody involved in the film had a miserable time working on it. Producer Joel Silver and main actor Bruce Willis took over the production, altered much of Shane Black's original script and forced director Tony Scott to film scenes he disliked under threat of being fired. Silver mentioned in later interviews how making of The Last Boy Scout was one of the three worst experiences in his life, while Willis swore that he would never work with Silver again. In his next film, True Romance, Scott parodied Silver by having character Lee Donowitz, a movie producer who is also a cocaine user and dealer, act just like Silver.

quote:

Assistant director James Skotchdopole later recalled how some of the production problems were caused due to the “Overabundance of alpha males on that project”. As he said in an interview; “Bruce was at the height of his stardom, so was Joel, so was Tony and so was Shane. There were a lot of people who had a lot of opinions about what to do. There were some heated, early-Nineties, testosterone charged personalities on the line. It was a ‘charged environment’, shall we say.”

Writer Shane Black also said about problems with the script; “I was forced to do more rewriting on that movie than on anything else I’ve done. There was tremendous pressure from the studio to get Bruce Willis and have this be a follow-up to Die Hard. He was reluctant, and rightly so: ‘This whole movie is about me saving my wife. I just did that in Die Hard.’ So they said, ‘OK, let’s minimize the wife and, and while we’re at it, add a big finale. There was a general pressure to somehow make it bigger.”

I guess they went bigger by not just throwing the bad guy off of a tall thing, but having him get sliced by a helicopter on the way down. And then having the big villain get blown up alongside a big chunk of the neighbourhood, just to really drive home how dead he was.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

Where did you read all this? I'm a Shane Black mark, and I've loved The Last Boy Scout ever since I was a young teenager. I wouldn't mind reading the behind-the-scenes stuff. I also loved True Romance, so I assumed the Lee Donowitz character was Tarantino taking the piss out of rear end in a top hat Hollywood executives he dealt with early in his career (maybe even Weinstein), without realizing it could ever be Tony Scott with a grudge against Joel Silver.

Could Kevin Spacey's character in Swimming With Sharks also be based on Silver, then? Or was that revealed to be someone else?

All that is from the wikipedia entry. You can follow the source links down a few rabbit holes from there.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I rewatched The Bourne Identity for who knows which time, the other day and it is still just such a good movie.

I don't know how long Matt Damon trained for it, but all the hand to hand combat scenes are just amazing. Of course, it helps that you can actually see what is going on.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Was the Jeremy Renner Bourne movie any good? I never got around to watching it.

I have a soft spot for Tony Gilroy after Michael Clayton but somehow never noticed that he directed Bourne Legacy.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Whenever people mention shakycam and fast cuts all I can think of is the current WWE production style, which is headache inducing at best.

https://twitter.com/AndrewTRich/status/968941863087550467

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Costner is also in a place where he doesn't really care that much about making movies anymore.
He is happy farting around his huge beach house, playing golf and making country music.

I think he also still owns a casino in South Dakota.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
The Jackal is a decidedly non-thrilling thriller. It does feature Jack Black getting shot with that preposterously huge gun.

This is really all you need from the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUKN_YF8tjA

Unless you really want to laugh at Richard Gere's horrible accent that is.

MrBling fucked around with this message at 11:28 on May 12, 2018

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I guess someone finally made a danish action movie that wasn't action-comedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0C2i_Jmh90

I'll have to find it.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Neo Rasa posted:

Is The Magnificent Seven remake good?

I liked it, but I'm also basically going to like any western movie so maybe I'm not the best judge of it. :v:

I mean, there really was no reason to do a re-make but the cast is great and as a mentioned the body count is pretty ludicrous.


If you want to watch a movie that basically Death Wish done as a western you could do worse than track down The Salvation. I mean it is probably the only time you'd get to see Mads Mikkelsen kill Eric Cantona.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I watched Shakedown last night, thinking it would be a typical 80s buddycop movie with badguys being blasted away non stop.



It wasn't quite that.

This is the plot summary from wikipedia.

quote:

Roland Dalton (Weller) is a burned-out, mild-mannered Manhattan public defender, and his last case before leaving legal aid is crack dealer Michael Jones (Richard Brooks), accused of shooting to death police officer Patrick O'Leary in Central Park. According to Jones, the shooting was in self-defense and that officer O'Leary was a 'Blue Jean Cop' (an opportunistic police officer who robs drug dealers).

Being a 'creature of habit', Dalton seeks the truth to his mysterious case and looks to Richie Marks (Sam Elliott), a renegade loner NYPD narcotics agent. Dalton realizes the prosecutor in his last case is a former love interest, the smart and sexy Susan Cantrell (Patricia Charbonneau). Throughout the trial Roland rekindles this former affair with Susan unbeknown to his fiancée Gail (Blanche Baker).

Roland and Marks eventually learn that O'Leary was working with a large number of dirty cops who purchased blue jeans and an expensive car. The dirty cops were working with drug lord Nicky 'N.C.' Carr (Antonio Fargas). Roland at one point breaks into the police station's evidence locker to locate the cassette tape that Jones had in a boom box radio at the time of his shooting. The tape recorded the entire incident and when Roland attempts to get the tape he is taken hostage by the team of dirty cops. Just before Roland is going to be killed, Marks bursts into the room and shoots the cops, saving Roland.

Although Roland makes it to court, with the assistance of an insane cab driver (Tom Mardirosian) the judge refuses to allow the tape into evidence. After making an impassioned closing statement, the jury acquits Jones of the shooting. Marks then shows up in a Porsche purchased by O'Leary and they go to the airport to hunt down Carr and the last of the dirty cops. Richie jumps onto the planes landing gear and after shooting out an engine and tossing a hand grenade into the landing gear compartment, he jumps to safety just as the plane explodes.

The movie ends with Roland again working as a public defender, he's broken up with Gail and is once again dating Susan.

This leaves out an entire bit where Sam Elliot and 3 dirty cops are using an informer to bust into Carr's nightclub and after he made bail he sent Bari K. Willerford who is this insane muscle/hitman to a hotel in the middle of New York and electrocutes that same informer by pulling out two big wires directly from a junction box with his bare hands and applying them to the bed posts that the informer is handcuffed to (he was having a bdsm thing with a prostitute).
Then he runs outside and pulls a machine pistol out of his coat to shoot the cops that showed up and after he ran out of bullets he killed two more with throwing knifes that were shot out of some spider-man like contraption strapped to his forearms. Then he takes off in the police car, so Sam Elliot and Peter Weller steals a threewheeled motorbike from a randomly passing group of bikers and they go after him. Elliot is driving and Weller is shooting the most impossibly huge magnum from the backseat and this is a long chase through New York.
It ends with the cop car going over some half-finished highway bridge and landing on the roof with the motorcycle following it down (the two heroes had of course jumped off), so Sam Elliot first shoots the motorcycle ONCE making it explode as the bad guy is crawling out of the overturned car and then he shoots the car ONCE making it explode. Finally killing the monster.

It was the most insane scene in the entire movie. Until the end where they casually blow up the jet with a hand grenade.

The rest was kinda boring really. Sam Elliot ends up killing a few dirty cops (David Proval being one) and it was fun seeing a young John C. McGinley as a very 80s lawyer. Richard Brooks was very good as the drug dealer that got shot too.

The movie portrayed late 80s New York as a dirty hell hole swimming in drugs and basically people were stepping on crack vials everywhere so in that sense it almost felt like some of the action/vigilante stuff from the 70s where everything is grimy and dirty.

So unless you have a huge yearning for 80s clothes and hair and some casual prison rape jokes, its not really worth watching it.

I was just really hoping for Sam Elliot to go nuts and kill people. :(

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Universal Soldier is actually two continuities.

Universal Soldier 1, Regeneration and Day of Reckoning are considered as the official Canon continuity by the people in charge.

The Return and the two early DTV are non-canon.
I wrote a bit about it very early on in this thread.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I watched Accident Man last night and it was a pretty fun ride. Would have liked to see more of his "accident man skills" though.

Some of his fighting sequences with Mick looked oddly light-weight though, like they didn't really connect.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Franchescanado posted:


Timecop is on my radar, so I'll check out Sudden Death as well.

My problem so far with Van Damme is that the more well-known movies, like Universal Soldier, kinda hold back on what makes Van Damme fun for me. The three I mentioned earlier are more bizarre movies in general, but they let JCVD kick more rear end and take more of a beating. The action is just more satisfying and fun.

But I haven't even seen Bloodsport yet, so I may just have a skewed perspective.



You have seen Kickboxer I hope?
If you want to see Van Damme take a beating, I guess Lionheart is the movie for you.

Double Impact is a fun one too and it has Bolo Yeung, It also kicked off a thing where JCVD plays two characters in a movie, I think he did like 5 movies where he has a dual role.
Maximum Risk is a movie where Van Damme plays his own dead brother, it is directed by Ringo Lam and is full of car chases. It is also a fun movie.
And of course, Assassination Games if you want to see Scott Adkins team up with Van Damme.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
is The Tournament worth a watch? It sounds pretty crazy.

quote:

A group of the world's wealthiest and most powerful men, who are themselves tied into law enforcement agencies and criminal underworlds alike, and who also control the international media with their billions, have devised the ultimate entertainment for themselves, simply referred to as "The Tournament", which takes place at intervals of every seven or ten years in an unspecified location, usually a large city.

"Contestants" volunteer, but due to the nature of the tournament are some of the toughest or craziest individuals on the planet. They are expected to kill and only the last surviving combatant will win the cash prize of £10 million offered by William Randolph Hearst. The men and women running the tournament not only view it as entertainment, but also bet high stakes on the outcome as a huge gambling tournament, serving as the source of excitement also for the millionaires.

For each tournament, combatants are selected from the world's special forces, serial killers, athletes, trained contract killers and assassins. The last combatant standing receives not only the cash prize, but also the glory and reputation of having the title of World's Number 1, and which itself carries the legendary million dollar a bullet contract killing price tag. Each of the contestants carries a tracking device, embedded under their skin, allowing the observers to monitor their movements, and the contestants to track each other. The tournament lasts twenty-four hours, and if no one has won, then the tracking devices will explode.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0471041/

Cast doesn't look half bad either.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
This is still the best thing about that movie.

quote:

Movie actor Thomas Jane was left full of dread after he accidentally stabbed his PUNISHER co-star, wrestler Kevin Nash, in a fight stunt.

The 35-year-old star insisted on performing all his own stunts, but forgot to replace his real blade for a prop one during one action scene.

Jane says, "This is the problem when you let your actors do their own stunts. I stabbed him, I punctured the skin a little bit.

"That look on my face of awe (in the film) is for real. He didn't move. But it's never a good day to stab your co-star when he's 6 feet 10 inches."

quote:

NASH: The first night that we just walked through the fight scene, and I walked through it with the stunt guy first a couple of times and then Thomas came, because Thomas was finishing up some shots. It was probably around 8:00, and I could tell he was beat, because I saw on the call sheet that he had like a 5:30am call time.
So he'd been there 14 hours already, but he wanted to go through it. One thing that's good is that I can remember a 20-minute match, let alone a 5-minute fight scene. As far as doing something physical like that, memory-wise, once you lay out what you want me to do, I don't need to go through it more than once. I think that was good, because we went through it, and then we went through it a second time, and then I just told the stunt coordinator that I had it and Thomas said he had it. I think Thomas realized that, "Okay, this guy's not going to be a stiff."
But then at the same time, I know that when they hired me for it they were just like, "Now, you know you can't hit him. Our insurance won't cover if you do damage to this guy;" It was like, "You realize, you big goof, if you hurt him we don't shoot"

IGNFF: And the irony in all this is that he stabbed you.

NASH: Yes! He actually stabbed me! Thank god he got me in the collarbone! He stabbed me right in the collarbone. If it had been up in the meat, who knows? He could have drilled that thing right in me pretty good. That would have been a nice one.

IGNFF: How exactly did that happen?

NASH: I guess one of the stunt coordinator guys didn't change the real butterfly with the retractable. And he went "shh shh shh shh" and he just looked at me. I'm not going to go, "Jesus!" because I don't want to kill the scene. And he goes, "I just stabbed him." I go, "It's not that bad." And he goes, "No, it's bad. You're bleeding." I said, "It's not that bad," and I looked in the mirror and there was a little blood because they'd squared the blade off anyway. So it was just a puncture wound. It was nothing. Poor Thomas was like, "Geez,, I just stabbed this guy."

And also Nash pointing out that stunt work is both harder an easier than wrestling. Easier because you only have to worry about a few camera angles, harder because you can't actually just punch the other guy to make it look good.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I've started a rewatch of Justified and I forgot just how much fun that show is.

Timothy Olyphant gets to shoot a LOT of people as a modern day cowboy running around in Kentucky.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Also definitely watch Person of Interest if your own interests (heh!) includes watching Jim Caviezel shooting endless bad guys in the kneecaps.

And he gets a cool dog too!

And I guess the whole masterfully written story line about artificial intelligence which is really unparalleled in TV or movies.


edit: and on a whole different level. Burn Notice is probably the most pulpy fun you can have in 45 minutes and I'm sad that Jeffrey Donovan doesn't seem to get much work really. His magician show was real good but sadly got cancelled.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
It was probably a bit weird that the only reason JJ Abrams got the job was because Tom Cruise had been binge-watching Alias.

Granted, JJ was essentially third choice since Fincher dropped out early and Joe Carnahan spent 15 months getting fed up with not getting to do the movie the way he wanted to do it.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Wheat Loaf posted:

Huh. Hired on the strength of... Smokin' Aces?

(I've heard that Narc is meant to be very good but I haven't seen it.)

The executive producer on Narc, Paula Wagner was also the EP on Mission Impossible 3. So that is probably how that came about.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Wheat Loaf posted:

Who'd have been the obvious straightforward blockbuster directors in 1996? Tony Scott's Mission Impossible might have been fun to see.

Imagine if you will: John McTiernan's Mission Impossible.

or hell, Michael Mann's Mission Impossible.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I have fond memories of John Carpenter's Vampires being a fun sort of cowboy vampire movie but it has been an awful long time since I watched it.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Chas McGill posted:

I think someone mentioned the fight scenes in Banshee in this thread and I'm glad I followed up on the recommendation because the show is a lot of fun. Also really bad and dumb, but the fighting is wonderful.

It is a stupid as hell show, but all the action is great. There are some absolutely huge fire fights as well.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Went and saw Ant-Man and the Wasp last night. It was a pretty funny little action movie.

They got pretty creative with the fight scenes and the car chases and all the shrinking/growing stuff.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVN4QVskNrc

I feel like this is the kind of movies that The Rock would have ended up making if he didn't break through the way he did.

I mean, I like Big Dave well enough but he is hardly the greatest actor or even the most charismatic.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Finally got to see Mission Impossible: Fallout (it didn't open until yesterday here) so now I can go back and read all the spoilers from the last couple of pages.

Overall really enjoyed the movie, some real good action. Tom Cruise also giving some nods to his age in that he gets banged up a lot during the movie and isn't just some superman action hero.
I liked how basically all the action was filmed in a way that really showed off the whole "yes, Tom Cruise really does all his own stunts" thing.


Completely unrelated to MI, I started watching the TV show Shooter and boy oh boy, that show might as well be titled "Headshot: The TV series" because there sure are a lot of people getting killed in this.
The entire first season (10 episodes) is the plot of the book (Point of Impact) that the movie was also based on but it is obviously more fleshed out than the movie could hope to be. I still have issues with the main character being named Bob Lee Swagger because that is an almost impossibly american name and yet "Bob Lee" doesn't really roll off the tongue very well.
I'm a few episodes into season 2 and it still has a lot of people getting shot and some pretty satisfying shootouts really. There are quite a few flashbacks to Swaggers military duty in Afghanistan which has a lot of sniper stuff for the people that like that.

edit: and point of humour, despite featuring some very gratuitous violence the word "gently caress" is still blanked out.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Oh hey, Upgrade is out on bluray/digital on August 28th which is great because the loving thing never got a theatrical release here and I really want to watch it.



Also, does anyone know why Triple Threat has been in post-production for the better part of a year? It needs to be released already.

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MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Finally got a chance to watch Upgrade and boy was it a) a lot of fun and b) completely not what was I expecting.

A lot more future sci-fi stuff than expected, not that I mind. It had a kind of Deus Ex: Human Revolution feel in the setting.

The ending also wasn't what I thought was going to happen, but good on them for doing it.

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