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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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There's a really recent episode of the Simpsons, from like last year, that was impossibly dated when it came out. Like, it was straight out of the late-90s. Lisa meets a group of rebellious female programmers who teach her that it's okay for girls to like computers, as if that's something that really needed explaining in 2016, and then it follows up this trite revelation from 1994 with a bit of computer illiteracy contemporary to the time when Lisa's project accidentally becomes a sentient AI.

It was so staggeringly anachronistic that I half expected it to become self-aware about it and have like loving Len or the Backstreet Boys guest star.

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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That Eyephone episode really is another one that was groanworthy even when it came out. It aired in 2010, and while frankly it was only three years after the launch of the first iPhone, it was already a little stale to be making jokes about them. The whole plot with the social networks was a huge swing and a miss, too. Facebook and Youtube had both been around for over five years, with Twitter being just past its fourth birthday. And even if you think "well four years isn't a ton of time to properly wear out every joke about something so worldchanging" you kind of have to remember that none of that stuff was even new, it was just the freshest coat of paint over stuff that MySpace, Flash videos, and LiveJournal had been doing for ages. It's very possible to make jokes about social media that feel old enough to drink, even if the current services in wide use today are much younger than that.

Plus, the boil thing is by far the dumbest thing the show has ever had as any part of a plot, which is impressive for a franchise where at one point the entire universe gets married to interdimensional horrorbeast David Cross.


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Guy Mann posted:

Man I wish I lived in your universe where making STEM not be actively antagonistic to girls was solved 20 years ago and not something that is still contentious enough to make the chuds mad when the Simpsons even pays lip service to the concept.

Yeah man I'm totally... shaking with rage here...? Also, what active antagonism are you referring to? I graduated ten years ago from a STEM department that had a nearly 50% split between the sexes, taught primarily by woman professors, and nobody was lovely to the women at all. ...Did you maybe type that from a public computer lab and you needed to make sure a woman walking by knew what a good dude you were or something, because jesus lol

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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"Sister City", the Parks and Recreation episode with the visitors from Venezuela, is REALLY awkward now.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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FactsAreUseless posted:

It was always one of the show's worst episodes, arguably the worst.

Really? It had a few cringeworthy jokes and I'm not a huge Fred Arneson fan but I thought the episode itself was pretty funny compared to a lot of the other early run ones. It's almost worth it for April and Donna taking advantage of the horny officials the whole time alone.


...The issue is how Venezuela is presented as this semi-utopia with tons of government money (at the expense of freedom) and not, y'know, a country in a death spiral towards a civil war due to years of hyperinflation.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Hyrax Attack! posted:

I was wondering about that episode, the forums seem to love Rick & Morty so I watched a few episodes including "Raising Gazprpazorp" and was baffled about why the show was considered genius. As someone else pointed out, this was below average Futurama laziness. Good to know that was an outlier, I'll need to go back and watch a few more.

Let me be another voice adding to the "that episode sucked" chorus, but it's kinda a shame because I think the beginning where Morty is spending all of his time loving that robot and his parents are afraid to comment on it is really, really funny.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Samovar posted:

I honestly can't say I found R&M to be that great, frankly. It seems... very formulaic.

It's kinda hit or miss, with the caveat that the hits usually nail it outta the park and the misses stink like rancid burrito farts.

The dimensional-TV episodes in particular are mostly trash - I get that those are pretty much improv, but a lot of it is just absurd for the sake of it without any humor attached.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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sassassin posted:

How does Hank's loyalty to Buck make Hank's life worse?

well, gosh, do you mean OTHER than the time Buck tried to frame him for murder, or...?

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Barudak posted:

I carpooled to school for a year and the only thing the driver would listen to was Phantom of the Opera, Wicked, and Rent. When Rent is unambiguously the worst of those three boy howdy do you have a poo poo musical.

Somehow I saw another Jonathon Larson work, Tick Tick Boom, in high school. Even as a snot-nosed kid I thought that it was a really banal and petty take on ~~the human condition~~. Larson was a horrible hack and if he hadn't died suddenly the morning of Rent's first preview show I don't think any of us would be saddled with his puerile bullshit for decades to come.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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54 40 or gently caress posted:

Was Chandlers mom mentioned? Because his dad getting a alex change didn't age well at all either

As mentioned, not only did this not actually happen but Chandler's dad was handled pretty well. Chandler joked about how awkward it was growing up but there really wasn't anything mean-spirited about it (at least not compared to the rest of the show).

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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54 40 or gently caress posted:

The second chardeemacdennis episode wasn't nearly as funny. It felt so stale in comparison

Really? I was never a huge fan of the first one so I groaned when the second started, but I feel like the last five or six minutes of the second one turn it around into one of my favorite episodes.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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The new Teen Titans show had a bottle episode where the characters were actually trapped in a giant bottle. It was genuinely really funny.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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oldpainless posted:

I remember Smithers was black at first and then he wasn't.

In the arcade game he's a suicide bomber.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Tiggum posted:

He was. He never gave a single poo poo about his family or he would have just taken the money from his rich friend. It was absolutely 100% all about him from day one and he never changed one bit. That's the thing I don't get about that show - it's supposed to be about how he slowly becomes this terrible person, but he was a loving shithead from episode one and I don't know how that could have been any clearer.

He absolutely gave a poo poo about his family, he just was too prideful to want them to feel beholden to the people he felt stabbed him in the back. The whole show is about how he has so little self pride in the beginning that high schoolers are walking all over him, and by the end he sees himself as some untouchable kingpin even though in reality his whole life is in shambles. One of the last episodes is titled Ozymandias. It's pretty much the opposite of subtle.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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54 40 or gently caress posted:

People also lost their poo poo in Anna gunn after she put on weight in season four, even though she had seriously just had a baby. A lot of the hate towards her was totally misogynistic. But yeah from the start Walt has a HUGE ego, and it's evident that he can't stand the idea of anyone knowing he isn't a genius. Plus going in over a second rewatch you notice a lot more of how he is just so abusive to Jesse off the hop.
Such a good show though, does not belong here.
I don't find Archer aged well, but that's largely due to the fan base over quoting it.

Archer's weird identity crisis-styled prolonged death where they're throwing new ideas at the wall each season to figure out if they can salvage the show somehow is kind of fascinating from a meta-sense. It's not often that you see the spasming death rattle of a popular show drawn out like this.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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well why not posted:

Did it do anything as time-specific as iPhones, though? I remember they covered stuff like global warming, tax rebates and cola in the originals, but nothing that's quite as stuck-in-time as iPhone worship.

The Eyephone one is the only episode I always skip. It's impossibly bad, and even when it came out (in 2010!) it was suuuper dated.

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The sleaziness definitely ramped up after the movies, I remember exactly when it happened - Leila, under duress, has sex with Brannigan to save the world. It's upsetting, weird, cruel and coercive - and not at all wholesome.

I agree with it being offputting but that was kind of the whole point of an episode really obviously mocking uneven religion-based censoring. It's not my favorite episode but the end doesn't just come out of nowhere.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Solice Kirsk posted:

They don't. And the finale is just barely good enough to sit through.

The finale is really good and makes me tear up like a punk.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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The Dalek two-parters are infuriating because they always seem like they're on the cusp of being interesting but never quite get there. And jeez, the voice.


Cybermen on the other hand always strike me as pretty dumb looking and then surprising me with how decent their episodes are. Some of them are kind of chilling.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

No, Sho Aikawa is completely loving nuts even by Japanese standards and has written a bunch of other incredibly bonkers, weirdly right-wing poo poo. The 2003 Fullmetal Alchemist series was his baby too, and that goes in a... relatedly weird direction that I don't wanna spoil for those who haven't seen it (it's a legit cool idea in a vacuum).

I...uh...huh. That really re-contextualizes a lot in a really, really uncomfortable way.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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It's been ages since I've seen it too but IIRC they strongly tie alchemy back to the real-world Holocaust and atomic bomb explosions, and the brothers eventually end up in real-world Nazi Germany.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Straight White Shark posted:

There's basically no way to do justice to the novel's overlapping out of order flashback format in TV, and without it I think you'd be missing out on a decent amount of the novel's impact. You can get away with more in a streaming format and Netflix has been gently pushing the envelope with experimental episodes, but nothing like what Catch-22 would require.

I haven't read the book but this sounds a lot like what Netflix already did for Arrested Development Season 4.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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From the last page, but you guys talking about how you never meet Columbo's wife know she had her own spinoff series, right? You never see her in Columbo itself but she's played by Kate Mulgrew in "Mrs. Columbo". It had two seasons.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

I attempted to make a joke about how much the shows attitudes has flipped and those 2 episodes were the most direct points of comparison because they had the same subject matter. I guess it misfired, sorry. That episode actually is one of the better S1 episodes especially compared to Louise making absolutely sure Hugo understands the great piece of pedophile wordplay her dad cooked up in the pilot.

Uh that pedophile wordplay was done by Louise herself, do you hate the show because you're too stupid to follow the plot? Like, Jesus, what kind of brain injury makes someone so angry about a cartoon they've clearly never even paid attention to?

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

I have no idea how this became a derail and I apologize.

Here I'll help you out: you posted repeatedly about how you didn't like a thing while simultaneously making it clear that you didn't even have the most basic grasp of the plot, let alone any themes or humor.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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MariusLecter posted:

The Soup Nazi did nothing wrong.

Counterpoint: I saw him at a flea market where he had a table where you could pay thirty bucks for a signed soup ladle, and he spent the whole time clearly annoying a retired porn star who had a table next to him.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Solice Kirsk posted:

How many "wanna spoon?" lines did he try out?

I don't know man I tried to stay away from his table, he kept glaring at people when they walked by instead of paying for his overpriced kitchenware. The porn star lady literally moved her seat further and further away from him as time passed, though. I tripped over Dustin Diamond twice that night, he's kinda short and doesn't look where he's going. It was kind of a weird time.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Wheat Loaf posted:

I've noticed that mobile phones seem to be uniquely effective at ageing TV and movies.

I just binged season 1 of True Detective and it loving owned but that was one of my favorite things - it takes place between 1995 and 2012 and they never really shy away from the changing technology changing the way their investigations work while at the same time not really hitting the viewer over the head with it, "HEY HE HAS A CELL PHONE NOW, IF HE HAD THAT IN '95 HE COULD'VE AVOIDED X Y AND Z" style.

Plus it takes place in the middle-of-nowhere rural Louisiana, so even when we start catching up to modern technology there's still tension at the end because they don't have any phone service out at the Resident Evil 7 mansion.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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I love Paris Hilton pretty much based off of her Repo! performance alone. I mean...she plays a spoiled heiress whose fancy plastic-surgery vat-grown face falls off her skull on stage at an important gala. She must have some level of self awareness - she seemed like she was having a ton of fun with the role.

Also Frasier is still a great show. Even its weaker seasons are miles better than a lot of shows. RIP Mahoney :(

e: also, this owns:

Gaunab posted:

The only thing I really know about Paris HIlton is that she got a "micropig" during that time where people were selling potbelly piglets as micropigs and when it grew into a regular sized pig she kept it and had a little mansion built for it.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Beachcomber posted:

If you want to make yourself sick, walk down the Valentine's day aisle at CVS and look at the piles and piles of crap being made from the finite resources of the planet.


Captain Planet hasn't aged well, because it's clear he lost on basically every front. Hatred and capitalism win, forever.

i bet the love life of this guy who came into the old tv thread to bitch about valentines day is really good & healthy lmfao

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Not Operator posted:

Columbo only ever mentions his wife when he's trying to get a suspect to over-share. I always assumed he'd made her up because of how she always coincidentally happened to have a loose interest in something case relevant.

In fact, I absolutely still prefer this interpretation, and as long as I never see Mrs. Columbo the show, I can pretend its true. Columbo is only married to his craft, which is putting rich, murdering smuggos in jail.

(everyone watch more columbo)

He never shows up in Mrs. Columbo, either. One of his green cigars is smoldering in an ashtray, though.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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The laugh track in the first episode or two of HIMYM really is exceptionally grating...or maybe enough of my brain cells committed suicide after two episodes that I no longer consider it strange. But I watched the whole show eventually, and remember stopping after the first episode initially entirely because of the laugh track.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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spog posted:

There is the episode where he realises that he pushes George Michael far too hard when he is Mr Manager of the banana stand.

At that point m I realised that he was pretty screwed up. But the awfulness of all the rest of the family makes it less noticeable in comparison.

Yeah, I don't think he's actually that much worse in the Netflix season, it's just that the format meant he didn't have the rest of his awful family to hide his turdishness behind.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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FactsAreUseless posted:

I hate this show so much. I think the production team is poo poo, and they treat their contestants badly.

Uh, what? You've usually got some really well-reasoned opinions but I'm just not seeing this one, care to elaborate? I mean


Mu Zeta posted:

I read somewhere that sometimes a contestant will screw up their baking and seriously start crying. So the hosts will run up next to them and start swearing so that they can't use the video footage. I'm sure the producers hate that.

at least is true, and I've heard it from several sources. They go out of their way to make sure any contestants having emotional episodes don't get exploited for the sake of the show. That's rad. And at the end of the show you get to see Mary Berry and Paul Hollywood tasting a bunch of delicious looking cakes. When Paul gives someone a handshake over their bake, we fuckin' cheer in the FCB household. I don't know if it's different/worse for the later seasons with the Mighty Boosh guy or whoever.

e: seriously Great British Bake Off reminds me a lot of those kid chef shows where Ramsay is all polite and helpful - it's a competition, and if you gently caress up they'll definitely tell you about it, but it doesn't feel like anyone on the show is out to stomp people's dreams or anything.

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Andy's character oscillates between multiple caricatures of itself over the course of the show, the only constant between them all is that other than his time in Stanford, he is utterly unlikable. Turning him into a frontrunner was insane.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Gaunab posted:

Back in the mid 00s VH1 used to air these shows about how extravagantly celebrities lived and the ridiculous things they bought. I can't see something like that airing today and not causing some riots.

yeah man not like we elected an entire president because he pretends to be rich or anything, we hate rich people, boy oh boy

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Chloe from Smallville apparently was one of the head honchos of a sex slave cult that blackmailed and branded women, so, uh, that's going to be a weird show to go back to.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Convex posted:

I wonder if the episodes are sped up like happened with Seinfeld recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzujLPnLg3s

They're noticeably sped up on nick at nite reruns and it makes it really obvious how weird sitcom joke timing is lol

Netflix should be normal though.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Brother Entropy posted:

were you having fun yet?

yo I got this reference to the excellent show Party Down don't worry

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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GPTribefan posted:

No, that was Dr Greene on ER. Had a brain tumor that was causing cognitive and speech issues. Had it excised on Christmas Eve, and was back to work full time by Valentine’s Day. There was a brief story that questioned his competency, but he took a quick test and it was all good!!

I have an irrational love of ER and will defend it to anyone, but even that seemed a wee bit unrealistic to me.

It happened to Omar Epps' character too but it was parasites in his brain IIRC, and at the end of the episode it showed either his toes were paralyzed or his brain thought his right hand was his left hand or some insane poo poo like that, but he continued working in a full capacity and it was never brought up again.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Saying "lol tobacco doesn't even get you high or hosed up" is the weirdest gooniest thing, I have not seen such a stupid loving post in months if not years

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Everyone always says Dexter started off great and got bad at the end but the very first season is all about Damaged-But-Still-Super-Cool serial killer Dexter fighting his long lost evil twin, it's like an edgy middle schooler's creative writing assignment.

"THEY WERE TRAPPED IN THERE WITH ALL THE BLOOD FOR DAYS!!!!"

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