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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Hail Satan!

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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

stone cold posted:

you forgot something about lgbq people

Fixed.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

empty whippet box posted:

Eyyyyy it's uspol, I needed another place to shitpost about politics that I barely understand and have only a fleeting connection to in my daily life.

Same my man.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Mister Adequate posted:

now these goons are goons after my own heart.

These piss threads help me cope with our gloriously lovely universe.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

It's 9/11 MDT.


:911: NEVER FORGET :911:

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

John Henry Miller posted:

Hillary continues to attack Bernie Sanders in her book. The democrat party is no place for workers. Trump is the future.

As a regdate Nov 17' I have only one thing to say about Hillary: gently caress off back to charity work.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

I hate you all.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Tammy Duckworth 2020/24/28 whatever the gently caress one she wants.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

The Muppets On PCP posted:

gerrymandering is a huge problem but it's not insurmountable

what should be more worrying is over 40% of state legislative races were unopposed last year

Voter suppressions a worse problem.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

I drink coors light and I vote the D.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Calibanibal posted:

its too bad the cold war/red scare stripped us of an entire generation of public intellectuals, imho

They were boomers though so it's probably a good thing.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Moktaro posted:

Meanwhile in Colorado Springs (oh god kill me) we get to vote on....a proposal to assess a floodwater fee or somesuch. :effort:

Colorado Springs is basically the AFA and a bunch of mega churches, right?

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

empty whippet box posted:

this belongs here more than it belongs in trump thread


official ted cruz twitter liked a porno video on twitter

He's studying the art of boning to better mimick humanity.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

This liberals content with tying it to inflation.

gently caress being content $21s the base talking points now you fuckers.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

empty whippet box posted:

gently caress stopping at the minimum wage, we need a maximum income limit too.

Fiscal policy not being zero sum goes both ways.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:


Weird question, how would you feel about subsided minimum wage. Give some wage assistance to small companies that aren't publicly owned. If you're big enough to be public you can pay the God drat minimum on your own.

Thoughts?

I'd be ok with truly small businesses getting wage support if they need it per application process like any other program. gently caress franchises though.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

WrenP-Complete posted:

Is this going to be very dramatic tomorrow?

loving hope it is.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016


USPol: I believe we can come together. We have to.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Paracaidas posted:

I missed this when it came out of committee in July, but NYMag has my back with a post today... a nice reminder of :siren:gently caress PAUL RYAN:siren:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/09/the-gop-wants-the-irs-to-crack-down-on-the-working-poor.html

The GOP proposes to improve the deficit by decreasing "improper" EITC payouts by requiring verification of all income before benefits go out. To accomplish 28m miniaudits, the understaffed IRS would pretty well have to cut back on rich people's enforcement (most figures say that $1 in enforcement on that top end brings $6 in recovered revenues). Overpayment on the EITC on the other hand, averages a couple hundred per erroneous report.

gently caress with the poor so that the rich can get a free pass and the government is drained of revenues. Sounds about right.

PaulRyan.txt

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

I don't reflexively dismiss them, but I see your point. I don't want to come across like one of the milquetoast, handwringing types that these threads hate so much. But I question the wisdom of going after a founding father with the same fury as someone like Lee. A confederate general is one thing. It's definitely past time that we moved on from the Civil War and Jim Crow. Efforts like these, though, are going to look exactly like the politically correct history whitewashing that many people are wary of.

We should absolutely have conversations about Jefferson and whether he was a hypocrite. BLM and its allies should continue with their general activities, but they need to be more smart/savvy about it. Going out and covering a Jefferson statue with a shroud is just going to repel people rather than bringing them into having a conversation.

How white are you?

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

I see everyone's point, but consider this: we're all generally on the same page here. This is an anti-Trump, anti-confederate, somewhat radical (not meant in a bad way) group here. We see someone covering a Jefferson monument with a shroud and think "OK, great. Jefferson was a rapist and a slaveholder. gently caress him".

The question in my mind is how something like this will play in so-called "middle America". I'm thinking of people who aren't necessarily Trump supporters, but they agree with Blue Lives Matter and the idea that antifa is a hate group in the same vein as the alt-right. I know people like this. Many of them are friends of mine on Facebook. I'm not saying that they're right, or that their views should necessarily be respected. But if they don't know much about BLM to begin with, and this is what they see happening, is it going to spark a conversation, or a backlash?

I totally understand where BLM is coming from. I agree with what they're trying to do. I don't think they have to spare "middle America's" feelings, but they should tread carefully. What may seem self-evident to us may not "play in Peoria", as it were.

You.

Will.

Not.

Win.

Over.

Those.

Assholes.

Ok snark aside: the points to start a conversation. Anyone who's turned off by even that will not be convinced of anything using any rhetoric what so ever.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

RuanGacho posted:

Only actual, notified Nazis are probably beyond hope but we have to shift the conversation, and keep moving it so they can't settle into what's comfortable. Remember the enemy is literally reactionary thought and they will exhaust if they have to apply intellectual rigor, that is why they keep trying to hit the same points, the same cow bell over and over for 30 years. That is our glorious strength that we have over our opponents, we have no need to protect anything that isn't worth keeping.

This is a less dumb way of putting my thoughts on the matter.

Also do what you can to stamp out indifference.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Harton posted:

loving A right. This poo poo needs to be brought into the light and talked about at every opportunity. As a douchebag white dude myself it took a lot longer than it should have to realize how truly hosed up everything is. If we keep pandering to scumbags we'll never win over the people who can be convinced. It's gotta be loud and in their loving faces until they are forced to pick a side. Some of these people can be won over, but it's gotta be dragged out of them. Being civil isn't gonna cut it, get in people's faces and shout it.

It's ok us white guys need to be knocked down a few pegs. Embrace being wrong because being wrongs totally ok here.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

gently caress you all here too.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Condiv posted:

that's terrible, hope they pull through

Ones dead reportedly.

Happy Wednesday America!

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

shrike82 posted:

Or could it be that the same dozen or so posters from the Dem waste thread want to perpetually relitigate the 2016 Primaries?

Take a hint from Bernie himself and focus on the future instead of getting into a paroxysm of rage whenever Abuela does literally anything?

They must be right for their leftist street cred.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Jazerus posted:

meth is so 2015

Meths still pretty popular.

I wouldn't mind changing gun control to gun safety but I'm a rural hick who likes shooting stuff.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Yea that owns btw, it does increase the risk and cost of franchising, but meh what are you going to do?

Make more delicious chicken?

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

I personal favorite was Blaine Gabbert. Not gabbard but close enough imo.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

empty whippet box posted:

Yeah, gently caress every good thing he ever did since then, gently caress him, I hope he rots in hell because he wasn't an extreme leftist when he was in office, gently caress him aaaaaaaaah what a loving piece of poo poo am I right my dude?

Same.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Relentlessboredomm posted:

Is there a major American city not in the midst of a housing crisis?

Detroit?

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Chilichimp posted:

What? They have a housing crisis, it's that they've got too drat many and neighborhoods are being reclaimed by the forest.

It was a joke about Detroit.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Boise metro areas about 500k. 45min commutes about as long as it gets while still living in a city.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Relentlessboredomm posted:

1. that list has Washington Dc on it so it's completely invalid.

2. I said *major* American city. We can quibble about that or not.


It was a mildly hyperbolic comment about the sheer unaffordability of much of the places in this country with actual decent jobs.


BTW, anyone who wants a laugh, look up that 25 most affordable metro areas list. loving Buffalo and Syracuse are in the top 10. :lol:

Define your major then. I'd even accept "a professional sports team in big 4."

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Mister Adequate posted:

The Mormons I know from non-SLC Utah are either crazy zealots who seem eager to fit every stereotype, or the most r/atheism haters of religion in general and Mormonism in particular on the planet. The Mormons I know from SLC and outside the state are almost entirely extremely cool, friendly, and serious about the "be good to each other" stuff, or they're chill Jack Mormons.

What I'm saying is yeah avoid Utah outside SLC, also flying through SLC is weird as hell because for someone like me from England the landscape is straight-up alien.

Count south east Idaho as Utah here for consistency.

Boise's sort of the same way. The city itself is fairly liberal but turns beet red outside it. Except guns we loving love shooting stuff.

Please move here and spread your liberal/leftist agenda far and wide.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

logosanatic posted:

theres no situation where a homeless person does anything but destroy a property and spread feces all over the walls. they are homeless for a reason. the few times ive sat down with homeless people to feed them and talked to them about helping them turn their life around ive anecdotally learned that its all substance abuse based. and theyre ok enough with their life. they have stolen cell phones they can connect to burger king wifi and scrounge together some food and money for drugs. sometimes the woman talk about wantint different life but cant kick the habit. the men just dont care

im down with a program that gives homeless people care though.

Go gently caress yourself.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016


gently caress this guy too.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Calibanibal posted:

Kill the rich and let hobos take up in their tacky mansions.

Only if the mcmansion blogger takes off houses that homeless take possession of.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Office Pig posted:

Is it just me or is Saint Louis on fire, and rightly so?

gently caress the cards.

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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

PerniciousKnid posted:

Pardon my ignorance, but what is this and should I actually do it?


Excuse me, the Cardinals officially ended racism in St. Louis in 1964.

Hash tag best fans St Louis.

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