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Who is the best one?
This one?
This one.
This one!
Swords are tools for killing Ms Kaoru
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Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
I mean the max fine is 1 million yen.

He probably snitched on the sellers and creators. Which I imagine the police care more about than those buying at this point in the laws lifecycle.

The law is only a couple of years old.

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tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN
can't and wont read this anymore despite loving it.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
:same:

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

GimmickMan
Dec 27, 2011

It's unlikely to continue anyway. Wasn't Shueisha pulling out tomes currently in stores?

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.

Pastrymancy
Feb 20, 2011

11:13: Despite Gio Gonzalez warning, "Never mix your sparkling juices," Bryce Harper opens another bottle of sparkling grape and mixes it with sparkling cider.

1:07: Harper walks to the 7-11 and orders an all-syrup Slurpee.

1:10-3:05: Harper has no recollection of this time. Aliens?

Caros
May 14, 2008

AndwhatIseeisme posted:

If anyone is curious about what possessing hundreds of child porn pictures nets you in Japan, the answer is apparently a bit shy of 2 grand.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=https://www.jiji.com/jc/article%3Fk%3D2018022700954%26g%3Dsoc&prev=search

On the bright side, Rurouni Kenshin might be coming back I guess? :shrug:

No, it won't. Shuesha doesn't want to poke that bear, and I can hardly blame them.

That said, the idea that he rolled on people to get a $2,000 fine is, sadly, not all that likely. Possession of Child Pornography was legal in Japan up until 2014, with production legal as recently as 1999. From what I've read on this specific case, it looks like his stash of pornography (on DVD, because sure, why not) was pretty much all pre-2014, so was all technically legal for him to own when he obtained it, which influenced the court's decision.

Mind you, the maximum penalty he could have recieved was $10,000 fine and one year in jail.

Just in case anyone wondered whether Japan was really hosed up when it comes to their treatment of sex crimes against children.

Edit: If you feel like beign disgusted, here is a 'fun' article on the subject. Apparently as recently as 2016 you could still buy suspected child porn in Akihabara because even law enforcement don't really give a poo poo.

Caros fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Mar 1, 2018

GimmickMan
Dec 27, 2011

Well this is depressing.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Manatee Cannon posted:

idk what to say to that other than it sucks and I'm disappointed. now that's gonna be associated with kenshin and busou renkin forever whenever I think about them

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

god drat it busou renkin was so good, and it's bad now

i have to deal with that and it's loving me up

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Yeah they are still translating Embalming and thats kinda giving me a sour taste in my mouth when I read it

AndwhatIseeisme
Mar 30, 2010

Being alive is pretty much a constant stream of embarrassment.
Fun Shoe
The Kyoto arc of Kenshin is probably in my top 5 best shonen arcs ever, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to read it again without a little voice in the back of my head reminding me that Misao is totally his fantasy underage waifu insert. That relationship between her and Aoshi is even creepier now, knowing what we do.

gently caress, Kenshin is such a good manga that I'll never be able to fully enjoy again.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Yinlock posted:

god drat it busou renkin was so good, and it's bad now

i have to deal with that and it's loving me up

Eh I don't think anything could ever make Papillon bad even his own lovely creator.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

tbp posted:

can't and wont read this anymore despite loving it.

What if someone posts summaries of any new chapters in the thread?

symphoniccacophony
Mar 20, 2009

AndwhatIseeisme posted:

The Kyoto arc of Kenshin is probably in my top 5 best shonen arcs ever, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to read it again without a little voice in the back of my head reminding me that Misao is totally his fantasy underage waifu insert. That relationship between her and Aoshi is even creepier now, knowing what we do.

gently caress, Kenshin is such a good manga that I'll never be able to fully enjoy again.

I don't know. Speaking strictly from the manga as I didn't watch the anime. I always thought that Misao and Aoshi are just playing the age old trope of the impulsive teenage girl with a crash on the too-cool-for-school older guy that's a staple for every other shoujo manga from that period. While sometimes the boy and girl do get together, I think this is the type where Aoshi treats her like a little sister, her crash is tolerated, but unrequited. All fitting in with his cool guy image.

Aoshi has a cool design, but his entire purpose in the series is to be a hurdle to jump over. After his first big battle with Kenshin, I thought he basically stopped having any character growth or even a personality, and I feel like I can hear Watsuki grinding his gear to think up a way to make Aoshi come back for the Kyoto chapter because he loved the character so much.

Not to excuse Watsuki for anything, but once you are aware of what he's done, it's hard not see the series through colored lenses and start cherry picking evidences and making connections that really didn't exist.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

symphoniccacophony posted:

I don't know. Speaking strictly from the manga as I didn't watch the anime. I always thought that Misao and Aoshi are just playing the age old trope of the impulsive teenage girl with a crash on the too-cool-for-school older guy that's a staple for every other shoujo manga from that period. While sometimes the boy and girl do get together, I think this is the type where Aoshi treats her like a little sister, her crash is tolerated, but unrequited. All fitting in with his cool guy image.

Aoshi has a cool design, but his entire purpose in the series is to be a hurdle to jump over. After his first big battle with Kenshin, I thought he basically stopped having any character growth or even a personality, and I feel like I can hear Watsuki grinding his gear to think up a way to make Aoshi come back for the Kyoto chapter because he loved the character so much.

Not to excuse Watsuki for anything, but once you are aware of what he's done, it's hard not see the series through colored lenses and start cherry picking evidences and making connections that really didn't exist.

On the other hand...

Kenshin wiki article on Misao posted:

While Misao is 16, Watsuki wanted her to appear like a 13-year-old. He argued with his editors about the inclusion of Misao’s braid ...The author admitted that he enjoyed drawing Misao and she was one of his favourite characters.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
I remember reading somewhere that he invented Misao because he wanted a Yahiko/Kaoru-esque combo with Kenshin while he was traveling to Kyoto.

symphoniccacophony
Mar 20, 2009
I didn't know that Misao was supposed to be even younger, I guess we should thank the editor for keeping Watsuki in check here. But Misao was an important character in Kyoto arc, aside from bringing Aoshi back into the plot, she makes good comedic duo with Yahiko and the only female character on Kenshin's side for a while until Kaoru shows up much later.

I still believe that Kenshin can be evaluated independently from the action of its creator. I didn't think the manga has a creepy vibe toward the minor characters when I first read it many years ago. Perhaps I will see a creepy undertone thanks to what we now know about Watsuki, but as a whole it's neither fanservice heavy nor written in ways to emphasize the creep factor.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
It's weird cause the manga had some critical views towards the path that Japan went down on, as mentioned at the end of the Kyoto arc (about Shishio's vision being enacted by the government itself, in a blatant rejection of Kenshin's hopes for the future), which is something that never really occurred to me when I first read it in middle school but came to understand better. After all, one of the results of that path was Japan invading my country.

So I found it surprising to me that a mainstream shounen manga would be willing to go into a topic like that.

So there is a part of me that would like to distinguish between the author and the work, but it's still hard as hell to do so.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

VJeff posted:

Eh I don't think anything could ever make Papillon bad even his own lovely creator.

no sorry, he's bad now

this is the horrible reality we live in

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


just came into this thread like "oh yeah i remember this was coming back, i loved this show as a kid, maybe my girlfriend would like the new one too!"

god damnit japan

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

nopantsjack posted:

just came into this thread like "oh yeah i remember this was coming back, i loved this show as a kid, maybe my girlfriend would like the new one too!"

god damnit japan

:smith::hf::smith:

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
Hey everyone, turns out we're still living in 2018 which means nothing matters anymore!

quote:

Rurouni Kenshin: Hokkaido Arc Manga Resumes in June

Hooray!!!!

e: Not even a goddamn year are you loving kidding me

Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Apr 23, 2018

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
Nope, not gonna read it, as much as I would like to. I'm not going to support someone who's been literally busted for child porn.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
wait, like, by the same dude? not someone picking up the pieces and resuming, but the actual pedophile author? how the gently caress

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008

Captain Invictus posted:

wait, like, by the same dude? not someone picking up the pieces and resuming, but the actual pedophile author? how the gently caress

:japan:

Maybe if it was his wife or someone else sifting through the notes but I can't in good conscience follow it after what the guy himself has done

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Captain Invictus posted:

wait, like, by the same dude? not someone picking up the pieces and resuming, but the actual pedophile author? how the gently caress

He had to pay ~$2000 for possession.
Worst one can get is 1 year in prison and $10000.

The Toriko author returned after being caught doing highschool girls.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-23/rurouni-kenshin-hokkaido-arc-manga-resumes-in-june/.130726

Confirmed. It was metaphorically a slap in the wrist. Jesus poo poo.

:cripes:

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Allegedly he plea bargained down to that number by giving names of distributors

Allegedly

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
lol, nothing matters

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Kenshin is Back Baby!

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Kurtofan posted:

Kenshin is Back Baby!

The phrasing is more awkward now.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Blockhouse posted:


e: Not even a goddamn year are you loving kidding me

lol that's less than most hxh hiatuses

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I would love to see what the general Japanese fanbase reaction to this poo poo is. Are people saying they'll boycott the magazine he's part of, that sort of thing, or are they just kinda going with it too?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Captain Invictus posted:

I would love to see what the general Japanese fanbase reaction to this poo poo is. Are people saying they'll boycott the magazine he's part of, that sort of thing, or are they just kinda going with it too?

from what I read, the fanbase wanted him back

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Captain Invictus posted:

I would love to see what the general Japanese fanbase reaction to this poo poo is. Are people saying they'll boycott the magazine he's part of, that sort of thing, or are they just kinda going with it too?

Having a quick look through aggregate sites gave me comments like Ruloli Kenshin, "that's cheap" and "Brand him with a Lolicon mark."

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
lol, anyone else remember that guy whose av for a long time was "more people should read busou renkin"

Caros
May 14, 2008

Captain Invictus posted:

I would love to see what the general Japanese fanbase reaction to this poo poo is. Are people saying they'll boycott the magazine he's part of, that sort of thing, or are they just kinda going with it too?

Japan didn't criminalize possession of child pornography until 2014. You can still find 'jk' cafes in major public areas where grown men pay to hang out with underage girls. Sad to say, but culturally they don't really give a gently caress.

As far as people saying that he 'flipped' I don't really buy it. Japanese had a huge crackdown last year after one of the major distributors got caught with an email list, which is probably part of how he got caught, though I've also read conflicting reports that his material was mostly leftover stuff from pre-2014 which doesn't make it better at all, but does lessen the severity of his punishment.

Of course, the same translated article that mentions the 'leftover' stuff also points out that fifteen police officers were arrested last year under similar crimes and only five actually had been fired. So... Japan.

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Simply incredible.

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