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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




shame on an IGA posted:

each and every episode of Friends that includes Chandler

Friends in general dated badly. In one episode for example Ross gets an earring and everybody treats it as it's the most radical thing ever.

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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




YeahTubaMike posted:


edit: and that's not even getting into how the show treated trans people

Seth Macfarlane has serious issues with trans people. In Family Guy there's an episode where Quagmire's dad changes sex and Brian has sex with her without knowing it. When he realizes it he then spend the rest of the episode throwing up.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Family Guy had an episode where the running joke was that Quagmire's sister was being abused by her boyfriend.

And then finally there was the serious episode where Quagmire told his sister that she was a bad person because she let herself be abused.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Absurd Alhazred posted:

"You had sex with Giles? You had sex with Giles! On the top of a police car?! TWICE?!"

"We can work out after school, you know, if you're not too busy having sex with my mother!"

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




RagnarokAngel posted:

Seriously thats dumb. The entire point of WotW is that the smallest thing we take for granted brings down a mighty empire. Bioengineering a virus is just "humans rule!"

That's not really the message of that comic. It's more: Humans ready to do some really shady poo poo in order to win a war.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Precambrian posted:

That's actually much worse. That's ladeling some edgy Jack Bauer poo poo over the actual message about colonization and the colonized, like they just had to "toughen up" and "cross ethical lines" to preserve their cultures against invaders.

No. The british government is portrayed as unambiguously bad guys for using bio-weapons and launching them at south London. I mean, the whole comic starts out with the quote "The British Empire has always encountered difficulty in distinguishing between its heroes and its monsters" so I really doubt that Moore is going all ""UK gently caress yeah!

Wheat Loaf posted:

I believe the use of bio-weapons against the Martians is there so Nemo chooses to quit and break up the team.

Not that Nemo is that much better since he's portrayed as considering a massacre of englishmen as "acceptable losses".

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




muscles like this! posted:

He didn't want anything to do with movie adaptations long before Watchmen. IIRC his main issue with adaptations is that people were constantly bugging him about them when he had (and wanted) no involvement. Like he asked for his name to be taken off credits after V for Vendetta when Joel Silver started making claims that he approved of what they were doing with it.

His main issues with the adaptions is that 20th Century Fox was sued for plagiarism and instead of saying that of course Alan Moore's story wasn't plagiarizing anyone they settled the case.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Wheat Loaf posted:

Which one were they sued over?

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. As far as I know it's the only movie based on his works that has his name in the credits.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Absurd Alhazred posted:

I don't think that Gaiman's ever written anything better than Sandman. Sad, really.

That's an insanely high bar to pass though. Even something that's half as good as Sandman should be regarded as a classic.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Krispy Kareem posted:

Skyfall’s another one, but that might slide since it’s a nice counter balance to Bond’s aggressive heterosexuality.

Skyfall heavily implied that Bond is bi.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




FreudianSlippers posted:

As the great poet wrote:
Hard as a boulder
Motha fuckin soulja
Boom bam boom!! It's a stick up
Vice president Dan Quayle eat a dick up
Peep game
What can a nigga do when half the people voted for George W
It's a bitch, gently caress George W. -- can't be true --
I wanna choke him, because he's a snitch
I'm talking about George W. Smith
From city council, he ran in '93
Out in Oakland, you probably didn't hear about him

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




BiggerBoat posted:

I'd say he's moved well beyond "dabbling", dude.

I honestly wouldn't.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Wheat Loaf posted:

One joke from the Simpsons which Josh Weinstein himself called out after the fact as one of their most dated was Bart's new school in Cypress Creek (from "You Only Move Twice") having a web address as proof of how utopian and perfect it was, because that was a complete novelty in 1996.

In Perfect Blue one of the character has a long monologue about how you install and use internet.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




54 40 or gently caress posted:

Plus going in over a second rewatch you notice a lot more of how he is just so abusive to Jesse off the hop.
And yet Jesse was one of the few characters Walter really cared about.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Sunswipe posted:

Part of the problem is something QI acknowledged as well: what was considered a fact at the time a show is made can later be found to be false. I'm sure I remember Penn saying that he'd wanted the last show of the series to be "The Bullshit of Bullshit!" addressing shows where understanding of the topics covered had changed.
That's not really the problem with "Bullshit". Penn even freely admits that even if he had all the new information about stuff like second hand smoking the episode wouldn't be all that different because he still believe that the government shouldn't ban it.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




U-DO Burger posted:

I thought the Futurama movies were okay, but the first few episodes of the new seasons were so bad I stopped watching the show altogether. If it actually gets better then maybe I should watch them some time.

It's a shame because the seasons before it was nearly flawless and the finale was perfection.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




U-DO Burger posted:

The Man in the High Castle is a recent, ongoing show (based on an older book but w/e) but it already aged poorly because the best, most sympathetic character on the show by far is a literal Nazi

Rudolf Höss, the guy who ran Auschwitz, was by all accounts a sympathetic guy and a kind family man.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Calaveron posted:

I thought it was the best, at a time where they either wrote in a maudlin pregnancy or just hid the actress under bulk and props. Daphne got fat because of a feeling of inadequacy vis a vis her relationship with Niles and the show explored that over several episodes until she was sent to a fat spa/shipped off to maternity leave and there were still repercussions after that
In Mad Men everyone believes that Peggy is fat and when it turns out that she was pregnant and gave birth everyone thinks that the reason she "lost weight" is because she went to fat camp.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




BioEnchanted posted:

I liked the episode where the Daleks and Cybermen are initially working together but inevitably betray each other:

"You would declare war on the Cybermen? :geno:"
"THIS IS NOT WAR! THIS IS PEST CONTROL! :byodood:"

"Exterminieren! Exterminieren!:byodood:"

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




FactsAreUseless posted:

SNL's writing is pretty hit and miss, but I'm always impressed at their ability to find talent. Mad TV was the same way, but with an even lower hit:miss ratio.

Signing on Key and Peele is one hell of a hit though.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

This got lost in porn chat but reminded me of a few years ago when Honda used “We Will Become Silhouettes” by The Postal Service. The song is clearly referring to nuclear war.

GE Energy used Sixteen Tons in a commercial...

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Vincent Van Goatse posted:

A commercial full of models shoveling coal in their underwear.

Back in the 19th century coal mines were so hot that the women who worked there were topless. This lead to women being banned from working in coal mines.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




grittyreboot posted:

There's a Twitter account that documents the questionable 2000's fashion choices of Charmed: https://twitter.com/charmedoutfits?s=09

That twitter account made me look up Kaley Cuoco's imdb page and she has never been in anything good. Every thing she has starred in has been trash.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Volcott posted:

Can you think of a show that's actively enriched by canned laughter? I sure can't.

The Wire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDIi0dzmvpE

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




oldpainless posted:

He was also good in 10 Cloverfield Lane but he was so fat at that point it looked like he was ready to have 3 heart attacks at once.



Atmus posted:

Yeah but Stallone also cuts pizza with scissors.

Scissors for cutting pizzas is a thing that exists. I own one.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Davros1 posted:

My favorite Will and Grace story is how John Barrowman, who is gay, was told he was "too straight" to play Will.

Oh, he's extremely straight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1XOfHax6Q8

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Mu Zeta posted:

I'm watching season 4 of The Sopranos and it's funny that people still loved Rudy Giuliani at the time.

Not everybody loved him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SznGSjcNlQ0

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Absurd Alhazred posted:

Citizen Kang aged very, very poorly.

Yeah, americans would never again vote against their best interest.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




SEX BURRITO posted:

The only show I can think of now with super long intros is The Simpsons. But I think that’s because they’ve run out of ideas and need the filler. Saw a newish episode the other day and there was a 5 minute Lord of the Rings parody as a couch gag. Fresh.

I miss sitcoms that told you the premise of the show in the intro. Like The Nanny or Diff’rent Strokes. Every show should have a jaunty little tune that introduces the plot.

Crazy ex-Girlfriend has you covered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzY3EaJTuJk

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




FreudianSlippers posted:


Jesse James has a similar image despite him essentially being a Confederate insurgent refusing to admit the civil war was over.

Train robbers in general was actually considered the good guys because the train companies were run by robber barons.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Inspector Gesicht posted:

Doesn't help that Hyde's actor is a real-life sex-offender.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Inescapable Duck posted:

The more Tolkein-esque elves that briefly appear in the earliest books are handwaved later as half-breeds with delusions of grandeur.

I liked how they portrayed it in the Discworld Noir game. There's a character who's a half-breed who explains that he gets a lot of poo poo for looking like an elf but has none of magic capabilities that elves has.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Mu Zeta posted:

Another thing unusual is that's she's blonde but dyes her hair black. Who does that, especially in Hollywood?

Surprisingly many. Both Angelina Jolie and Sofia Vergara are natural blondes for example.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Inescapable Duck posted:


I wonder what a Simpsons take on Get Out would be.

Terrible?

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Wheat Loaf posted:

One bit that stuck out to me as especially :stonklol: is when they go to question a rapper called "Gots Money" and Stabler takes out dice and says, "I'm gonna roll these dice, which is what your cellmate is gonna do to decide how many times he's gonna rape you!" <rolls dice> "Oh, look, I 'gots' an 11!"

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Koalas March posted:

Oh gosh, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who dislikes April.

Mostly because she was so insecure she basically bullied Ann for 6 seasons.

Ann was a terrible character and complete waste of Rashida Jones.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




artsy fartsy posted:

I love most things about the show, but Jerry drives me nuts. Sometimes he's portrayed as a bumbling idiot and sometimes as a creative and talented genius. So is he misunderstood by everyone or not? Why does he do that pisses people off so much? Leslie seems to actively loathe Jerry.

Don't you mean Terry?

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




plainswalker75 posted:

One of the most heartbreaking moments is in Trouble With Trillions after Homer tries to give her the painting she painted for him as a tax break.



It's not even a good painting..

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




AnoHito posted:

Iirc, it wasn't so much that that they wouldn't have done it as it was that people back then didn't understand diseases well enough to do it.

The black death is thought to have started because mongol warriors threw corpses into a fortress.
In one of the viking sagas it's described how a fortress was won by tossing a corpse down the well of that fortress.
People knew that corpses of people that have died of diseases and dung caused people to be sick even if they didn't know why.

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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




MariusLecter posted:

It's all in the humors; blood, yellow bile, black bile, and phlegm. :eng101:

For a long time people thought that if something smelt bad it spread disease (malaria means bad air). This lead to the sewer in London being renovated because of the "big stink" which was both unbearable and thought to cause people being sick.

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