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There are some teams where you can make a convincing argument that many players are the best to ever play for an extended period. For example, with the Ravens I feel like you could make a pretty convincing arguement that Ogden, Lewis and Reed are all the best ever without getting chased out of a Baltimore bar. I feel like there are a small number of teams where saying anyone other than this person will immediately result in you getting shouted down. These are the ones I can think of, who would you agree/disagree with? The rule I used was that I just thought of the team and if one name didn't come to mind instantly I just skipped them. That could be because there's not just one player or because there's not even one player. Your metrics may be different. Does one of mine or one of yours jump out? Also I considered the Oilers and the Titans one team because lol Titans.                   Look I don't really follow the NFC, OK?
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I feel like Staubach is a better choice for Dallas. And I'd argue against LdT
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Sep 27, 2017 04:04
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Smith, not Peppers.
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Sep 27, 2017 04:14
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I think of Sapp when I think Bucs Also please use a better pic of Dan 
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Sep 27, 2017 04:16
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a neat cape posted:
Seau? Only person I'd put anywhere close to him. Comedy option Takeo Spikes
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Sep 27, 2017 04:30
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I think there's a pretty solid argument between Tony Gonzalez and DT for the Chiefs. And maaaybe some slight argument with a lot of historical 'well you can't just look at the numbers and compare them to modern football' for Len Dawson but I don't feel nearly strongly enough about that to try to bother actually making that argument.
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Sep 27, 2017 04:34
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Is there an argument for anyone other than Larry Fitzgerald for the Cardinals? The only other hall of famer that jumps to mind is Dan Dierdorf and I think I'd probably value Fitz more than him, but I don't really know poo poo about Dierdorf other than he's a hall of famer and was a loving awful announcer. Well Kurt Warner, but I associate him with the Rams.
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I mean, Elway is the best football player ever, so you can go ahead and chisel him in.
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Sep 27, 2017 04:47
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Afterbirth Aftermath posted:I mean, Elway is the best football player ever, so you can go ahead and chisel him in. Horses can't play football.
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Sep 27, 2017 04:50
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Cowboys fans may argue Deion but he works for the Falcons too
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Sep 27, 2017 04:52
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Rams is definitely Deacon Jones
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Sep 27, 2017 04:53
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Moss for the Vikings? Taylor for three Jags?
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Sep 27, 2017 05:00
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I know I just brought up Kurt Warner and I personally love Torry Holt, but I think it has to be Dickerson for the Rams.Intruder posted:Moss for the Vikings? I think there's a pretty solid argument for Tarkenton. He retired like Marino and Favre did, holding every single passing record.
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Sep 27, 2017 05:02
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Eifert Posting posted:Seau? Only person I'd put anywhere close to him. I'd say Seau, but I'm kind of biased since he was basically my childhood hero when I was a kid
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Sep 27, 2017 05:13
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Grittybeard posted:Is there an argument for anyone other than Larry Fitzgerald for the Cardinals? it's hard because they've been around for like a hundred years. jim hart? charley trippi? aeneas williams? do you believe that adrian wilson got the short end of the stick league recognition wise? larry wilson had 5 all-pros. we're a decade away from it but patrick peterson has a good chance at being better than all of them.
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Sep 27, 2017 05:33
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Reggie White for the Eagles.
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Sep 27, 2017 05:39
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gently caress you. I was extremely proud and impressed by the smart OP for including Walter Jones. Best ever Seahawk. I love ET but Big Walt is a league wide GOAT.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:gently caress you. I was extremely proud and impressed by the smart OP for including Walter Jones. Best ever Seahawk. I love ET but Big Walt is a league wide GOAT. Is it between him and Munoz for the best LT ever or am I forgetting someone?
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Grittybeard posted:Is it between him and Munoz for the best LT ever or am I forgetting someone? Ogden is right there too.
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Sep 27, 2017 06:25
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Gotta go with Max Magee for Green Bay. Hungover as poo poo for Super Bowl I after a night of partying and boozing. 138 yards, 2 touchdowns, 1 borrowed helmet.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:gently caress you. I was extremely proud and impressed by the smart OP for including Walter Jones. Best ever Seahawk. I love ET but Big Walt is a league wide GOAT. Oh poo poo, I thought this thread was about best current player.
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Sep 27, 2017 08:24
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the best bengal of all time is Neil O'Donnell
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Sep 27, 2017 08:52
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I'd say Brian Dawkins for the Eagles but there is a suuuper good argument for Reggie White too.
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Cavauro posted:the best bengal of all time is Neil O'Donnell You mean Ickey Woods
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Sep 27, 2017 09:17
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We've fallen so far from the years of Ogden, Orlando Pace, and Walt. Who's the best LT in the league now? Tyron Smith? You can't even make a comparison. P.S. AJ Green is obviously the best Bengal.
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Sep 27, 2017 09:29
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Ed Reed for the Ravens has to be up there right? Does he beat out Ray Lewis?
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Sep 27, 2017 09:39
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CyberPingu posted:Ed Reed for the Ravens has to be up there right? Does he beat out Ray Lewis? I think it's between those two for the Ravens far above anyone else, and I honestly don't know which I'd choose. Ray has a pretty decent argument for the best MLB to ever play the game. Ed is in my mind the best free safety to ever play. e: Well poo poo we were just talking about Ogden and I forgot about him already. So between those three I don't think the Ravens have an obvious best player. They really have had an embarrassment of riches for such a short lived franchise. And still Kawalimus exists.
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Sep 27, 2017 09:48
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Personally I think it's between Reed and Ogden. Lewis might be near the best MLB ever but his peak never approached what Reed and Ogden could do. Ogden simply canceled the best opposing pass rusher and was the lead blocker for world class running teams who were unable to even threaten throwing the football. Ed Reed was Ed Reed. Offense on defense, flipped fields, read QBs like no one else ever has, etc. The only contention against Reed is that he played with no regard for his own (or anyone else's) well being so injuries made him a shell of himself his last 2-3 seasons.
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I think you might be selling Lewis the player (as opposed to the person) a little bit short, but either way that just reinforces the point. I don't think there's a single Raven that can be pointed to as the best in that franchise. And the guys we can argue about were all absolutely amazing players.
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Grittybeard posted:I know I just brought up Kurt Warner and I personally love Torry Holt, but I think it has to be Dickerson for the Rams. I'd be more split between Moss and Alan Page but Fran Tarkenton can also be entertained.
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Sep 27, 2017 12:09
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Good to know no one disputes Moorman.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:We've fallen so far from the years of Ogden, Orlando Pace, and Walt. Who's the best LT in the league now? Tyron Smith? Still Thomas?
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Sep 27, 2017 12:51
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Intruder posted:Still Thomas? Lol no
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Sep 27, 2017 18:26
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It's probably Trent Williams
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Sep 27, 2017 18:34
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Eifert Posting posted:Good to know no one disputes Moorman. 
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MD2020 posted:Reggie White for the Eagles. I was going to argue Dawkins or comedy option  but Reggie White is probably the right answer. It still bums me out how sour he was on the Eagles at the end and that he died so young.Someone older might say Bednarik but I have zero insight into him other than watching highlight reels.
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WHOOPS posted:I'd be more split between Moss and Alan Page but Fran Tarkenton can also be entertained. I honestly can't make a decision between Moss and Page.
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