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Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
USA Today: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...mily/529075001/

quote:

Secret Service out of money to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel, large family

The Secret Service can no longer afford to pay hundreds of agents it needs to carry out an expanded protective mission – in large part due to the sheer size of President Trump's family and efforts necessary to secure their multiple residences up and down the East Coast.

Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex'' Alles, in an interview with USA TODAY, said more than 1,000 agents have already hit the federally mandated caps for salary and overtime allowances that were meant to last the entire year.

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20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017
its ok, hillary's emails can always protect him

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
but remember that time obama went to asia for a day and it cost like billions of dollars to protect him (if you count the cost of our entire military infrastructure as though we had to build it just for that 1 trip). obama :argh:

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
on the bright side its easier than ever to kill him. I mean if you wanted to do that, which you should.

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Power_of_the_glory
Feb 14, 2012
If I was President, one of my priorities would be to avoid pissing off the Secret Service.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Motherfucker posted:

on the bright side its easier than ever to kill him. I mean if you wanted to do that, which you should.

nah, as long as he is alive only the most delusional and dimwitted citizens can support him. if he dies in office he instantly becomes Saint Trump, which in turn enables pence to do whatever he wants with no opposition. i mean, kennedy sucked rear end as president but he got the same treatment even without the benefit of reagan destroying the public mental health system.

Neutrino
Mar 8, 2006

Fallen Rib
Hey Guys I'm hiring. Guaranteed paychecks for all secret service agents!

Neutrino's Outsourced Secret Service and Pizza Delivery

We may pay less than the government but we have perks like free pizza at the end of the day for our agents and guaranteed paychecks! We are sending our proposal for the Presidential Bodyguard contract and hope to be on the low end at $35 billion/year. We should easily be able to lowball the competition.

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy
Even known Trump-lovers Snopes said this was bullshit, and these structural cost issues were known and discussed over Obama, due to the changing demands of the presidency

Wicker Man
Sep 5, 2007

Just like Columbus...


Clapping Larry
Privatize the secret service; I'll pay you to watch my car for $5.00 an hour.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

walgreenslatino posted:

Even known Trump-lovers Snopes said this was bullshit, and these structural cost issues were known and discussed over Obama, due to the changing demands of the presidency

But that's exactly what the article is talking about, the fact they are hitting salary caps that were intended to last the whole year now. Flash-hiring hundreds of new agents in order to not hit their dumb salary caps is probably not going to be easy, considering they all need to be vetted and trained. The only alternative is agents working for free (or congress get in gear and act, but lol about that idea)

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Aug 28, 2017

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy
But the same thing happened under Obama and it can't be blamed on Trump, which is the exact opposite point of the article you posted

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007



Laffo, it's even better because trump has alledegdly spent more on travel and the security concerns thereof in less than a year than barrack obama did on 8 years of office.

But then again, Barrack "Hussein" obama is of course a Kenyan Muslim who probably asked al-qaeda and the taliban to fund his "presidential" visists.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

walgreenslatino posted:

But the same thing happened under Obama and it can't be blamed on Trump, which is the exact opposite point of the article you posted

... because they had to cover the presidential election of 2016. The current problems can absolutely be blamed on Trump and his frequent travelling. But yes, congress and their supremely dumb laws are certainly the cause of this issue.

BTW, didn't realize secret service agents were paid such lovely wages.

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Aug 28, 2017

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
doesnt the government start a new budget year friday

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
looking forward to this being spun as the secret service being unable to keep up with leftist threats without more money

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Fame Douglas posted:

... because they had to cover the presidential election of 2016. The current problems can absolutely be blamed on Trump and his frequent travelling. But yes, congress and their supremely dumb laws are certainly the cause of this issue.

BTW, didn't realize secret service agents were paid such lovely wages.

It's not just that, it's also that several close family members just decided to live away from the white house, which for reasons of security means they also need a full complement of SS agents, rather than (as you'd expect), everyone living in the white house so that the one SS detail could cover everyone.

ambient robot
Apr 23, 2014

by Lowtax
I'll make the Patreon

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

Fame Douglas posted:

... because they had to cover the presidential election of 2016. The current problems can absolutely be blamed on Trump and his frequent travelling. But yes, congress and their supremely dumb laws are certainly the cause of this issue.

BTW, didn't realize secret service agents were paid such lovely wages.

this is the same budgetary year as the election

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

Wicker Man posted:

Privatize the secret service; I'll pay you to watch my car for $5.00 an hour.

Trump should back this, the free market can solve his problems. He can just get his buddy Joe to recommend him some good old boys who can be trusted to treat people properly.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

walgreenslatino posted:

this is the same budgetary year as the election

Yeah, but congress did increase the salary cap to cover election costs. It's even part of your Snopes article. This is all on Trump and his family.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
does this mean we can have LF back

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec
lol, how you gonna run out of money when you work for the treasury

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012

They should start counterfeiting money

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Oh no! Now President Trump has a better chance of being assassinated. So Sad! We...

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lol lowtax is getting another visit

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
Agents spent too much money on hotel room porn

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

Fame Douglas posted:

Yeah, but congress did increase the salary cap to cover election costs. It's even part of your Snopes article. This is all on Trump and his family.

but... they went over last fiscal year too. the fiscal year in which there was not an election. you're making two contradictory arguments at once

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
ugh christ is this guy another trumpeteer

deported to Canada
Jun 1, 2006

This is confusing, when it comes to Trump which SS are we talking about?

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

walgreenslatino posted:

but... they went over last fiscal year too. the fiscal year in which there was not an election. you're making two contradictory arguments at once

Where are you gettting that from? Your Snopes article is talking about last calendar year (2016), not fiscal year. So it seems the Trumps are culpabe after all.

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

deported to Canada posted:

This is confusing, when it comes to Trump which SS are we talking about?

This joke would only work if the secret service wasn't mentioned by name a bunch of times in the article and title. Sorry guy, but it's quite obvious which SS he is talking about because his neo-nazis never had money in the first place.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

Blast of Confetti posted:

lol lowtax is getting another visit

if I were lowtax I would just be like "goddamn it" and just close down GBS or maybe the entirety of the SA forums

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Gammatron 64 posted:

if I were lowtax I would just be like "goddamn it" and just close down GBS or maybe the entirety of the SA forums

the SS can't afford the visit, so they're just gonna wait the three months it's gonna take for lowtax to run out of money and shut the forums down forever.

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

Fame Douglas posted:

Where are you gettting that from? Your Snopes article is talking about last calendar year (2016), not fiscal year. So it seems the Trumps are culpabe after all.

they were talking about the united states federal budgetary year which ended in 2016, before the election. The cap was raised for that budget year to cover increased expenditures. Now this same thing will have to happen again, for the subsequent united states federal budgetary year which ends in like a month

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

walgreenslatino posted:

they were talking about the united states federal budgetary year which ended in 2016, before the election. The cap was raised for that budget year to cover increased expenditures. Now this same thing will have to happen again, for the subsequent united states federal budgetary year which ends in like a month

You realize presidential candidates get a secret service detail, right?

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

You realize presidential candidates get a secret service detail, right?

yes obviously, I think that's part of the reason both budgetary years have been so expensive, in addition to changing demands of the modern presidency and increased number of threats against those two presidents' lives

The whole point is that its stupid and untrue to say "Trump bankrupted the secret service"

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

walgreenslatino posted:

The whole point is that its stupid and untrue to say "Trump bankrupted the secret service"

But it's very true.

Trump towers was charging the SS a ridiculous rate for the floor below trumps apartment in trump towers during the election and when he won, trump towers tried to renegotiate for a higher rate but the SS couldn't afford it so they moved to a mobile command centre(iirc) on the street.

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

the SS can't afford the visit, so they're just gonna wait the three months it's gonna take for lowtax to run out of money and shut the forums down forever.

strnogly worded email

hamtaro
Oct 7, 2008

walgreenslatino posted:

yes obviously, I think that's part of the reason both budgetary years have been so expensive, in addition to changing demands of the modern presidency and increased number of threats against those two presidents' lives

The whole point is that its stupid and untrue to say "Trump bankrupted the secret service"

Except the federal government has accountants that projected and adjusted budgetary requests. The US Secret Service saw a $300 million increase in its budget between FY2015 and FY2016. They corrected for projected increases in expenses, but for some reason, they ran out of money anyway. Could it be related to prolonged details at expensive Trump properties?

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gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

Trump towers was charging the SS a ridiculous rate for the floor below trumps apartment in trump towers during the election and when he won, trump towers tried to renegotiate for a higher rate but the SS couldn't afford it so they moved to a mobile command centre(iirc) on the street.
trump billing the ss at highest rate possible while theyre responsible for protecting his life. i like this

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