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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Ya'all arguing with a LWB rereg.

Anyway, I feel like the best Seahawks are between Walt, Earl, and Cortez (rip). I'm leaning towards Walt cause goddamn I'd kill for a good LT right now.

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Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
To be fair if you randomly selected 100 Hawks fans like 96 wouldn't know who Walter Jones is (or any other player from before 2011).

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


It's Steve Largent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSOPrwb-mQc

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Wrong people believe there's an argument Walter Jones is the best lineman of all time.

Almost no one lists largent in the top 5 wrs, barring maybe caste Football.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

This thread inspired me to think of a good question, called: which player do you think is the best player who ever was on your favorite team? for example, not my team but, I'd say for the 49ers it's Jerry Rice. Answer below

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Eifert Posting posted:

Almost no one lists largent in the top 5 wrs, barring maybe caste Football.

I mean, PFR's AV thinks he's the best Seahawks player. And even though that's a...questionable measurement, it's far from caste football.

I'd pick Jones too, just noting that there's an actual argument there and not a caste football one.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

let me tell you about Fred Biletnikoff

D-LINK
Oct 1, 2007

I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.
Steelers has to be Joe Greene: 10 straight all-pros and 2x DPOY

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Eifert Posting posted:

Wrong people believe there's an argument Walter Jones is the best lineman of all time.

Almost no one lists largent in the top 5 wrs, barring maybe caste Football.

Did you even watch that sweet video

Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

It's Steve Largent

Walter Jones.

https://www.si.com/vault/2005/08/08/8269213/stronger-than-ever

quote:

The key to his workout? Pushing an SUV around a parking lot near his home in Harvest, Ala. When he played for Aliceville (Ala.) High, Jones and the other linemen sometimes had to push small cars in preseason workouts. These days Jones is up to a three-ton Escalade. Twice-a-week truck pushing is the only lower-body training he does, and Jones says it's an excellent substitute for squats, which hurt his back.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

Did you even watch that sweet video

Nah

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
I'd argue Bruce Matthews over Warren Moon.

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."
It's a shame Larry Allen was on the Cowboys because he's so loving awesome, I love him.

Roasted Donut
Aug 24, 2007

NWA WHITE POWERRR!!!!

MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:

Steelers has to be Joe Greene: 10 straight all-pros and 2x DPOY

There isn't a single argument to be made otherwise.

MrLogan
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about Derek Carr's stolen MVP awards, those dastardly refs, and, oh yeah, having the absolute worst fucking gimmick in The Football Funhouse.
Agreed with everyone who said that there are too many Raiders players to pick from.

On the current team, zero dispute that it is Mack.

Roasted Donut posted:

There isn't a single argument to be made otherwise.

Joe Greene/Reggie White are 1b & 1a of the greatest defense players to ever play the game, imo.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
I realize ~character~ concerns don't apply but Steve Largent is kind of a piece of poo poo irl which is why I'll never say he's the best Seahawk.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE
There's pretty good consensus that Drew Brees is the #1 Saints player of all time, but that's more an indictment of the first 40 years of the team than anything else.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

ulmont posted:

There's pretty good consensus that Drew Brees is the #1 Saints player of all time, but that's more an indictment of the first 40 years of the team than anything else.

Thats extremely weak for you considering he's probably going to finish top 3 in every QB stat.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Chichevache posted:

Thats extremely weak for you considering he's probably going to finish top 3 in every QB stat.

I think you missed my point.

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr

ulmont posted:

I think you missed my point.

Unless the definition of the word "indictment" changed, I'm not sure he did.

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe

Grittybeard posted:

Is there an argument for anyone other than Larry Fitzgerald for the Cardinals?

The only other hall of famer that jumps to mind is Dan Dierdorf and I think I'd probably value Fitz more than him, but I don't really know poo poo about Dierdorf other than he's a hall of famer and was a loving awful announcer.

Well Kurt Warner, but I associate him with the Rams.

It's fitz.

Afterbirth Aftermath
Aug 29, 2002
It is, but I'd offer Aeneas Williams to help fill in the defense

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967
So to answer your question in the topic:

Colts
Cardinals
Saints
Texans

Lot of disputes in this thread knocking teams out of contention.

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe
2-minute-drill-target.jpg

https://twitter.com/mikejurecki/status/913848353972142082

Afterbirth Aftermath
Aug 29, 2002

Athanatos posted:

So to answer your question in the topic:

Colts
Cardinals
Saints
Texans

Lot of disputes in this thread knocking teams out of contention.

Isn't there still plenty of old timers who think Johnny U was the best ever?

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967

Afterbirth Aftermath posted:

Isn't there still plenty of old timers who think Johnny U was the best ever?

They're old! There are people who think MJ is better than LeBron too.

Peyton's stats are stupid crazy amazing, but lets say we account for differences in eras; I'm giving Peyton the win because without him the Colts failed in Indianapolis and moved to LA

D-LINK
Oct 1, 2007

I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.

Roasted Donut posted:

There isn't a single argument to be made otherwise.

Like, I could see Mike Webster being considered the best center of all-time tho

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
The Bears could probably argue a dozen guys but why bother

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:

Like, I could see Mike Webster being considered the best center of all-time tho

Yeah, he was shockingly good. A real electrifying player. Also a hugely positive influence on his team. Mike absolutely stunned interior pass rushers with his ability.

D-LINK
Oct 1, 2007

I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.

Chichevache posted:

Yeah, he was shockingly good. A real electrifying player. Also a hugely positive influence on his team. Mike absolutely stunned interior pass rushers with his ability.

smh

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
Taser

D-LINK
Oct 1, 2007

I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.
I got the reference, but the joke was so bad I could only shake my head

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr

mastershakeman posted:

The Bears could probably argue a dozen guys but why bother

It's sweetness.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Out of curiosity, since I mentioned AV earlier, here's the difference between the top two players on each team, which probably is closest to doubling as a lowest dispute over best player.

AV does overrate quarterbacks a bit, and career length, but whatever, close enough.

E. Err nevermind, I guess imgur is hosed at the moment.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
The best Steelers player of all time is the one who cost them the most games imo.

Sent from my iPad
Jun 19, 2000

ulmont posted:

There's pretty good consensus that Drew Brees is the #1 Saints player of all time, but that's more an indictment of the first 40 years of the team than anything else.
Brees is the most important Saint of all time, and certainly the franchise's MVP.

But Roaf is the best player to ever put on a Saints jersey.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

e: wrong thread

Alaois fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Sep 30, 2017

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
There are zero teams that have zero dispute over their best player, close thread.

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Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

General Dog posted:

There are zero teams that have zero dispute over their best player, close thread.

Houston Texans? :crossarms:

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