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Magnetic North posted:Unless you think the ratings drop is caused by the lack of competition causing games to be more often bad than good. I don't necessarily believe that, but it's possible. The ratings drop is caused by a lot of things it seems. Cord-cutting and streaming are the old stand-bys, but now you're adding in protests (and protests against protests), and just a general drop in interest because the overall level of play seems to be falling.
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I don't think even the Chargers will be able to lose to the Browns this time
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the Browns could put up a hundred on the Giants.
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Armitage posted:the Browns could put up a hundred on the Giants. Kizer couldn't. Hogan might do 20. If Myles isn't on the field the Browns couldn't cover a flea.
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Elephanthead posted:So 3 survived? Yep. Think it might be time for me to write up an effortpost.
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Denver's coming off a bye and host the Giants this upcoming Sunday night. Get the 6 ready
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Kizer couldn't. Hogan might do 20. The Browns would rack up like 600 yards of offense and turn the ball over int he red zone 8 times
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Taking the template from my 19-0/0-16 thread last season. Please feel free to put this in the OP, I'll try and update every week. 19-0 Contenders As Of The End of Week 5 Kansas City Chiefs  Next Opponent: Steelers 0-16 Contenders As Of The End of Week 5 Cleveland Browns (again)  Next Opponent: @Texans San Francisco 49ers  Next Opponent: @Washington New York Giants  Next Opponent: @Broncos Week 5 19-0 Chase Commentary Unlike last year, we only have one real contender this year and it's the Chiefs. Through 5 weeks they've faced (and beaten) the Pats (in Foxboro!), the Eagles, the Chargers, Washington and now Houston. The biggest obstacle to a perfect season for the Chiefs is now the Broncos, ironically one of our last-standing undefeated teams last year. The Chiefs take on the Steelers in Pittsburgh this week. Normally, this would be a game that you'd think the Chiefs would be primed to lose, but uh, the Steelers just threw 6 interceptions against the Jaguars. They're gonna need all the luck they can get against Alex Smith this week.  Upcoming Games: Steelers @ Chiefs Week 5 0-16 Chase Commentary Oh god. Oh goddddddddd. Ohhhhhhhhh man. These teams are ugly this year. I think we might actually see it folks. We might see the first year the 2008 Detroit Lions don't have to drink rainwater out of a shoe when the last winless team gets a win. This time last year it was just down to the Browns. This year? This year we've got not one, not two but three putrid teams vying for your affection. Let's meet our contestants! Our first contestant is our old friend the Cleveland Browns.  It feels really bad seeing them back here again but welp, they are. Good news for the Browns though! This year's schedule is a lot easi- oh come on! Other than the game against the Bears do you guys see any wins here? I'd point to the Jaguars game but unfortunately it's in an odd week so they'll win 64-3 or something like that. Yikes. Our next contestant is another old bottom-dwelling pal, the San Francisco 49ers. Hi guys! How's Levi Stadium treating you? Oh. Not great? Er, well Jed York is a...oh. Still an rear end in a top hat then. Uh at least you've got uh.....Carlos Hyde? Yeah I dunno. This is a franchise devoid of hope. Let's take a look at the schedule and see if any hope is coming:  Hmm... Maybe Week 9 against the Cardinals? The last game was pretty close and the Cards aren't looking too hot. Maybe the Bears game if the wheels continue to ineffectively spin up there. Of course there is one game that looms very large that looks winnable, but I don't want to spoil the introduction for our last contestant. In short, this doesn't seem like a winless team so I expect they won't be spending too much time here. And finally our last contestant. The contestant that I think might just stun us all. Yes I'm talking about the New York Giants. They've lost Odell Beckham Jr for the year on an absolutely horrific leg injury, another 3 WRs are injured, the line can't block and the defense can't seem to get off the field despite a good d-line. The only thing this team seems to be able to do well is find new and excruciating ways to lose. Week 1 it was a classic Giants/Cowboys loss that came down to the wire. Week 2 was getting smashed by the Lions. Week 3 had them lose on the longest FG in their opponent's history after managing a 14 point comeback. Week 4 had them lose a game where their opponent was all but begging them to win. And Week 5 saw everyone but Eli get hurt. Sorry Giants . Maybe there's some hope on the horizon? NOPE The only possible win I see on here is maybe against the Niners and I honestly think the Niners have a much, much better chance than the Giants. The next two weeks are going to see them get vaporized by the Broncos and Seahawks. This team is all the things you don't want to be: old, injured, demoralized and just listless all-around. Woof. Upcoming Games: Browns @ Texans Niners @ Washington Giants @ Broncos axeil fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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Giants will win at least 1 division game because NFCE clownball
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axeil posted:So much effort Stolen with some minor improvements because gently caress your faith in analytics.
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Why isn't this called the Matt Millen Trophy
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Stolen with some minor improvements because gently caress your faith in analytics. Analytics > All  Thanks for including it! axeil fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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The Steelers owned the Chiefs their last 2 meetings. They had no answer for Le'Veon either time, and didn't get any better at stopping the run. AB is not a good matchup for Peters, and even when Landry Jones was throwing to him in 2015, Peters didn't have a good day. That said, I suspect the Steelers lovely play may get worse before it gets better, and they're probably gonna get mudstomped
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The Giants are shaping up to be a big test of my "the 08 Lions were a bad team that had even worse luck" theory. I maintain that 0-16 is only possible with a lot of (bad) luck and boy are they bringing it in that regard. If they do win a game this year it's going to be an extremely funny one to watch.
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The Browns probably have no realistic shot against the Texans. Even with all their injuries, Watson is explosive enough to score more then the Browns can. They have the most awful red zone offense I can recall and skill position players that aren't exactly likely to break plays. If Mariota is out two more games they at least have a puncher's chance against the Titans. The 49ers probably lose out until they host the Cardinals or the following week against the Giants. Those are going to be two awful, awful loving games. The Giants probably win a game or two somewhere, but with their injuries and offensive line, I don't see how you could expect them to do anything ever.
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Kalli posted:The Browns probably have no realistic shot against the Texans. Even with all their injuries, Watson is explosive enough to score more then the Browns can. They have the most awful red zone offense I can recall and skill position players that aren't exactly likely to break plays. The real tell will be if we get to about Thanksgiving with any teams still winless. I think the Browns only managed to win a game in Week 15 last year but you could look at their schedule and see their December was pretty easy. This time around I'd argue that all 3 contenders have their best shots at a win in October and November.
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The thing with the 49ers is that they have played a lot of close games that ended up going the wrong way at the last minute. Other than being destroyed by the Panthers, they have lost every game by three or fewer points, including three away games with two overtime defeats. Obviously you don't have a good team on your hands if you lose to the 2017 Colts, but as things stand I think they have a somewhat achievable shot at winning in more than a few games.
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King Hong Kong posted:The thing with the 49ers is that they have played a lot of close games that ended up going the wrong way at the last minute. Other than being destroyed by the Panthers, they have lost every game by three or fewer points, including three away games with two overtime defeats. Obviously you don't have a good team on your hands if you lose to the 2017 Colts, but as things stand I think they have a somewhat achievable shot at winning in more than a few games. Yeah, it's surprisingly loving difficult to lose 16 games. There's a reason 0-16 has happened exactly as many times as 16-0.
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giants will beat the 49ers, 49ers and browns will beat the bears, all 4 teams will finish 1-15
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mastershakeman posted:giants will beat the 49ers, 49ers and browns will beat the bears, all 4 teams will finish 1-15 Browns will somehow not get the first pick because of some hilarious tiebreak scenario that involves them scoring a meaningless touchdown in week 17.
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Lote posted:Browns will somehow not get the first pick because of some hilarious tiebreak scenario that involves them scoring a meaningless touchdown in week 17. as if they wouldn't gently caress up the pick anyway
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Did you know? The last time the Browns scored more than 30 points in a game was all the way back in Week 5 of 2015, in an overtime WIN (???) against the Ravens (!!!) JOSH MCCOWN threw for 457 yards that day. You have to go back another whole year to find the next 30+ point game that ended in regulation, shockingly a WIN vs. the Steelers (  ). Brian Hoyer completed almost 50% of his passes but the magic legs of BEN TATE sealed the win.
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Toaster Beef posted:Yeah, it's surprisingly loving difficult to lose 16 games. There's a reason 0-16 has happened exactly as many times as 16-0. Exactly. It takes a lot more than just being bad. Look at just how much poo poo luck it took for the 08 lions. The funny part is that I've seen worse teams that picked up at least one or two wins. I think, for example, that the 2008 Lions would beat the poo poo out of the 2016 Browns. Or 2017 Browns for that matter. E: I mean, even the horrific 1990 Patriots managed to squeak out a narrow win against the Colts. That lovely team didn't even score 200 points in an entire season of football. (For reference, the 08 Lions scored 268) Fenrir fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Oct 13, 2017 |
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Fenrir posted:Exactly. It takes a lot more than just being bad. Look at just how much poo poo luck it took for the 08 lions. The funny part is that I've seen worse teams that picked up at least one or two wins. I think, for example, that the 2008 Lions would beat the poo poo out of the 2016 Browns. Or 2017 Browns for that matter. Didn't that simulator we use have the 2016 Browns obliterating the 2008 Lions?
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Do the Bucs just hilariously lose every game and that's why we don't compare them?
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Lote posted:Do the Bucs just hilariously lose every game and that's why we don't compare them? What do you mean?
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Super Fan posted:What do you mean? He's talking about the 1976 0-14 Bucs
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Alaois posted:He's talking about the 1976 0-14 Bucs 76' Bucs might've been worse, but the 76' Bucs were also an expansion team.
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Browns are going all the way this year
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Chris James 2 posted:Browns are going all the way this year I'm rooting for the niners. Are 49ers and Giants the only mutually exclusive possibility for the season at this point, because I want as many winners as possible.
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Skwirl posted:I'm rooting for the niners. Browns don't play the 49ers or the Giants, Giants play 49ers but could tie Comedy option is Browns 0-16, 49ers and Giants both 0-15-1
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I'm beginning to think maybe Hue Jackson is Not Good.
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Chris James 2 posted:Browns don't play the 49ers or the Giants, Giants play 49ers but could tie I forgot about the possibility of a tie. I don't care what else happens, I want the 9ers and Giants to finish the season 0-15-1. Or even for them to win a different game and each finish 1-14-1
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Skwirl posted:I forgot about the possibility of a tie. I don't care what else happens, I want the 9ers and Giants to finish the season 0-15-1. Or even for them to win a different game and each finish 1-14-1 Would it have a chance to be the first ever 0-0 final score? Because I'm looking at those offenses and yeesh
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