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The take making the rounds amongst centrists is basically comparing Syria to Iraq and saying that invading Iraq made it a better place
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The only way you win FL is by energizing the left bc anyone right of well-meaning-but-ignorant liberal is a chud ghoul around here
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Skex posted:
Source your quotes I loving love it when these Smartest Minds In The Room turn out be totally loving politically illiterate why should we listen to you when you're showing us how dumb you are You say "ideal vs current Democrats" as if any leftist agrees with Liberal ideology. These aren't matters of purity, anyone on the left has irreconcilable disagreements with liberals, as if our ideologies are mutually exclusive. Phi230 fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Oct 12, 2018 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Under this plan of "incrementalism now, incrementalism tomorrow, incrementalism forever" how many years do you ballpark it would take to completely transform the economy, destroying ~1/3-1/2 of it, and remaking the remainder into a new globally compliant system? Neoliberalism by 2040!
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Nanomashoes posted:Universal healthcare is above 50% popularity in like every state so why cant dems run on it, even in conservative states? The secret is that Dems are ideologically driven to not support Universal Healthcare
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:ah-ah-ah, Skex. dodging the question. what do we say about vote-splitters. Come 2020 Skex is gonna bitch and moan about how leftists made him vote for Trump
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, that's all fair. There are a very few Democrats that do seem to get this (AOC, to a lesser extent Beto), but most of the establishment democrats and almost all Democrats over age 50 still give every appearance of just not caring that much about actually winning races; the most charitable interpretation is that they're all still mentally locked in the Reagan Era and the much more probable explanation is that they're interested in lining their own pockets.At the broader systemic level yes absolutely progressives and socialists need to be running for office and winning primaries by taking the heads of establishment dinosaurs. AOC is a great potential model and the various groups backing her have shown us how that can be done. Its all nice and fun to talk about voter suppression in an abstract way such that you can "leap over the hurdles anyway" as if its that easy. Voter suppression works, if it were as easy as you say then voter suppression wouldn't work.
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On the contrary, neolib Democrats create conditions for fascism to rise and when it does, they collaborate with it and generally refuse to fight it in any meaningful way so lesser evilism really is a matter of fascism now or later. Of course, the liberals in this sub forum are so dedicated to bourgeois democracy they will refuse to acknowledge any other way to do politics and choose "fascism later" every time rather than meaningfully change things so they dont have to make that choice
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Oct 13, 2018 18:52
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Absurd Alhazred posted:So a Lost Cause of the Clintoncracy warrior, then. Also her posting is very representative of where white + middle/upper class liberals are at
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Oct 20, 2018 22:09
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WampaLord posted:And whooooo boy do they loving hate Bernie. If anybody left of ronnie raygun wins the nomination, they're all defecting to Trunp or yet unnamed centrist saboteur
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Oct 20, 2018 22:23
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In 2 years time I have no doubt that the white liberal/suburban liberal discourse is gonna be "we need to work with trump against the dangerous left"
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Oct 20, 2018 22:27
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Fulchrum posted:Those judges clearly have your vote too, since you desperately, desperately want to reward the Republican party for putting Kavanaugh on the court. you actually are supporting the man who did vote for kav though
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Oct 21, 2018 23:57
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the deciding vote, even
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Oct 21, 2018 23:58
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I think Fulchrum and everyone like him should uh, gently caress off and die (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 22, 2018 03:45
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There is no such thing as a compassionate conservative.
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Oct 29, 2018 18:46
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Ardennes posted:He is an openly gay member of PSOL, so almost certainly a target. The question is how willing Bolsonaro is willing to go a couple with such a high international profile. There won't be any repercussions because American media, elite liberals, conservatives, et al would be happy if Greenwald was dead.
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Not a Step posted:Is there a mandatory spine removal procedure you have to undergo to get into liberal leadership? Because these takes are real bad Its called being rich, white, and suburban
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Nov 4, 2018 22:31
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sexpig by night posted:I think Kemp's just a piece of poo poo, we shouldn't ascribe Russia to all our lovely actors. He doesn't need any outside support to be a power hungry psycho I think ascribing every Nazi and Reactionary in America to a Russian Puppetmaster is incredibly dangerous
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Nov 5, 2018 00:39
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Gillum's defeat proves hillary is the kiss of death
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I was super owned by polls and blind optimism but I did notice something similar to 2016 in that nobody had gillum yardsigns up like nobody had hillary signs up so shrug
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