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Artelier posted:I'm not too familiar with chess openings but have read up a little on the Wiki, and I think moving e2-e4 is a pretty common and strong move.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I get notation and how the pieces move but I'm not really able to see more than two moves in advance. I don't really get how advantage works - I can get the idea of piece values and do the math on that (black lost their queen for a pawn? yeah, no poo poo white's ahead!) but I have no clue how people can look at a board with roughly even material and clearly say that one side is winning. (Side note: Mentors / Covski, this would be a good informatory post at some point, though it might make more sense later in the game when there's actual examples to point to) I went to chess club in high school but more as a social thing to do and was never very good at it. And I haven't played or even really thought about chess prior to this thread in like 15 years.
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Sep 13, 2017 11:53
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Since there's a check involved, this can be described pretty succinctly. Black's only possible responses are: 1.) Block check with the queen (Qd8-d7). This is obviously dumb since we'd gladly trade our bishop for the Queen. They won't do this. 2.) Block with the knight (Nb8 to either d7 or c6). Either of these stops the check and pins their knight for a while, but doesn't actively threaten our bishop. We could respond to this by taking our knight in trade for the bishop, but I don't see any particular reason to do so since our bishop isn't in immediate danger. So instead we should probably respond with something else - moving up something (pawns? knight?) to support the attack perhaps? 3.) Bc8-d7 - I think this is probably the best option for them since it stops the check and also threatens our bishop. Our response to this could either be to trade bishops OR move a piece to defend the bishop (Nb3-c5 or moving either the a or c pawns forward two spaces). The knight seems to be the best response to me since the trade seems kinda pointless (it's even by piece values, but our bishop is actually doing something productive while theirs isn't) and moving the pawns limits our bishop's maneuverability. MagusofStars fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Sep 17, 2017 |
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Sep 17, 2017 20:12
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LambdaZero posted:Which piece are you talking about there? I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding or if that was a typo.
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Sep 17, 2017 22:27
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Jumping on the d2-d4 train for the reasons laid out by McP and Decoy.
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Sep 19, 2017 03:32
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Qd1-Qdx4. Only thing to watch here is that it pseudo pins* our bishop at b5 since making any move with the bishop except taking the knight means they immediately use the knight to take our queen with Nc6-Nxd4. Not an issue as long as we're paying attention but if we forget about it, that could screw us hard down the line. Just something to keep in the back of our collective hive mind. *I don't know if there's actually a term for this situation. I don't think it's a "true" pin per se because we can easily get out of it on our own by just taking the knight, but the bishop isn't really free to move either. MagusofStars fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Sep 21, 2017 03:33
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Okay, so we basically have two (real) options and one awful dumb one: 1.) Take the knight with our bishop, Bb5xc6. Presumably, they will immediately take our bishop with something else, so this is basically just trading pieces. 2.) Move the queen somewhere. 3.) Do something totally unrelated and watch our queen die. This seems really stupid to me, unless someone can make a really great case for why. I don't honestly love any of the options, but I'm guessing #1 is probably best. Moving the queen will at best cost us some tempo and probably get her trapped pretty quickly. So I think taking the knight will free up the board a little and get some more options. MagusofStars fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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I’m on my phone and can’t quote well, but Yorkshire’s analysis seems solid to me as it seems castling just gets us into an endless and unproductive Queen runaround. Bc1-g5.
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