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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



OwlFancier posted:

Is anybody on earth awaiting the return of will and grace?

My grandmother lol and some sad old gays on the gossip forums I peruse.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Majorian posted:

Yeah, Booker especially. "Used car salesman vs. used car salesman."

More like Guy who saves people from burning buildings vs White Supremacist who grabs women's vaginas without their consent.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



yronic heroism posted:

Yeah, I guess the smear machine is already in high gear if random people are coming into D&D believing this poo poo.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/wasserman-schultz-elizabeth-warren-payday-lending-223802

Payday loan offices are loving evil and often lure in the poorest and most vulnerable with the promise of FREE MONEY NOW! And almost always lands them in more debt.

They should be abolished. Phone posting because I'm out running errands but someone post the John Oliver video for this page please.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



I'm not gonna argue that there are not legitimate reasons to be skeptical of Booker, my problem is that the only people I ever see raising these concerns are white liberals and leftists.

I also don't believe in Cory's authenticity problem or whatever. Dude seems a lot more into helping on a personal level and I'm skeptical of the circular firing squad coming after him.

I also don't believe we need to start shooting these people so soon. No one's even running yet and everyone is so ready to tear down any front runner, which is especially dangerous now that we know about Russian tactics trying to tear the liberals apart by running pro Sanders and Stein ads. We need to lockstep with whoever the next nominee is.

Yeah in an ideal world, we'd have a great candidate who ticks all our political boxes, but this the world where Trump is President. And splitting the vote will only assure he stays that way.

Koalas March fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Sep 29, 2017

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Why do you pay attention to so many random people on twitter who have lovely opinions? I can go out and find twitter users from "the left" and rage about them all day long, but that would be incredibly stupid. Why do you think posting random people that supported clinton lends weight to your viewpoint?

Bravenak was right though

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Ytlaya posted:

Well, I mean, he's right; what the guy said was really stupid/offensive but doesn't really imply he's a literal Nazi.

Can someone link to the maybe-nazi post?

I mean my first instinct, especially in this climate, is to be suspicious. Some people know that being a white supremacist is frowned upon but eventually their real views leak out. I hate to break yall's hearts but there are literal white supremacists on this site that skate under the radar.

And to add: the people climbing out the woodwork to defend the guy are part of the problem. Some jump to defend people who are likely to white supremacists (because either they ignore or don't see the signs) when they should be listening to poc, women, lgbt folks etc about this poo poo.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Ah yeah, it just sounds like a dumb poo poo post to me.

That said, I don't fault anyone for being overly concerned right now. Some white supremacists are getting bold as gently caress.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Barbe Rouge posted:

This has to be trolling, it's just too embarassing to be real.

Yeah seriously. I'm constantly called out for "assuming everyone is racist" and poo poo and even I'm saying it's probably just a dumb bad post.

Which makes it perfect for this thread!

Koalas March fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Oct 18, 2017

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



yronic heroism posted:

I disagree in this case. If it walks like a duck.

I am starting to wonder if you're one of those alt right guys who thinks stirring up poo poo and making false claims about white supremacists will make other claims less credible.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



yronic heroism posted:

I have never claimed to be a centrist.

Take a break dude

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



yronic heroism posted:

Look the bottom line is I am willing to call it out as Nazi poo poo in this context and don't think I need a loving lecture from Kilroy about that.

Take the drat L

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



FYI since we are (in a way) in discussion on white supremacy/racism, the old Negrotown thread was goldmined, and there is a fresh one off the griddle.



Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Grapplejack posted:

Who goldmined it?

I asked and did it. Does it matter?

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Grapplejack posted:

Not really, no. I was just curious; D&D doesn't get goldmined threads very often, so I was just curious.

Ah, gotcha. Yeah Negrotown is awesome and officially part of SA lore, so it deserved to get goldmine imo.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



The Kingfish posted:

NObody had better say the Negrotown thread was goldmined because of affirmative action. Thats not the sort of joke we like to see around here so please just don't do it!

"ironic" racism is still racism buddy

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



yronic, why are you still so concerned over a shitpost from pages ago, but say nothing about Kingfish's ironic racism if you are such a good anti-racist/antifascist ally?

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



JeffersonClay posted:

Also are you supposed to be taking posts from other threads and responding here because that's not what the OP rules indicate. If so I'll happily quote those posts to help you understand.

I can clear it with Guyovich, but it does say put bad posts here.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



yronic heroism posted:

Link me to it?

It's literally on the last page.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



NewForumSoftware posted:

It's really not that hard to support single payer healthcare, taxing the wealthy, reforming the police, ending the MIC, taking strong action on climate change, reparations, etc if you have an ethical bone in your body.

I am genuinely curious about how many posters here would be cool with reparations if it were ever legitimately on the table.

I also wonder how many people would leave the DNC if they backed it.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Mr Hootington posted:

I'm keeping my ps4.

you would

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Does anyone have those studies that talk about how the actual best thing for poor people is to just give them money?

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



The Kingfish posted:

You mean the one done overseas or was there a similar study conducted in the US?

I am pretty sure there was one (or a few?) in the US. But I'll take the overseas ones if you got them.

Also, for anyone who was interested in helping, the thread for the TGRS project brainstorm session is here. Which is where I wanted to post them btw.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Mr Hootington posted:

Remember when homeless people were given homes and it lowered homelessness.

Yeah, if I can get a link to that to, I'd appreciate it. Actually any good resources on poverty and poverty statistics would be loving great

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



I been sayin yronic is a bad troll. Much like Trump, he implements attacks based on pure projection. Ignore him and move on.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



ClancyEverafter posted:

As an act of solidarity we should all put him on our ignore list. I just did. Be a good comrade, y'all, we've got a wrecker to unperson!

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Ze Pollack posted:

it's fascinating watching someone make one stupid misstep and then deciding hey, you know what, instead of acknowledging I hosed up I am going to generate a new political philosophy, based entirely on backsolving from "no I'm not owned, you're owned"

He basically accused me of not being anti-racist/antifa enough.

Me.

ME.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



lol everyone hates me and tells me to gtfo to my face, surely if i keep posting I'll show them!!!

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



WampaLord posted:

Remember when KM was like "Just take the L and move on" and you loving quintupled down and now you're at this point?

Maybe you should have listened.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Kilroy posted:

The racist tree story outlines a pretty effective problem-solving technique for combating racism: do not tolerate racism.

This guy gets it

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Mr Hootington posted:

I saw nothing in that post about economic anxiety. Clearly he didn't.

Koalas March fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Oct 23, 2017

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Calibanibal posted:

nah, sam "If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion" harris deserves every spoonful of scorn tossed his way and more. he's poo poo, an islamophobic warhawk and i would spit on him given the chance

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



VitalSigns posted:

Yes and it makes me cautiously optimistic because that's always the last line of defense for someone who has realized their position is indefensible. Once they get to the point where they can't support their argument and have to resort to "ugh why won't you just stop caring and let me win" it's only a matter of time.

It was particularly prominent in D&D around 2013 in the gay marriage debate. People knew it was wrong to discriminate against gays but still had emotional hangups about gay people existing so you saw a lot of "why do you care about gay marriage so much, it doesn't MATTER, just stop caring already like me... what's that? If it doesn't matter and I don't care anyway why not let you get married? NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT, NEVER!" And well it wasn't long before resistance to progress collapsed.

So I'm optimistic we'll get reforms if the biggest cheerleaders are no longer even defending it and just asking everyone to stop caring.

D&D in particular has gotten a lot better with regards to homophobia, racism, etc. We can do better (and I try to help as much as I can) and I believe we will. I feel like there are more good faith posters who are more willing to learn than in the past, and that goes a long way.

I mean now if I call someone out on a dogwhistling or microaggression some jerk will show up and be a dick but it's usually not even the person I was trying to talk to. Before I'd get dogpiled by a lot more posters.

Although I will admit I have had a lot less patience lately, but that's more related to my chronic pain disorder. It flared up bad the last 2 weeks or so and it makes me irritable and more flippant, which I am not exactly proud of. I'll cop to that.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



I love watching goons argue about black people without the presence of actual black posters.

Hot loving mess.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Roland Jones posted:

Oh wow; while I already knew JC was really lovely, that is just indefensibly awful.

JC is the kinda guy who will run into a conversation like Kramer and say "Let me tell you about the blacks"

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



A lovely Reporter posted:

Wanted to register my deep loving contempt for the people defending Franken in the Trump thread. Ugh.

You should see the folks who got mad at the idea that it's nice to ask for consent.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Inescapable Duck posted:

A bit rich coming from the liberals who are convinced that leftists are just eagerly waiting for the moment to throw women and minorities under the bus. (at least in theory, anyway)

Yes because that's a thing that's never happened before. Totally no long history of politicians loving over minorities as soon as they become an inconvenience, no siree.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Rent-A-Cop posted:

It'd be worth mentioning if it was something the American far left did, rather than just something every politician in US history has done.

I think part of the problem is people get defensive and assume we are only wary of the left loving us over, rather than politicians as a whole.

It happens every time, of course folks will be suspicious.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Misogyny is not limited to the GOP, unfortunately.

Liberals and progressives may be more "enlightened" than the GOP on some issues but unfortunately that doesn't mean we don't have a lot of work to do.

Part of that work is removing guys like Franken.

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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Also: it's important to know that this stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's not surprising that there is a long pattern of behavior in these cases.

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