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Guavanaut posted:CAPITALISM IN CRISIS - NIGEL SLATER'S AUTUMN VEGETABLE SOUP. The Allotment Plot.
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Guavanaut posted:CAPITALISM IN CRISIS - NIGEL SLATER'S AUTUMN VEGETABLE SOUP. Do you put the exclusive extract of Lou Reed in the autumn soup?
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Oct 1, 2017 11:26
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OwlFancier posted:Do you put the exclusive extract of Lou Reed in the autumn soup?
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Oct 1, 2017 11:48
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great look for the spanish government this https://twitter.com/Jane_Samuels/status/914444724135763968 https://twitter.com/nirwin9x/status...23post476939814
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Oct 1, 2017 12:02
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You'd think of all the governments in the world, the Spanish in particular would know by now how to deal with regions demanding independence. This is not the way at all.
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Oct 1, 2017 12:04
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next el classico gonna be v. spicy
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Oct 1, 2017 12:06
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This is not just the mask slipping anymore, they're throwing it away jfc.
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Oct 1, 2017 12:10
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Nicely spooply OP Ghoulvanaut  jabby posted:May just had a pretty bad interview on Marr. I still find it hard to believe that in every single instance, May has chosen the single worst mode of action possible - anything that gets rid of the Tories quicker is good in my opinion, of course - but the constant gently caress-ups, U-turns, and shallow attempts to rectify their gently caress-ups and U-turns...it's a glorious trainwreck  JeremoudCorbynejad posted:My my what's that in the corner Oh yeah that's the stuff - right into my veins.  goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/914149368479043584 "Allow your child to grow-up to be a egotistical sociopathic twat, to avoid the tiny terror of microcommunism (AKA what normies call the strange custom of "sharing", and "not being a twat)". Also, following the extract from Zephro, The Egg is very concerned; quote:He comes very close to suggesting the Tories are losing touch with them and clearly fears that Jeremy Corbyn’s anti-capitalist rhetoric may be striking a chord. “Let’s say they were teenagers in the financial crisis 10 years ago and now they are starting to vote. Their political consciousness is maybe [emerging] during the time of the financial crisis and they hear a lot of negative stuff about the banking system and markets, and all of a sudden they are told nationalisation is the answer. They don’t remember or relate to what happened in the 1970s.”
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Oct 1, 2017 12:18
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I'm excited for Catalonia's entry in Eurovision next year
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Oct 1, 2017 12:19
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Rarity posted:I'm excited for Catalonia's entry in Eurovision next year it's going to be interesting watching the Spanish entry start beating them up mid-song
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Oct 1, 2017 12:24
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Jose posted:great look for the spanish government this Jesus loving christ the spanish government watched trumps efforts to forment a civil war and were like sostenga mi cerveza amigo, tengo esto
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Oct 1, 2017 12:26
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So when May was challenged about the pound dropping on her watch, she said a real 'run on the pound' means people queuing up to take their money out of banks. Is that right? I thought a run on the pound was something involving international currency markets. Why would people taking their money out of banks have anything to do with the value of the pound?
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Oct 1, 2017 12:26
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Has she confused it with a run on the banks?
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Oct 1, 2017 12:28
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Pesky Splinter posted:I still find it hard to believe that in every single instance, May has chosen the single worst mode of action possible - anything that gets rid of the Tories quicker is good in my opinion, of course - but the constant gently caress-ups, U-turns, and shallow attempts to rectify their gently caress-ups and U-turns...it's a glorious trainwreck
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Oct 1, 2017 12:29
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Jose posted:great look for the spanish government this God, imagine the state Spain would be in if every single fascist didn't coincidentally die on the exact same day Franco did. It'd be even worse had that not happened.
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Oct 1, 2017 12:31
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jabby posted:So when May was challenged about the pound dropping on her watch, she said a real 'run on the pound' means people queuing up to take their money out of banks. What May's talking about would be a run on the banks, which isn't the same thing at all.
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Oct 1, 2017 12:31
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limited posted:I imagine their latest masterstroke to freeze tuition isn't having much effect because the fees are already loving insane. Freezing them won't do poo poo. The whole idea is a lazy attempt at best. Easy to one-up by just suggesting to actually lower fees, even by a minor amount. Or by abolishing them, which already is Labour policy.
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Oct 1, 2017 12:32
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the last time someone tried to convince students they were going to abolish tuition fees, tuition fees ended up increasing, so logically if someone says they're going to freeze tuition fees that means they're going to increase them even more. If someone ever promises to actively give money to students then maybe that might mean they go down a bit, depending on how strongly the balance of power shakes out
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Oct 1, 2017 12:32
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Spain should learn from the UK in referendum rigging. You only need a couple months of national broadcaster TV bias before the vote. This throwing people down stairs and stamping on their faces thing is never gonna work.
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Oct 1, 2017 12:34
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spain should just have put some big numbers on some buses and driven them around for a bit, that seems to do the trick
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Oct 1, 2017 12:36
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Angepain posted:spain should just have put some big numbers on some buses and driven them around for a bit, that seems to do the trick It's like they've never even heard of "retomar el control".
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Oct 1, 2017 12:38
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Freezing fees is pointless. Makes no difference whether you nominally paid £9250 or 2% more to the bulk of graduates who’ll never pay off in full. And only a difference to the remainder in either a couple of decades, or sooner if they’re amongst the very richest. It’s just another real terms cut to uni funding. Just what’s needed. On the other hand raising the payment threshold will actually benefit anyone except the shittiest paid already not earning above £20k. And actually what Osbourne & Cable promised when the £9k fees came in. So a u-turn of a u-turn 
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Oct 1, 2017 12:40
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jabby posted:So when May was challenged about the pound dropping on her watch, she said a real 'run on the pound' means people queuing up to take their money out of banks. That's a run on the banks, when people lose faith in their ability to store money for them and try to take it out. A run on the pound would presumably be when people lose faith in the pound as a reliable store of international value and start trying to sell it. Which, uh...
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Oct 1, 2017 12:41
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:It's like they've never even heard of "retomar el control". What they needed was to launch a "Juntos, más fuertes" campaign, saying that if Catalonia left Spain, they'd lose their place in the EU. Then, after they vote to stay in Spain, immediately launch a referendum for Spain to leave the EU.
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Oct 1, 2017 12:45
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OwlFancier posted:That's a run on the banks, when people lose faith in their ability to store money for them and try to take it out. A run on the pound would presumably be when people lose faith in the pound as a reliable store of international value and start trying to sell it. Which, uh... Bitcoin: Any Day Now
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Oct 1, 2017 12:45
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jabby posted:May just had a pretty bad interview on Marr. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-41459686/theresa-may-cabinet-is-united-in-mission-of-this-government
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Oct 1, 2017 12:45
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How is the Spanish reaction to the Catalan Independence vote a surprise? With how the Spanish can on one hand demand Gibraltar back and with a straight face think Ceuta and Melilla is fine shows a massive level of cognitive dissonance or straight colonialist arrogance. Add in the legacy of the old Franco fascism that has never been delt with on a national level and you have a recipe for state violence.
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Oct 1, 2017 12:48
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serious gaylord posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-41459686/theresa-may-cabinet-is-united-in-mission-of-this-government The government has a mission? Other than possibly remaining a government?
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Oct 1, 2017 12:48
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Angepain posted:The government has a mission? Other than possibly remaining a government? Mission Statement: Everything Not Nailed Down
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Oct 1, 2017 12:50
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The problem for the Spanish government is that they kept telling people against independence not to vote, thus assuring independence would win despite only having ~30% popularity among Catalans before. And then the Catalan regional government said they would declare independence regardless of how legitimate it was. So yea they hosed it up. But their only real option is to try to delegitimise it further, any way they can. E: To be fair the "nobody vote" tactics worked once before already, there was another referendum a few years ago that was declared void because of only 37% voting participation (with 80% for independence) Private Speech fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Oct 1, 2017 |
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Oct 1, 2017 12:54
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Foxtrot_13 posted:How is the Spanish reaction to the Catalan Independence vote a surprise? But you see these little cities on a completely different continent are totally an integral part of Europe and furthermore *faaaaaart*
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Oct 1, 2017 12:57
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Private Speech posted:The problem for the Spanish government is that they kept telling people against independence not to vote, thus assuring independence would win despite only having ~30% popularity among Catalans before. And then the Catalan regional government said they would declare independence regardless of how legitimate it was. The way you delegitimise a referendum is put a minimum turnout requirement for it, since anything above 80% or so turnout is a rare enough event in western politics that it'd only be reached if it was already over. The way you give it legitimacy is by literally attacking people voting for self determination. All they've done is guaranteed violence against the police will happen and be well supported by the public. TinTower posted:But you see these little cities on a completely different continent are totally an integral part of Europe and furthermore *faaaaaart* Cueta and Melilla have an incredibly high density of banks, and it is vital for Spanish politicians to keep them so as not to lose the drug money they skim from one of the busiest routes into Europe.
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Oct 1, 2017 13:05
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Damien Green posted:You had a Conservative Prime Minister stand on the steps of Downing Street and say: "There are burning injustices in this country that I want to deal with". People thought that was surprising. When you tacitly admit your party has never given a poo poo about injustice and everybody knows it. OwlFancier posted:That's a run on the banks, when people lose faith in their ability to store money for them and try to take it out. A run on the pound would presumably be when people lose faith in the pound as a reliable store of international value and start trying to sell it. Which, uh... That's what I thought at the time, I was just surprised nobody seemed to pick up on the fact that May apparently doesn't know what a run on the pound is. jabby fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Oct 1, 2017 |
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Oct 1, 2017 13:08
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jabby posted:That's what I thought at the time, I was just surprised nobody seemed to pick up on the fact that May apparently doesn't know what a run on the pound is. She knows, Marr was just hammering her and she needed to spin it hard
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Oct 1, 2017 13:14
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https://twitter.com/CataloniaHelp2/status/914131859654639616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Oct 1, 2017 13:14
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:My my what's that in the corner Nice. Lou Reed is so cool. Thanks Ants posted:Yeah that will definitely make the people calling for independence give up on their ambitions. The Spanish government have handled this in the worst way possible. They really should have looked at how the British government handled the Scottish indyref. In a legal referendum held now, without all these shenanigans from the Madrid government, No would win & Catalunya would stay part of Spain. Instead they've just done the pro-indy movement a massive favour. jabby posted:So when May was challenged about the pound dropping on her watch, she said a real 'run on the pound' means people queuing up to take their money out of banks. Holy poo poo, our Prime Minister is a loving moron. Spain sure has done a lovely job of confronting it's fascist past. What a surprise that this had consequences.
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Oct 1, 2017 13:17
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Spangly A posted:The way you delegitimise a referendum is put a minimum turnout requirement for it, since anything above 80% or so turnout is a rare enough event in western politics that it'd only be reached if it was already over. That's what they did in 2014 and prob. wanted to do now again. So yeah they hosed up in a major way. Catalonian independence would be kinda cool though.
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Oct 1, 2017 13:19
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baka kaba posted:She knows, Marr was just hammering her and she needed to spin it hard She might not know - she's famously not very smart.
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Oct 1, 2017 13:19
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From Grauniad live feed;quote:Damian Green, the first secretary of state, claimed this morning that Theresa May could lead the party into the next election. 
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Oct 1, 2017 13:21
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Foxtrot_13 posted:With how the Spanish can on one hand demand Gibraltar back and with a straight face think Ceuta and Melilla is fine shows a massive level of cognitive dissonance or straight colonialist arrogance. Everyone winds up roughly equal, borders are nicer, everyone still probably pissed off.
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