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axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Please listen to this while reading for the true October chat thread experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6fLaUgLHTY


Okay everybody, I see them too, but just don't make any sudden movements and don't look away from the thread and you should be fine.

Here is a an incomplete list containing Mario Odyssey and a bunch of other games coming out in October that don't really matter compared to Mario Odyssey.

Oct. 3 – Battle Chasers: Nightwar (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 3 – Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen (PS4, Xbox One)
Oct. 3 – Forza Motorsport 7 (Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 5 – Raiden V: Director’s Cut (PS4)
Oct 5 – A Hat in Time (PC, PS4, Xbox One)
Oct. 6 – Lady Layton: The Millionaire Ariadone’s Conspiracy (3DS)
Oct. 6 – Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser’s Minions (3DS)
Oct. 10 – Cyberdimension Neptunia: 4 Goddesses (PS4)
Oct. 10 – Middle-Earth: Shadow of War (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 10 – Raid: World War II (PS4)
Oct. 10 – Touhou Kobuto V: Burst Battle (PS4, Vita)
Oct. 13 – The Evil Within 2 (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 13 – Fire Emblem Warriors (Switch, 3DS)
Oct. 17 – Etrian Odyssey 5: Beyond the Myth (3DS)
Oct. 17 – GT Sport (PS4)
Oct. 17 – Rogue Trooper Redux (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 17 – South Park: The Fractured But Whole (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 17 – WWE 2K18 (PS4, Xbox One)
Oct. 17 – ELEX (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 20 – Syberia (Switch)
Oct. 24 – Destiny 2 (PC)
Oct. 24 – Just Dance 2018 (PS4, Xbox One, Switch, PC, Wii U, PS3, 360)
Oct. 24 – Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (PS4, Switch, PC)
Oct. 24 – Road Rage (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 24 – Yomawari: Midnight Shadows (PS4, Vita)
Oct. 27 – Super Mario Odyssey (Switch)
Oct. 27 – Assassin’s Creed Origins (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 27 – Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Oct. 31 – Bubsy: The Woolies Strike Back (PS4, PC)

I mean I'm not saying that there aren't other great coming out this months (I can read; I see Bubsy there) but let's not kid ourselves here.

Also the Playstation plus games for the Month are
Metal Gear Solid V, PS4
Amnesia Collection, PS4
Monster Jam Battlegrounds, PS3
Hustle Kings, PS3
Hue, PS Vita (Cross Buy with PS4)
Sky Force Anniversary, PS Vita (Cross Buy with PS4 & PS3)


And the Games with Gold Games are
Xbox One
Gone Home (October 1-31)
The Turing Test (October 16-November 15)
Oxenfree (September GWG available through October 15)
Xbox 360
Rayman 3 HD (October 1-15)
Medal of Honor: Airborne (October 16-31)

Have a spooktacular October and stay safe!




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axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Ghostrock Harm heck

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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I put it up early because making the OP didn't take all that long and I got impatient. :ghost:

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Help Im Alive posted:

I think I'm going to buy a Switch for it next week


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjVmeKWOsEU

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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CJacobs posted:

I am psyched for it because someone offered to buy it for me if I do a full let's play of it after the absolute shitshow that was my LP of the original. I just hope it's funny bad like the original Bubsy is instead of that bland generic ugly kind of bad.

The trailers make it look like a perfectly competent if bland platformer with horrifically annoying voice clips. It reminds me of that new Rocket Knight game that came out last gen (though that didn't have the voice aspect)

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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At the post credit chapter of Gravity Rush 2. Can feel a really stupid twist coming any second now

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Actually my spooky name is Glam Rock Hamhock but written in marker on an otherwise unlabled game you found at a garage sale

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Really Pants posted:

what happens when you play it

It seems like a normal game until BAM hyper realistic hamhock makes you scared yet you still keep playing

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Persona 5 is great but you should play 3 and 4 first because they are also great and you'll miss the stuff the later games add if you go through them backwards.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Olive Garden tonight! posted:

Telling people to play the worse games in a series first so they appreciate the changes in the new games has not ever worked.

I mean, in the case of Persona, it's not so much about appreciating the changes, it's more about being distracted by lacking features. Like if you play them forward, you won't really notice anything wrong but if you play them backwards, all the way things have been streamlined will now stick out be make the game worse than it would otherwise be. It's not about making the later games better but more about making the older games seem better. It helps that the older games are usually way cheaper than the new one.

Unrelated, FINALLY done with Gravity Rush 2 and I'll never post about it again if you don't want me to but here are some final thoughts:

GR2 is aggravating because it has so much going tor it but has such constant and major easily avoidable flaws, that I spent have my time just not having a good time. The main problem, over everything else, is the combat SUCKS. Like, never at any point in the game is it fun at all. In the original it was simplistic and kinda bad but it didn't really get in the way that often. In this it's just constant and terrible. Like the controls never feel any good. Ground combat is the only version you have full control of and that's just mashing square with occasional dodge. Most of the time you can't use ground combat though because enemies are mostly in the air (and it doesn't help that enemies take like 10 times as long to kill with ground combat). I like the flying in this game but it is not precise and air combat expects you to constantly reorients yourself towards constantly moving enemies and it just doesn't work. Your air kicks have lock ons but they miss so often. There's nothing more enraging than losing a fight because you kicked towards a stationary enemy and then, despite the enemy not even moving, you just sail right past him. It doesn't help that enemies seem to attack you with cheap, hard to avoid shots all the time and will sometimes combo knock you over, making it hard to even move. You can also throw stuff at them but if it actually hits them is a crap shoot and it's always hard to tell what can be picked up and what can't.

The bosses are the worst part. None of them are any fun at all. It's just cheap hits, flying around spastically hoping anything will hit. Their life often drains far to slow and it all just feels wonky as gently caress.

New to the game are different styles and this just means rather than having one kind of iffy control scheme, you now have three. The normal one is like it was in the original, there's a floaty one that is WAY too floaty and moving an inch can send you like ten feet. Also it's attacks kind of suck (but it requires you to use it sometimes). There's also a heavy style that sometimes seems to make you move when you don't want to and just generally feels kind of ungainly.

The other major problem with the game is the missions. Once in a while you'll have something fun but more often than not the game just sends you from checkpoint to checkpoint, sometimes waiting a really long time to actually tell you where it wants you to go or, even worse, it will only give you a general area and expect you to find something though it often doesn't even make clear what you're even looking for. This leads to so much time just aimlessly wandering around just hoping that you somehow wander where the game wants you to go or the game will take pity on you and just tell you (which sometimes it never does). There are some more straightforward missions and these are mostly fine but way too much is the wandering around type.

Despite everything, I like this game. It's a bad game but I still can't resist it's charms. The best thing about it is it's presentation. The world is beautiful and it's fun to fly around. The music is great and the characters are charming. Even this isn't without flaws. The story seems to rush from plot point to plot point, just assuming characters are getting to know each other and form connections. So much happens in this games story. There are like three anime seasons in this thing and it just seems to want to get through it as quickly as possible.

Kat is a really likable character but the plot is odd in that everyone in the game is mostly awful to her, they constantly take advantage of her kindness and people seem to make an odd point to constantly tell Kat she's ugly. This all feels, at best, like an odd direction to take it and at worst like a planned way to endear Kat to the player by making it feel like you are the only one on her side.

Still, while I couldn't recommend this game to anyone, I still sort of enjoyed it and even liked the ending even if it seemed like they were going through a checklist of every anime game ending trope they could think of, even if the game hadn't built up to it that well.

Oh well, at least the one actually has an ending and it being this way makes it so I'm mostly fine with never getting another one.

tl;dr: Gravity Rush 2 gets a 6/10...maybe a 6.5

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axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Real hurthling! posted:

I respect your opinion on playing series but for me i'd just play the player friendliest one first and not get anal about it.

It's not that the other game are user unfriendly, it's they seem worse if you play the later ones first. You will only really notice them as being particularly user unfriendly if you play them backwards.

I just think with Persona, if you end up liking 5, you'll probably like 3/4 and if you don't like 3/4 you probably won't like 5, so it doesn't hurt to dip your toes with the earlier ones.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Real hurthling! posted:

Yeah but not everyone wants to play 140 hrs of jrpgs before playing the one that everyone is talking about this year.

If someone really loves p5 they will probably enjoy checking out older games anyway. Like maybe your brain has you in a prison

Fair enough.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Olive Garden tonight! posted:

If they seem worse it's because they probably are. If you get into the series as a result of playing the new one go ahead and play the old ones because you might like them too.

If you want someone to have a good first impression of a series don't tell them to play the worse ones before playing the best one.

I have no opinion regarding how good Persona 5/4/3 is compared to the other ones. I'm stating this regardless of series.

I mean, I'm saying this not regardless of series but rather I'm taking specifically about Persona because they're all really good and they all have their ups and downs regardless of which you play first. I'm not saying this as something general, I'm saying this in regards to Persona. Like the things that will draw you in are present in all the games and the things that will push you away are either in all the games or really all that noticeable if you play the newer ones first.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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All that being said, my next game will probably be Tales of Berseria despite never having played a Tales game before so maybe I'm just a huge hypocrite

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Real hurthling! posted:

There are so many bad tales games

Is Berseria one of them?

I have to level with you, I got it because I was told that the main character was just an angry rear end in a top hat that doesn't have time for all the dumb anime bullshit happening around her and that is very appealing to me, especially after just having gone though GR2

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Well my impression want that she was angry at anime bullshit, just that anime bullshit keeps trying to happen and she has no time for it over killing people.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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doingitwrong posted:

It’s one of the interesting problems of game series with strong stories. Generally, stories are best experienced in order. Like, with most books and movies you generally want to start with the first one. But games are also software. And software tends to get better over time. Most games are standalone enough and the references or emotional strength of moment you might miss by jumping into the middle are probably out weighed by better combat/QoL etc. but it is definitely a trade off.

For me, your advice is probably the right advice 100% of the time, I just don’t want to spend 300 hours on older games to fully experience the latest in a series. So I’ll spoil the older games and jump in to the new one. And then probably not play it to the ending anyway.

Persona 3/4/5 only make payment references to each other at most, so that's not even the reason and really while I have been advocating playing them order, it's still fine. On the other hand reading a synopsis of 3/4 in preparation for 5 would be a really dumb idea because there no reason to do that and if you do find you want to try going back, you've now just spoiled the plot for no good reason.

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homeless snail posted:

yeah, theres also the part in p3p where you meet vincent from catherine, so the preferred persona play order is actually catherine -> persona 3 fes -> persona 3 portable -> persona 4 -> persona 4 arena -> persona 4 dancing all night -> persona 4 arena ultimax -> persona 5

Don't you meet Yukiko in P3P?

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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CommissarMega posted:

I like anime, I like anime games, and I want more Neptunia in my life because you're just not living if you don't rep the Nep.

I think a new Neptunia is coming out this month

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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If I was a mod I'd use that power in this thread to randomly add boos to people's posts

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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DLC Inc posted:

wow Assassin's Creed comes out the same loving day as Wolfenstein and Mario? This is practically assisted suicide

It's a loaded day but all the games are different enough and appeal to different enough audiences that they all have a chance of doing fine.

Depressingly AC will probably do better than Wolfenstein

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

both look genuinly good and piss off the alt right. Wolfenstein will sell a ton on pc and digital probably because new order was amazing and well loved and people really want to hurt nazis right now.

While New Order was well loved I think it also didn't think it did huge numbers, at least not AC/Mario numbers

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Oct 18, 2006

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A. Beaverhausen posted:

I want a Victorian lady assassin. Debutant by day, killer by might.

Didn't the Vita one sort of have that?

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Okami would probably be my perfect game because I like everything about it, including the stuff other people complain about. I like the opening story, I like Issun, I like the combat and I like how long the game goes on.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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To ask the thread a similar question: are there any pays of a game you love that other people seem to hate?

Like, for example, one of my favorite parts of Gunstar Heroes is the dice maze and I was really surprised to find out years later on the internet that people apparently hate that part and consider it a flaw in an otherwise perfect game.

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Oct 18, 2006

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If the dice maze isn't a good enough explore due to not believing people actually don't like it, I'll add that I really like the climbing in the Uncharted games. I know it's a bit mindless and simplified but I find it oddly exilerating

I also really liked the opening of Yakuza 3 when your basically just running the orphanage

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Oh, I also love the Assault maps in Overwatch and like them way more than the escort maps

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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In Training posted:

I like that modes and maps rotate every 2 hours in Splatoon. But Moray Towers should be deleted from the game

I like that stage in concept, but yeah, the actual tower part really drags the level down. It takes way too long to get into the action

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Journey is amazingly great but it loses so so so much if you don't encounter anyone online and for that I can't call it perfect.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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PantsBandit posted:

Does this happen though? I played it recently and even this many years after release I had multiple people crop up in my game.

I replayed it like a month ago and only got like one dude who seemed to be afk.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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I got Splasher because it just came out on PSN last week. It''s really god drat good and I'm surprised more people don't talk about it. Maybe it really falls apart further in

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Quest For Glory II posted:

I only played a small preview beta in 2016 but it was very good. It's by the designer of Rayman Legends so naturally the level design and mechanics are fantastic

Yeah, it has that smooth modern Rayman feel. So far it seems like the perfect mix of Meat Boy, the paint part of Portal 2, with some Splatoon in they're as well. The worst thing about it is it looks like a Newgrounds game but that's pretty easy to get over.

axelblaze
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al-azad posted:

If it was easy you'd beat it in a rental period and that would make Konami sad.

Dynamite Heady was Treasure (and Sega I think), not Konami. In fact treasure was mostly made up of ex-konami people.

It was still probably made harder for rental reasons though because the US version was inexplicably made harder.

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Oct 18, 2006

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Hearing that Ruiner doesn't have instant restart honestly makes me glad I waited rather than get swept up by the hype.

Really, if you're making a game, cutting down restart times should be pretty high on your priorities list, especially if your trying to make something hard as hell. Gravity Rush 2 was neither that hard, nor were the loading times that long but the 5 seconds it took to reset you still got really annoying after awhile

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Oct 18, 2006

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Blade Runner was a real cool game, even if one if the endings was pretty creepy

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Edit: misread

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I really don't care if game creators are douchebags as long as it doesn't show up in the game.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Lizard Wizard posted:

Shadow the Hedgehog: 1 character

While you only played Shadow you got a crap ton of partner characters throughout the game.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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CJacobs posted:

Splat2n players want to destroy Pearl, not Marina

That depends on how you're defining "destroy"

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Oct 18, 2006

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OneDeadman posted:

A literally ancient webcomic. I think it started around the time of NeoTokyo

To expand more it's an ancient webcomic by a goon that went unfinished because the creator went to school and then went on to work on Venture Brothers and Adventure Time and then went on to co-create Steven Universe and then his own thing recently. That panel is him going back and actually finishing the comic

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