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bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug
Here's an idea which I hope will take off, and maybe generate some interesting discussion. You get to have one (1) vehicle for whatever use you have, and you get to have it just the way you want. What would this hypothetical vehicle be like?

I'll start:
  • Basically a slightly smaller BMW 5-series wagon. Somewhere between the 3 and the 5. RWD for sure.
  • LSD + the ability to turn traction control completely off.
  • An EV, though, with at least 500km range in any conditions, including very cold ones.
  • Good, firm suspension, tight steering. Good handling. Good brakes.
  • Power everything.
  • Giant sunroof.
  • Black leather interior, sports seats, heated + cooled. ISOFIX everywhere except driver's seat.
  • Nice thick steering wheel, not too big diameter. Possible to operate most common stuff from steering wheel controls.
  • Good visibility, somehow. I realize we'll never get back to the greenhouses of the 90s, but at least let it be better than the Evoque.
  • Good night mode for instrumentation (a friend's dad had a Saab 9-5 once that would turn everything off except the speedo, which was dimmed.)
  • A good, potent A/C system that keeps the car cool but not drafty. Possible to turn it on remotely ahead of departure.
  • Semi-automated parallel and back-in parking, like the Model S and others. Parking sensors all around.
  • Rear view/side view cameras.
  • Integrated navigation system with live traffic.
  • Integrated, always on, front and rear (at least) dash cams.
  • Foldable tow hook.
  • Rear seats fold down (or up) to create giant cargo area. 60/40 split.
  • Auto open trunk lid.
  • A roof luggage system (roof box and/or bike carriers) that sits close to the roof line, and not six inches off like most stacked up stuff today.
  • Floor mats that loving stay in place. Goddamnit.
  • Well made, easy to repair and troubleshoot, not rust prone. Should fail gracefully over time.

I basically just need to make Tesla and BMW have a merger, don't I? :D

Your turn!

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




For 90% of what I do? It's a pretty simple answer:

I want a retro-modernized RWD/4x4 Comanche with a lightly extended cab (to accommodate my height).

Body on frame with full undercoating and cutting edge design for rust resistance. Go all loving out, build the whole bastard out of unobtanium if you have to, but make it not rot.

Manual transmission behind a torquey modern inline 4 or 6.

Actual gauges, to include tach, voltage, and temps. Digital HUDs can bite my rusty metal rear end.

Sufficient ground clearance to mount substantial MTs or gnarly snow tires.

Simple head unit with Bluetooth and no bright face to be a distraction at night. gently caress your touch screen.

Both of the above fully and competently airgapped to prevent intrusion.

Factory dashcam with onboard blackbox that backs up to remote storage.

Quality fogs and lights.

Full-size spare mount in bed that sits in front of the wheel well and doesn't interfere with getting 8' dimensional lumber or a kayak in the center of the bed. Locking tool box in the same position on the other side.

Wing vents and sliding rear window.

Weatherproofed interior stock. I want a truck I can mop out.

Sweet-rear end 70's style paint options. I want a brown, red, and orange truck.

Hitch with towing capacity to pull a light camper trailer.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Sep 12, 2017

craig588
Nov 19, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
A Smart Fourtwo, but with a good transmission. It's a car that could exist, but the people they're selling to either don't know or don't care about having a good driving experience. While I'm thinking up dream cars I'd hope that the Elio Motors car isn't a scam. I like small cars, I want all my cars to be tiny but in the US they're virtually impossible to find. I could spend thousands to import a 25 year old kei car, or I could spend even more thousands to get a Honda Insight from like 10 years ago, but for now I get sub 1,000 dollar Miatas because they're the closest thing to a small car I can find for cheap in the US. A convertible top is a plus, I really like looking around with no obstructions, but I'd give that up for the limitations of safety and physics needed to make a small car.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug

Liquid Communism posted:

Both of the above fully and competently airgapped to prevent intrusion.

Oh gently caress yes. I want kastein to be the embedded SW QA lead, armed with a megaphone and a cricket bat.

Also, I'm going to miss a manual transmission in my hypothetical EV.

dk2m
May 6, 2009
It would honestly just be a Subaru Levorg using some sort of modified FA20 engine with atleast 400HP, STI 6 Speed and Recaro seats. Remap the ECU to eliminate the existing rev hang the WRX has, get rid of electric steering and add some Brembo brakes and I'd gladly pay 40K for it.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
A V70R but updated with a 2017 drivetrain (modern B4204T9 inline six, six-speed manual transmission) to give slightly better fuel economy and emissions, modern airbags, modern steering wheel and Apple Carplay.

Garage2Roadtrip
Oct 27, 2016
B6/7 S4 with 3g+ MMI and a V8 w/o the timing chain debacle. Would take wagon or sedan, and definitely 6 speed.

Basically any of the recent great cars from the 2000's-now without all the crippling mechanical issues (N62 coolant pipe, valve stem seals; 4.2 timing chain, 996 IMS; etc)

Octopus Magic
Dec 19, 2003

I HATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU LIKE* AND I NEED TO BE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT EVERY TIME I POST

*unless it's a DSM in which case we cool ^_^
A Mk4 Toyota Supra that has a stiffer chassis and doesn't have a fanbase that's the six figure fly-over state millionaires 90000 hp idiots.

Alternatively, an FD RX-7 without miles of vacuum hoses, better gas milage, less boost in, apex seals out, and better parts availability.

Other alternative: C5 Z06 Corvette with an interior that isn't made by 90s Chevrolet

But ultimately they all pale in comparison to a TVR Cerbera or Sagaris which are pretty much perfect in all manner. Including their failures.

Lightbulb Out
Apr 28, 2006

slack jawed yokel
:getin:

:smug:

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
My Mazda 3 except with a lot more sound insulation.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
- low, wide, massive fender flares, pop-up headlights, eighties design
- modern interior with a touchscreen and nav and sirius
- an inline eight engine
- a manual transmission
- a functional backseat
- rear or all wheel drive
- easy to work on, cheap parts
- preferably german-engineered, swedish would be acceptable too
- wagon or shooting brake

Yeah, I'm not a regular consumer.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




A full size wagon was my secondary go-to, but I'm single and haul enough stuff that a truck bed is better.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


It would basically be a Volvo 240 estate with something like a mildly boosted 2JZ and supporting drivetrain and suspension gubbins. Manual of course. In beige. With the fold up rear facing seats in the back.

stevobob
Nov 16, 2008

Alchemy - the study of how to turn LS1's into a 20B. :science:


A car that could transform between RWD sports, AWD crossover,, 4wd cargo van, 4wd pickup and spaceship at will

Also many cupholders

Seriously though electric with very very fast charging, awd/4wd, good ground clearance, space to haul dogs around other than the back seat, well appointed with comfortable seats and good visibility

stevobob fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Sep 13, 2017

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

A sub 1400 kg 2+2 rwd coupe with a long hood, a 7 speed manual, great driving dynamics with an engine bay designed to accept any engine ever made.

(Comes with a high revving low displacement v12 at first)

Pomp and Circumcized
Dec 23, 2006

If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.

Octopus Magic posted:

A Mk4 Toyota Supra that has a stiffer chassis and doesn't have a fanbase that's the six figure fly-over state millionaires 90000 hp idiots.

Alternatively, an FD RX-7 without miles of vacuum hoses, better gas milage, less boost in, apex seals out, and better parts availability.

Other alternative: C5 Z06 Corvette with an interior that isn't made by 90s Chevrolet

But ultimately they all pale in comparison to a TVR Cerbera or Sagaris which are pretty much perfect in all manner. Including their failures.

I just want all the 90's Japanese cars but with Tesla drivetrains and tech in them.

If I ever end up earning enough money to retire early, I'll spend my days stuffing the guts from wrecked Teslas into ropey 90's Japanese cars.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug

Pomp and Circumcized posted:

If I ever end up earning enough money to retire early, I'll spend my days stuffing the guts from wrecked Teslas into ropey 90's Japanese cars.

If I end up winning the lottery, I might pay you to do just that, provided you're willing to be followed around by a film crew at all times.

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
In my own life situation, a small Toyota wagon that was under 18k. Really. I am old and boring. Or actually if someone would just give me a brand new Tacoma 4x4 I'll take that.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

1975 Chevy Silverado 3/4 ton with an LS engine under the hood, all around disc brakes, and an extra leaf in the springs to improve towing capacity.

I mean, I could make a list, but it all basically boils down to the above.

Pomp and Circumcized
Dec 23, 2006

If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.

bolind posted:

If I end up winning the lottery, I might pay you to do just that, provided you're willing to be followed around by a film crew at all times.

Hell yeah. Having someone else fund my dream cars would be even better than having to earn my own fortune :p

rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?
I just want something (a pickup right now) with adaptive cruise, lane keep assist, etc really a tesla like autopilot to make those long interstate trips so much less frustrating. Not totally self driving, but enough to take the frustration out of getting caught behind someone who cant maintain a speed.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


1967 continental 4 door convertible
~500hp, AWD, electric /w 100 mile range, small diesel range extender.
Air suspension
foot well extended into the former engine bay
2017 continental seats, good armrests, decent stereo.

Also

63 falcon
carbon fiber everything
1.0 ecoboost
6 speed stick

epic bird guy
Dec 9, 2014

I'd pick pretty much any pre-2006 Saab but awd and faster.

But especially a 99 turbo or 9-5

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




A Mclaren P1.

Or...

4 door wagon/hatchback
RWD or switchable AWD with LSD
carbon or aluminum body (for weight and also because midwest :v:) and AL sub frames/control arms
manual trans or DSG
100 mile electric range with range extender in the form a 500ish hp turbocharged 6 or 8 cylinder
heated seats
mag ride type switchable suspension for comfort and also for sporty driving
Android auto

or...
the same as above but in a <3000lb 2 door hatchback.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Porsche 911 GT3 Touring with 3 pedals.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Ohrmazd posted:

My Mazda 3 except with a lot more sound insulation.

Ditto. Just add a better CPU and CarPlay to the infotainment system and do something about the awful piano black (aka cheap laptop) trim

Things I definitely do not want
- Leather seats
- Sunroof

craig588
Nov 19, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yeah, I don't get why so many manufacturers like leather seats. There's like half a dozen better feeling options than leather, I'd put it right at the bottom in terms of seat materials. Cloth, nylon, velor, alcantera, the neoprene hybrid material you get on race seats, even that really thick wool that's impossible to clean feels nicer than leather. People think I don't like leather for some animal rights thing, no, I just think it feels bad, seats, jackets, furniture, all of it feels bad.

I also would like an all electric drivetrain, but the cost of a cheap gas engine is so much lower for now, it'll probably flip in a decade or so, but I still need cars for those interim years. I could always wish for an electric drivetrain that costs 500 dollars right now but at that point it gets weird and you might as well wish for a car that costs a 1 dollar and has a 10,000 mile range and never breaks.

mekilljoydammit
Jan 28, 2016

Me have motors that scream to 10,000rpm. Me have more cars than Pick and Pull
Hm, ok. I'm assuming I can keep my race cars in this hypothetical.

Wagon format with sufficient ground clearance to survive winter. Nothing too shouty or outright huge, Impreza Wagon is right about OK size-wise. Ideally a pretty rigid body but enh.

Wishbones front and rear with shock/spring calibration done competently - controlled body movement but not crashy. Load levelling would be nice but not necessary. Balanced close enough to neutral to be able to steer with the gas pedal and not feel awkward about it.

AWD with at least active center differential and ideally active rear and front, initially a bit rear biased but setup to be able to make the use of whatever grip there is. Manual 6 speed with decently close ratios - most of the Japanese manual 6-speeds have this about right. Brakes with booster tuned towards force sensitive with very little travel, good modulation on pads.

Powertrain... I'm slightly agnostic. Heavily turboed 6 or high winding V8. Around 550-600hp if the total vehicle weight is kept controlled, powerband emphasized towards sudden kick around 4k RPM and redline around 8ish. Direct injection, decent fuel economy, poo poo like that would be nice but whatever. Like to be able to get out of its own way without needing to be monstrously powerful.

Seats that actually fit; fixed buckets are fine if they're the right drat shape, not full on race car spartan but I'm driving a car not sitting in a la-z-boy. Rest of the ergonomics are hard to describe but I'll just fix it until it's fixed. ;)

Something like that.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet



Edit: Alternatively,

Pomp and Circumcized posted:

I just want all the 90's Japanese cars but with Tesla drivetrains and tech in them.

If I ever end up earning enough money to retire early, I'll spend my days stuffing the guts from wrecked Teslas into ropey 90's Japanese cars.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
A modern turbo rwd mira. Small, fun, and room to be practicalish

Would settle for a modern 180sx. The gt86 doesnt count, you can fit 6 spare wheels in the back of a 180 with the seats down. You can fit more in a 180 than my wrx.

E: i want cruise control, aircon, android auto and thats all i need to be happy. The only assist i want is abs b/c i can't brake good

underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Sep 14, 2017

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.
Take one 2017 Mazda3* Grand Touring, add all wheel drive and the 2.5T from the CX-9, BBS wheels, Brembo brakes, Recaro seats, Pilot SuperSports, and CarPlay. In Spicy Orange.


*or CX5

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Larrymer has already posted it


E: though I'd like the little more back seat room you get in a e34 5 series, but if not carrying people in the back seat often, yeah,I want that one.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
The NA1 NSX.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Fo3 posted:

Larrymer has already posted it

This was an amazing looking car. If it had a for sale sign I would have been asking a lot of questions.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Rwd or awd wagon with enough towing capacity to pull my boat around
Preferably with a turbo 4 or a tt v6
The looks of the current mazda 6 wagon
Decent handling for when I do go driving for fun
Comfortable enough for 2-3 hours of driving without my rear end going numb
Heated and cooled seats
A good stereo system with subwoofer and largish LCD display
Functional oil pressure and water temp gauges
Leather interior, gently caress the haters
Sunroof
Keyless entry and push button start

Realistically, I need 2 vehicles. 1 for regular driving, one for doing hauling/towing/cargo duty. The wagon I have now is an excellent compromise, but its a case of jack of all trades master of none. And it can't tow the boat. :(

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
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Rwd or awd wagon with enough towing capacity to pull my boat around
Preferably with a turbo 4 or a tt v6
The looks of the current mazda 6 wagon
Decent handling for when I do go driving for fun
Comfortable enough for 2-3 hours of driving without my rear end going numb
Heated and cooled seats
A good stereo system with subwoofer and largish LCD display
Functional oil pressure and water temp gauges
Leather interior, gently caress the haters
Sunroof
Keyless entry and push button start

Realistically, I need 2 vehicles. 1 for regular driving, one for doing hauling/towing/cargo duty. The wagon I have now is an excellent compromise, but its a case of jack of all trades master of none. And it can’t tow the boat. :(
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Sounds like you want an Audi

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Self renewing onboard power source.
Offensive systems for lovely drivers.
Free.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this
It works.

serious answer, XB falcon interceptor. You know the one. Must include dog.

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Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

I want a shooting brake/3 door hatch. Italian. FR. V8/manual. Wishbone front/multilink rear. Make it rust-prone in non-critical areas so I can get one cheap used. Any interior surface that isn't dead animals or dead trees must be body colored metal. Make it look like Giugiaro drew a mid 70s American compact that got rear ended by a Volvo Amazon wagon but in 2004 and on drugs.

Turbo Fondant fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Sep 15, 2017

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