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H.P. Hovercraft posted:is that ed norton its a brandon bird print so ofc
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Dec 14, 2017 19:05
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watch the death of the US internet live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d_202l55LU
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Dec 14, 2017 19:06
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Tatsujin posted:its a brandon bird print so ofc oooooooooooooooooh i should've guessed
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Dec 14, 2017 19:08
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Anaconda Rifle posted:watch the death of the US internet live! RIP net neutrality
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Dec 14, 2017 19:14
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Anaconda Rifle posted:RIP net neutrality *quietly spins up VM on cloud provider in europe and sets up VPN tunnel to it*
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Dec 14, 2017 19:26
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Tatsujin posted:*quietly spins up VM on cloud provider in europe and sets up VPN tunnel to it* somehow the ISPs will charge extra for all tunneled traffic
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Dec 14, 2017 19:33
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Anaconda Rifle posted:somehow the ISPs will charge extra for all tunneled traffic non-interpretable traffic not destined for a registered ecommerce site will require a business class plan
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Dec 14, 2017 19:34
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Tatsujin posted:*quietly spins up VM on cloud provider in europe and sets up VPN tunnel to it* seems like a waste of money when you can spin up a vm in a US cloud provider and get all the benefits of their inter-ISP agreements.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:35
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yeah the thing holding me back was AWS charging for bandwidth but if it means I can use a non-poo poo internet its a price im willing to pay
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Dec 14, 2017 19:38
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net neut going away isn't going to change anything with your internet aside from maybe its a little faster from other networks/content providers paying for upgrades.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:46
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Shaggar was r[PLEASE PAY $1.99 TO VIEW ENTIRE POST]
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Dec 14, 2017 19:49
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Shaggar posted:net neut going away isn't going to change anything with your internet aside from maybe its a little faster from other networks/content providers paying for upgrades.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:49
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its how its functioned in the us prior to 2 years ago.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:50
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let's facetime on my at&t iphone and we can talk about it
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Dec 14, 2017 19:52
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also Portugal is part of the EU so it already has net neut
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Dec 14, 2017 19:56
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Tatsujin posted:*quietly spins up VM on cloud provider in europe and sets up VPN tunnel to it* heres your bill code:
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Dec 14, 2017 19:58
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net neutrality doesnt mandate a price on internet access, they could already charge $250 if they wanted
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Dec 14, 2017 20:02
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FMguru posted:in the late 1970s there was a big nostalgia for the largely-imagined good old days of the 1950s, as seen with things like grease and happy days what would “that 90s show” look like? would it just be saved by the bell
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Dec 14, 2017 20:04
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echinopsis posted:what would “that 90s show” look like? daria
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haveblue posted:daria
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Dec 14, 2017 20:08
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ISPs won't change anything directly affecting users because they're all publicly-traded companies, and the PR blowback would inevitably cost them money/investors (at least in the short-term). they'll go for the "paid-prioritization" route that they're already saying they want to do using QoS rules that companies can pay for to get an edge. Netflix pays for prioritization, for example, so during the 7-10pm window of time where something like 75% of all consumer internet traffic in the US is web streaming, Netflix gets an edge over their competitors like Hulu, which will potentially load slower and seem like a shittier service unless they pay for prioritization as well. of course, then netflix and hulu and etc. will charge the end-users more to make up for the cost of prioritization. consumers pay for it in the end.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:09
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isps used to be dumb pipes but now their are smart pipes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ
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Dec 14, 2017 20:13
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pram posted:net neutrality doesnt mandate a price on internet access, they could already charge $250 if they wanted yes but now they can nickel and dime you in ways they couldn't before, but who knows how things will actually turn out
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Dec 14, 2017 20:13
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if isps start nickel and dimeing content providers they'll be forced to merge to offset the costs and i'm all for ending the current trend of content being balkanized into a bazillion individual services
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Dec 14, 2017 20:16
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Repealing net neutrality is anti-innovation. In an alternate past Yahoo pays ISPs for prioritization so Google is never able to get off the ground even though they have the better search algorithm. Really, it's extortion. It's the same business model as a highwayman.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:17
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Perplx posted:yes but now they can nickel and dime you in ways they couldn't before, but who knows how things will actually turn out doubt it also i dont care if google has to pay more money
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Dec 14, 2017 20:17
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MSPain posted:Really, it's extortion. It's the same business model as a highwayman. this is 100% true, though I think a more accurate metaphor is paying protection to the mob
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Dec 14, 2017 20:18
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pram posted:doubt it also i dont care if google has to pay more money That argument wasn't about the Google of today you dummy, it's about the power large corporations now have to stymie any new internet services that could pose a threat to the existing monoliths. There is a long and storied history of capital undercutting innovation of this kind, and now our corporate overlords have yet another tool to employ to maintain their economic hegemony at our expense.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:21
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you realize most of that negotiation, for bandwidth and qos, goes on with their tier 1 carriers and wouldnt be MOM&POP NETFLIX literally negotiating with verizon
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Dec 14, 2017 20:24
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do people really think the internet goes from youtube -> their cable modem with nothing in between
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Dec 14, 2017 20:26
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funy nutrality pics thread 
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Dec 14, 2017 20:27
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pram posted:you realize most of that negotiation, for bandwidth and qos, goes on with their tier 1 carriers and wouldnt be MOM&POP NETFLIX literally negotiating with verizon Is the idea of top tier tech companies having leverage with carriers or gaining it through corporate consolidation that improbable to you?
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Dec 14, 2017 20:27
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pram posted:do people really think the internet goes from youtube -> their cable modem with nothing in between but it does. YouTube now has CDN points in most COs. when you connect to youtube you are connecting to a magical box inside comcast or verizon's central office.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:27
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Suspicious Dish posted:but it does. YouTube now has CDN points in most COs. when you connect to youtube you are connecting to a magical box inside comcast or verizon's central office. sounds very un-neutral, how did this happen
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Dec 14, 2017 20:28
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ISPs have already tried to pull poo poo very similar to what I described https://www.wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality/
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Dec 14, 2017 20:29
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pram posted:sounds very un-neutral, how did this happen the fcc 2015 open internet order explicitly says it doesn't talk about peering or exchange. there's a bigger war over this in the background, with ISPs saying that settlement-free peering can't uphold in a world where traffic is one-way
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go ahead and read the order btw, this stuff is mentioned starting on page 86 https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-15-24A1.pdf
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Your ISP is a Piece Of poo poo
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