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Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
Bernie Sanders is a good politician. He wants the socialism, like UHC, $15 minimum and ending the prohibition of weed. His messaging toward people of color wasn't good but I hope he fixes that the next time he runs for president.

I think he can be convinced to support a basic income, too. I would really like a basic income for everyone.

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Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

SulphagneSocialist posted:

This is me officially getting on the gently caress Joe Biden train. Bottom floor baby. He's Hillary Clinton with worse positions but he's a creepy white dude who loves to mack on women in public, so him winning would reaffirm everything we think is terrible about America.

yo i've been hating on him since i found out he was in bed with credit cards

yronic heroism posted:

Elizabeth Warren is cool and good. The right is targeting her early which should tell us something. It's bizarre to put all eggs in a 78 year old Bernie basket.

doesn't she support payday loans or some poo poo?

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

Majorian posted:

That was DWS, who really is awful.

oh, right

Kilroy posted:

What the gently caress kind of brain damage is it where people constantly attribute the opposite of a thing to a person and is there some virus we can engineer to neutralize this in the human population?

Maybe democracy isn't such a great idea after all.

i don't think you know what thread you're in

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

This gives me hope that I, a fat neckbearded goon, can walk into the local political arena, say "hey everybody I'm socialist", and have a decent shot at winning.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

VitalSigns posted:

🎶I cried on September Eleventh, as though I'd lost a brother of mine,
And I marched when Bush bombed Baghdad, his great international crime,
But those Yemeni kids got what was comin', they got what they asked for this time!

Love me love me love me, I'm a liberal.

I cheered when Obama was chosen, my faith in the system restored
And I'll never forgive old Ralph Nader for stealing two thousand from Gore.
If I can look up to the White House, then I don't see what's wrong with the wars

So love me love me🎵, etc etc

want a full version of this someday

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

WampaLord posted:

It's not just about her wishes.

this sounds hella sketchy

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
Now imagine if he hover handed instead.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
you guys eat food the nazis ate

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

Rent-A-Cop posted:

Galaxy Brain Democrat: Maybe rape is ok???

Universe Brain: Rape is ok if the intent is for a joke and not for sexual gratification or dominance.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
It's appropriate. This is the thunderdome thread afterall.

Two men enter, one man leaves.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

Koalas March posted:

omg quote is not edit, gently caress me

if you're ever de-moded it'll be for doing this.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
More importantly, I think Bernie has learned what went wrong with his messaging to people of color. It was embarrassingly bad in the '16 primary, and yet younger people of color basically forgave him for it. That's amazing in itself. He's going to fix that messaging this time, and combined with what we now know of america's distaste for Hillary and centrists in general, he's going to have some serious momentum. Not even the DNC rigging the system will slow him down.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
A man, who needs to ration his walmart brand insulin vials because the only health care he can afford has huge out of pocket deductibles, briefly scans his voter's pamphlet, his hand shaking from the hypoglycemia taking hold. Democrats he's never heard of fill the list, each making fig-leaf promises to make health care affordable, but Bernie Sanders stands out, offering a single payer solution that makes health care accessible to everyone. In a bout of dizziness and sweat, he takes his time to carefully turn the page without dropping or ripping the pamphlet. A grimace contorts his face when he scans Bernie's brief profile.

"Nah, too old."

He marks the spot on his ballot for Hillary Clinton, the only other name in politics he knows of in the past 40 years of his existence. The damp absentee ballot crumbles as he jams it into the envelope. He grips his chest tightly as he makes the long walk to his mailbox. Each step gets heavier and heavier, and just as the mailbox is within his sight, a terrible pain grips his entire body. He hits the ground with a thud, his balled up ballot gently rolling down his gravel driveway. As daylight turns to darkness, his last thoughts are of his car, a weathered and rusted pontiac firebird he left sitting in the front yard. "It only needs a tune-up" he murmurs, before the last ray of light leaves his eyes.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
If the internal division is great enough, it is worth bucking the general for another candidate.

If your only choice left is two flavors of evil, it makes sense to deny both in favor of a good, even if it means the most evil wins. Choosing the lesser evil does not make them the good option.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

Condiv posted:

The thing about McGovern that is always ignored in favor of a “the left can’t win” narrative is the fact that McGovern was stabbed in the back by his own party. The centrists in the dem party actually rebelled and advocated for people to vote for nixon.

I expect the same will happen if bernie wins the nom in 2020, and if the centrists successfully ratfuck him and get a republican in you can count on another 30 years of “the left can’t win when we betray them to side with the far right

Now imagine, after all this build-up about Trump's ties with russia and so on, suddenly eating the world's hugest pile of poo poo as they support him over Sanders.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
The +2 favorability to UBI among the white working class is a good sign, I think. Even if it's part of a margin for error, I expected that to be heavy negative.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
well now I'm wondering how many goons have heard of an ice cream social.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
I personally have trouble reading PJ's word salad and rely on the kindness of goons to simplify her arguments.

Also I'm not sure how much credit she should get for predicting the rise of the alt-right when I've been occasionally reading 4chan's /pol/ since Obama was elected and saw them form in real time. Like, it was really obvious. It's like pointing out an acorn properly planted would grow into a tree.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

Lapua posted:

Of all those Dems who support universal health care, how many understand that America can't afford it. 22 trillion in debt, Social security going bust in 30 years, tell me where does the money come from to fund this?

I haven't seen the "social security going bust in x decades" argument in years, thanks for the nostalgia.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

EdithUpwards posted:

America deserved 9/11. If you can't accept this fact and keep it in focus you stop being a living human being and become something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh3N63QdSw0

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
The trick to avoiding being purged is to not post in the trump thread, I feel. I don't even recommend reading it.

But by all means post here. Centrist dems suck balls, socialists kick rear end.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
As a budding socialist I consider this thread good.

Hell, even the main USPOL thread is kinda good.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
It seems absurd to hold accountable large swaths of voters over a 16 year gap. So much has changed between then and now.

Also, it was the supreme court that helped Bush win. They knew exactly what would happen. They get the blame for doing this to themselves.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
I think not talking about the shooting in the uspol thread was a good thing, because the gun control debate tends to override whatever other discussions were being had and gets incredibly messy every single time.

Closing it may or may not have been a good decision, but it depends on where the future of this thread and the trump thread goes. I will probably never step foot in the trump thread because no matter how well it's moderated, there are simply too many posts about the same things every day that it makes it hard to read. Getting people to post less in it has not been something any moderator has attempted to address.

I'm in favor of renaming this thread as the socialist thread, because that's the umbrella most of us operate under here.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

WampaLord posted:

It was fun watching them flip from "fine, we don't need your worthless lefty votes" to "you loving lefties and your purity tests costs us the election!"

It's also fun watching them flip out because approximately 5-10 posters have said that they're not going to vote and therefore the Blue Wave is lost.

I don't remember the "we don't need your votes" lasting that long, it was after the primary they were already heavily leaning on the "you loving lefties" just out of sheer gamesmanship. Because politics is about the winning team rubbing it in the faces of the losing team, not about making the country better.

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Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

LeoMarr posted:

Remember folks bush was called monkey looooong before obama was even an idea in the dem hivemind

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgO1LUijb0k

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