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kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Enough people were posting about it, I figured we'd start a thread.

I'm gonna say anything specific roll with spoiler tags?

Ep 2:
The concussion scene was interesting to watch. At the D1 level, he'll have 5 trainers around him at all times and would go straight into the clinic. There he had one guy who left him in an alley to go watch the game? Well done scene, though.

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kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Coach still is a mess of yelling.

And the counselor lady still cares too much for her own good.


e: Oh he's trying so hard to be positive, uplifting. You can tell, he's going against his nature.

kayakyakr fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jul 22, 2017

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Ep 2: Jeeesus those kids had a rough loving life.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Ep 3:
Isaiah Wright is fuuuuucked up. That's gonna be a story for the rest of this season I'm betting.

e: I think they're playing games with the box score in editing. The scoreboard in the background had a totally different score than what they advertised. Got the TD's backwards, I guess for drama?

kayakyakr fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jul 22, 2017

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Oh god, a Mississippi backyard baptism... That's so south that I can't even.

e: This defense looks like Tech's defense at times. Appropriate considering there's a transfer from Tech at MLB.

kayakyakr fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jul 22, 2017

Kidd-Liggit
Sep 6, 2011

You mean I have to go to Philly?
Binged the season today

Finale spoilers:
I'm not surprised the OC resigned, Coach Stephens bringing up his ex-wife and kids was beyond the pale

Also, Kam may be the only player I've disliked over the 2 seasons.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
Ep 4: Hugh Freeze stops in to scout players lol

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Ep 6: I would watch a series about Coahoma CC.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Would have enjoyed one more episode to get the follow up rather than the blurbs about what the follow ups were, but strong season.


Kidd-Liggit posted:

Binged the season today

Finale spoilers:
I'm not surprised the OC resigned, Coach Stephens bringing up his ex-wife and kids was beyond the pale

Also, Kam may be the only player I've disliked over the 2 seasons.

Finale:
Yeah, that was unacceptable. The biggest problem with Stephens is that he doesn't let up. He lays into someone and then just keeps going. I'm actually surprised that he didn't move to a different program. There's some JC out there that wants an OC like him.

Agreed on Kam. I mean, I can get how he's hosed up, he needs to be medicated to even him out, but the kid has entitlement issues.

I hope that it gets a season 3. This is by far the best football doc or drama out there and honestly can't be that expensive to make. And even if Coach Stephens kicks the cameras off campus, it wouldn't be hard to find another of the 700+ JC's willing to have a camera crew on campus.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Love that I made the title. Also Miss Wagner could get it

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


holy moly

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

Kidd-Liggit posted:

Also, Kam may be the only player I've disliked over the 2 seasons.

"I belong at Bama"
"Your height and size belong at Bama. You don't."

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
Had a day to digest this season:

Coach Buddy is gonna be an rear end in a top hat forever. It's amazing how quickly he goes from doing push-ups for saying "rear end" to cussing everyone out again. Even though the real star of the show is gone now (Ms. Wagner), I'd love to see how he does in 2017 after losing his two coordinators and his young hotshot coach. If he can't get good coordinators and loses two or three games, it could be interesting.

Speaking of our favorite academic advisor, I hope she and her company develop a "life skills" course that a bunch of football schools use to get all their freshman players an easy grade and she makes bank. Having a job where she can still help these kids while still keeping them at arm's length can only be good for her. I always wonder what other students there think about all the football players getting walked through classes while showing up late, sleeping, and generally not giving a drat. I'd be shocked if there's more than one full-time academic advisor for the rest of the student population at large.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

skaboomizzy posted:

Had a day to digest this season:

Coach Buddy is gonna be an rear end in a top hat forever. It's amazing how quickly he goes from doing push-ups for saying "rear end" to cussing everyone out again. Even though the real star of the show is gone now (Ms. Wagner), I'd love to see how he does in 2017 after losing his two coordinators and his young hotshot coach. If he can't get good coordinators and loses two or three games, it could be interesting.

Speaking of our favorite academic advisor, I hope she and her company develop a "life skills" course that a bunch of football schools use to get all their freshman players an easy grade and she makes bank. Having a job where she can still help these kids while still keeping them at arm's length can only be good for her. I always wonder what other students there think about all the football players getting walked through classes while showing up late, sleeping, and generally not giving a drat. I'd be shocked if there's more than one full-time academic advisor for the rest of the student population at large.


That would be an interesting storyline, following the stories of students that aren't involved with the football program, seeing how they wound up there and what they think of the hand holding the players get.

Jesus Condumb
Oct 25, 2012

skaboomizzy posted:

Had a day to digest this season:

Coach Buddy is gonna be an rear end in a top hat forever. It's amazing how quickly he goes from doing push-ups for saying "rear end" to cussing everyone out again. Even though the real star of the show is gone now (Ms. Wagner), I'd love to see how he does in 2017 after losing his two coordinators and his young hotshot coach. If he can't get good coordinators and loses two or three games, it could be interesting.

Speaking of our favorite academic advisor, I hope she and her company develop a "life skills" course that a bunch of football schools use to get all their freshman players an easy grade and she makes bank. Having a job where she can still help these kids while still keeping them at arm's length can only be good for her. I always wonder what other students there think about all the football players getting walked through classes while showing up late, sleeping, and generally not giving a drat. I'd be shocked if there's more than one full-time academic advisor for the rest of the student population at large.


Maybe the assistance given to the players was more glaring in this context, but this is how it is done at the majority of power 5 schools. The players that need it are essentially baby sat 24/7. Tutors for every class, handlers escorting them and so forth.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Jesus Condumb posted:

Maybe the assistance given to the players was more glaring in this context, but this is how it is done at the majority of power 5 schools. The players that need it are essentially baby sat 24/7. Tutors for every class, handlers escorting them and so forth.

They mention it for DJ Law wherein he has someone assigned to follow him around and make sure he goes to every class.

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

Jesus Condumb posted:

Maybe the assistance given to the players was more glaring in this context, but this is how it is done at the majority of power 5 schools. The players that need it are essentially baby sat 24/7. Tutors for every class, handlers escorting them and so forth.

Yep. If anything it's even more scaled up the larger the programs get. And of course there will be some students who aren't happy about the treatment the athletes receive but I think the vast majority are fine with it because they know they need the help or simply don't care.

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT
Other sporadic notes: Thank Christ Clint got out of there.

The way Stephens treats his staff is abhorrent. Disagreements are going to happen, but mocking coaches during a game is just so baffling to me. The OC even makes a comment like "last one standing" during an interview and I think it's pretty clear he knows what a no-win situation it is working for him for basically everyone. Also Stephen's mishandling of Isiah Wright bothers me so much. Yeah, the kid wasn't the definition of "first in, last our" and all that other JJ Watt poo poo but you learn how to deal with it. The first year I was at Kent we had to deal with Dri Archer basically deciding when he did and didn't want to practice because his "X" was hurting, you loving deal with it. Stephens doesn't give two shits about his players unless it serves him at the very minute and I love that Chauncey's mom says as much.


Also let's please reflect on the fact that BUDDY STEPHENS TRIED TO EJECT A PLAYER'S MOTHER DURING A GAME FOR MILD HECKLING.

I liked the DC a lot and yeah they got lit up a number of those games but considering his secondary at times couldn't understand a cover two I think he did an admirable job. It was touched on it earlier but Kam is everything I hate about players or people in general. 6 plus feet of entitlement. God bless the DL coach who had to deal with that bullshit. I love that the other DL are rolling their eyes and actively give him poo poo every time they're together.


Seeing Brian George recruiting for Toledo brought the biggest loving smile to my face, he gave me a shot st kent off nothing other than a former player from 15 years ago recommendation. Kent didn't work out for either of us but god drat I love that dude.

Anyway, I watched the second half of the season at like 6 in the morning and haven't slept so I hope my ramblings are coherent

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

Some thoughts on it:

Good to see what happened with Chauncey after he got booted from UGA. His mom seems like a real cool lady. It was hilarious when she called them out on their bullshit and nearly got booted as a result. Of course, she was 100% right.

I know that you probably get your rear end chewed a million times over the course of a season as a coordinator, but I don't know how anyone could go and work for Buddy. He seems to have genuine disdain for pretty much everyone the second something goes the smallest bit sideways and a total lack of empathy.

You know that a lot of players come from pretty tough situations, but I seriously cried during a couple of the descriptions of their lives. I think one thing this show does well is makes you realize that sometimes a problem player has more going on than we could possibly imagine.

I'm glad with what Ms. Wagner is up to and hope she can make an impact in a way that doesn't seem as emotionally draining as working at EMCC did. Also hope she finds ~*~LOVE~*~ since she isn't in Bumfuck, Mississippi anymore.

I'd also like to know why the OC stepped down, or at least whose idea it was. D-line coach was my hero, DC was under-rated by Buddy the whole time.

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

KKKLIP ART posted:


Also hope she finds ~*~LOVE~*~ since she isn't in Bumfuck, Mississippi anymore.


Sup

quote:

I'd also like to know why the OC stepped down, or at least whose idea it was. D-line coach was my hero, DC was under-rated by Buddy the whole time.

I think he had just dealt with all of that bullshit for such a long time that he couldn't do it anymore. Also he definitely crossed a line in that bowl game.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Ep 6: They had me convinced Coahoma was gonna win that game

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Pakled posted:

Ep 6: They had me convinced Coahoma was gonna win that game

Same

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
I'm shocked that Kam got into Pitt. How do they take a guy who every coach they ask will tell you is a selfish, lazy, delusional rear end in a top hat?

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Pakled posted:

I'm shocked that Kam got into Pitt. How do they take a guy who every coach they ask will tell you is a selfish, lazy, delusional rear end in a top hat?

Someone was gonna take a rider on him. He is a solid physical specimen for DL, someone was gonna give him a shot and see if they could mold him into a not-rear end in a top hat.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
Also, Pitt is relatively near his hometown in MD (at least way closer than anyplace in the South) so whatever support system he has should be able to help him. The head coach at Pitt is also a career defensive guy, so maybe they communicate better?

Probably just a coincidence, but it's also fun because Pitt and Penn St just started playing each other again and it's already gotten kind of nasty after just one game. If he sees the field he's gonna try and rip someone's head off.

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

Pakled posted:

I'm shocked that Kam got into Pitt. How do they take a guy who every coach they ask will tell you is a selfish, lazy, delusional rear end in a top hat?

"If we don't take him, someone else will" is the go-to in all of these situations.

buddhanc
Feb 16, 2010

Davern is a good rear end dude and I would love to play for him. Coach Wood too.

I found myself continually talking to the screen and calling Stephens an rear end in a top hat just like last season. How can one person be so hateful, negative, petty, and vindictive? How can you watch yourself act that way and not immediately alter who you are?

Also, gulf coasts kicker who tried that onside signed with Texas :P

E- Dakota Allen seems like a pretty good and genuine dude who hosed up once and is really getting at it now. There's one Tech player I won't hate.

buddhanc fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jul 25, 2017

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

Yeah pretty much every coach with the exception of Stephens seems like a solid guy.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Watching Buddy's descent into madness is great.

I think, though, the problem and why his changes didn't hold was that he focused more on the surface level of his problems than the real issue. He thought his problem was cussing, when in reality his problem was putting the foot down way too much to the point where it became less and less effective. I wonder if Buddy subconsciously does this as a sort of performance for the cameras.

The funny thing is Kam, the one where Buddy really needed to put his foot down got the softie treatment which left the DL coach in the lurch.

I don't think Buddy is going to really change anything unless it starts costing him wins, though.

Pakled posted:

Ep 6: They had me convinced Coahoma was gonna win that game

It's a really nice contrast against Buddy's style, too.

Panzeh fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jul 27, 2017

Jesus Condumb
Oct 25, 2012

skaboomizzy posted:

Also, Pitt is relatively near his hometown in MD (at least way closer than anyplace in the South) so whatever support system he has should be able to help him. The head coach at Pitt is also a career defensive guy, so maybe they communicate better?

Probably just a coincidence, but it's also fun because Pitt and Penn St just started playing each other again and it's already gotten kind of nasty after just one game. If he sees the field he's gonna try and rip someone's head off.


Kam done hosed up already. It is just a summary for driving without a license.

https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJReport.ashx?docketNumber=MJ-05003-TR-0016817-2017

Crotch Bat
Dec 6, 2003

Much like with everything else in life, the Euros seem to have more sense on how to do things in a fun atmosphere without sucking the soul out of the event.
On episode 4 right now with the triple option team and Buddy has nothing to give at halftime beyond threatening them with weekend running and he just screams at the DC like it's not the triple option and can be instantly fixed with quick adjustments.

The Notorious ZSB
Apr 19, 2004

I SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA BE FUCKING SUCK THIS YEAR!!!

This is a good show and I will enjoy more of it even at a different JUCO next time around.

Isaiah Wright got screwed by Buddy, but did very little to help himself with his inability to manage his emotions. His one on one interviews are super enlightening.

Kam I doubt lasts long anywhere.

Stephens tried to "change" but he doesn't really get what the problem that needed changing was (his anger and lack of empathy, he just doesn't really get other people).

Given his attitude I didn't want them to have a chance at a national title, they can complain about getting screwed out of 2 nattys but the team wasn't very cheerable, and hardly seemed like at team. The S1 team felt like it was a lot more tightly knit, this felt way more like the random collection of talent you'd kind have expected to turn out at a place like EMCC. I did like the deeper focus on the players backgrounds this time around S1 felt more about the story of the team, this felt more like the stories of the people on the team. The actual football outcomes I think were downplayed a bit this season, and it wasn't a problem or a bad thing.

weird Asian candy
Aug 23, 2005

Ask me about how my football team's success determines my self worth, and how I wish I lived in New Orleans.
I made it through E5 of this season, and every single episode I am reminded how much of a saint Brittany is. I cannot imagine how frustrating her job is. Some of these guys have legit talent but have the mental capacity of a 12 year old.

pigdog
Apr 23, 2004

by Smythe
3 episodes in, I'm really loving it. The game in the first episode in particular was a nail-biter - really well edited. As a show, I'm digging this way more than either Hard Knocks or All or Nothing.

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

weird Asian candy posted:

I made it through E5 of this season, and every single episode I am reminded how much of a saint Brittany is. I cannot imagine how frustrating her job is. Some of these guys have legit talent but have the mental capacity of a 12 year old.

This goes for the teachers too. They're teaching basic literacy in college. I don't know how anyone could have the patience for that. (And I don't mean that to disparage the kids -- it's a complete failure of the system.)

Unrelated thought (spoilered just in case - 2nd to last episode):
And count me in with the group that was pissed off at Stephens for being so hard on Wright and others while completely babying Kam. Especially with shoving his position coach.

weird Asian candy
Aug 23, 2005

Ask me about how my football team's success determines my self worth, and how I wish I lived in New Orleans.

Dango Bango posted:

This goes for the teachers too. They're teaching basic literacy in college. I don't know how anyone could have the patience for that. (And I don't mean that to disparage the kids -- it's a complete failure of the system.)

Absolutely. Granted, we see a brief glimpse of how these guys are but I can only assume what we are seeing is how they are in class IF they even show up. It was pretty refreshing to see Rivers and Allen take it seriously. You are right though, it is a complete failure and indictment on the system because you know teachers are supposed to look the other way and/or these players are probably getting bailed out each and everyday by someone.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
It sounds like Last Chance U will be at a different JUCO next season: Independence CC in Kansas

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/7/28/16053998/last-chance-u-season-3-school-college-team

Roasted Donut
Aug 24, 2007

NWA WHITE POWERRR!!!!
Marathoned both seasons of this this week. What a wonderful show.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

kayakyakr posted:

It sounds like Last Chance U will be at a different JUCO next season: Independence CC in Kansas

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/7/28/16053998/last-chance-u-season-3-school-college-team

Makes sense, I think they became more and more unwelcome as the drama increased later on in the season and I think too many of the key figures left.

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Scionix
Oct 17, 2009

hoog emm xDDD
buddy stephens is a human toad and i hate him

i dunno how many of yall played high school/college sports but i swear to god blowhard coaches make me so goddamn mad its so clear when they have no idea what to do so they just yell and hope you play better gently caress

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