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Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008
This is going to suuuuuuuuuuck...

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Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Trabisnikof posted:

If Bernie is the best we can do in 2020 we are so hosed.

Bernie or someone like Bernie is the best America is going to be able to do for a while. Socialism isn't really widely accepted, if you haven't noticed. More likely we're getting Kamala or someone similar.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Majorian posted:

That was DWS, who really is awful.

e: I doubt she wrote this memo, but this is the sort of awful Democratic strategy that I associate with her:



I expect all politicians to be cynical, but this is some cynical poo poo right here.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Condiv posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/grandoftwo/status/913628551043325952?ref_src=tw

Why does bernie not having an elitist past piss certain types of liberals off so much? Do these liberals actually despise people who don't live absolutely perfect lives?

Because the Democratic party is the party of the professional. It's less anti-intellectual, but in some ways more prone to shallow credentialism.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

yronic heroism posted:

Johnson was of course a pro war centrist who ran largely on his opponent's nuttiness (sound familiar?). Beyond that his platform was the same Great Society stuff that Stevenson, Humphrey, Mondale, Carter and all the rest supported. But by all means let's gather round as Canadians tell us about a lost U.S. leftist party that never existed.

Yeah, this. Leftism in America has always been largely reactionary to ongoing political and economic events: reacting to the depredations of Capitalism during the Great Depression, reacting to the allure/threat of Communism during the Cold War, reacting to racial unrest during the Civil Rights era, reacting now to the rise of Fascism. We routinely forget about the values of socialism (I'm including welfare statism here as well) pretty much the moment the immediate problem it was meant to solve is at least temporarily ameliorated.

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Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008
Nah, this is actual slavery. https://www.revealnews.org/article/they-thought-they-were-going-to-rehab-they-ended-up-in-chicken-plants/

Hillary was just dumb and lacked any amount of empathy.

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