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This past Saturday marked the 20th anniversary of the release of Fallout 1, the spiritual successor to Wasteland. I was probably 12 or 13 when I read the PC Gamer cover story on fallout and I can still remember how curious and excited I was for its release. Where most cRPGs were dominated by fantasy stories with wizards and kobold dicks, fallout was an entirely new concept in a totally different world that presented a future that was closer to reality than anything I'd ever seen before. I've beaten all of the originals a boatload of times, but its been years since I did full runs. I'm going to play: Fallout Fallout 2 Fallout Tactics ------------- Fallout 3 Maybe New Vegas and 4 if I'm not burned out by then. I'm mostly going to do 3 to highlight the differences between the developers. Tactics gets a bad rap as a fallout game but its actually very well done and I always enjoy playing it. I'm gonna aim for full runs (I could beat 1 in 20 minutes if I wanted to), mostly to see if after 20 years I can discover something I've never seen before. EDIT im not plaYing that loving brotherhood of steel game you cant make me I've already gotten in to fallout 1, heres my dude:  -------- So far: After clearing the rat cave outside of Vault 13, I stole a rope from the Captain of the Guard in Shady Sands and made my way through Vault 15. After finding their water purification system buried under tons of rubble (and getting a sick leather jacket to go with my new 10mm SMG), I returned to shady sands and assisted the guards with the radscorpion invasion. Using some dynamite I found in Vault 15, I sealed the entrance to the cave where the scorpions breed. I met a traveler in Shady Sands named Ian who offered to accompany me for a fee, but I'm short on caps so I guess I'll come back later. 
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Oct 5, 2017 02:20
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I really enjoy how short and to the point Fallout 1 is. Just a nice 10ish hour adventure. Fallout 2 kinda drags on too long imo. Never managed to get into the tactics one, maybe I'll give it another shot now.
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Oct 5, 2017 23:01
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:I met a traveler in Shady Sands named Ian who offered to accompany me for a fee, but I'm short on caps so I guess I'll come back later. My first playthrough i hired this guy, we got into a barfight in town, and he misses an enemy and hits the bartender instead. The whole town turned hostile and i had to kill all the guards to escape and i never went back. Ian died in the barfight but the money i spent on him was worth it for the fun memory
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Oct 5, 2017 23:06
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Ian always gets in the way, so I have a patch that makes me yell at him to move
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Oct 5, 2017 23:06
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Gaffle posted:My first playthrough i hired this guy, we got into a barfight in town, and he misses an enemy and hits the bartender instead. The whole town turned hostile and i had to kill all the guards to escape and i never went back. Ian died in the barfight but the money i spent on him was worth it for the fun memory lol classic ian
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Oct 5, 2017 23:07
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I should really go through the old Fallout games again, too. I never really got into Fallout: Tactics either, but I liked the first two. I also liked how your stats seem to make more of a difference in dialogue, etc. than it does in the Bethesda-era FO games. Like how if you're a burly oaf with zero intelligence, you are completely unable to talk to people (aside from with grunts and guttural noises), but you still have an intimidating presence. (And when people try to get you to do things, they're just like "GO OVER THERE. PICK THAT UP. DO [X]....urgh, Jesus loving Christ, why am I even bothering with this guy..."  )EDIT: Actually, what if you have terrible intelligence, but good charisma/persuasion? I don't think I've ever tried that combination. Like, will people be barely able to understand you, but they like and help you anyway, as they see you as being like, 'that lovable rascal'? Major Isoor fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Oct 6, 2017 00:06
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Glad that Based Todd knows fans don't want any of this crap and added minecraft town building and randomized loot affixes in Fallout 4
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Oct 6, 2017 00:16
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Finished with my business in Shady Sands, I got directions from Ian and headed for Junktown. I went to the General Store and inadvertantly spoiled an assassination attempt on the leader of Junktown. Ive volunteered to catch a local gangster named Gizmo on tape admitting to the crime.  I also got sweet leather armor and a new hunting rifle.  DOGMEAT :3  I secured Gizmo's confession, helped Killian Darkwater 'run him out of town' (murder him), time to check in on Shady Sands Post your predictions for where Dogmeat is going to bite the dust 
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Oct 6, 2017 00:35
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Major Isoor posted:I should really go through the old Fallout games again, too. I never really got into Fallout: Tactics either, but I liked the first two. If your INT is low people will either make fun of you or get frustrated trying to talk to you If you take time to really learn how to play Tactics its a great game and you can handle combat in a ton of different ways.
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Oct 6, 2017 00:38
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A view of the overworld for people who havent played A style of random encounter: If you travel too far without water (or food) in your inventory, you'll get hit with dehydration damage  My return to Shady Sands starts with a cry for help: The Khans, a local raider band, have kidnapped Tandi from the village.  This could get rough. I recruited Ian on my way out for some backup  The leader of the Khans challenged me to a bare-knuckle brawl for Tandi's life.  He beat the poo poo out of me, but I'm not leaving without Tandy. The hunting rifle made quick work of them, and I got some sick metal armor  Aradesh is greatful for his daughter's safe return  Tandy tells me a folk tale about something called a Death Claw from 'down south'  Time to head to The Hub. NOTES - I couldnt find the seed to start the quest for the gang in Junktown so I just skipped it. - I think my science wasn't high enough to teach Shady Sands about crop rotation, or that quest is somewhere else and I just remembered it wrong
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Oct 6, 2017 01:14
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I always wondered if setting the game in a barren wasteland was intentional since they only had to render like 3-4 bushes a screen and call it a day
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Oct 6, 2017 01:21
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Fallout 2's New Reno section was quite the life changing experience. Also, fallout 2238 was loving great. Nasty Old Randy fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Oct 6, 2017 01:24
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yeah im gonna get to all of that later
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Oct 6, 2017 01:25
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I always wondered if setting the game in a barren wasteland was intentional since they only had to render like 3-4 bushes a screen and call it a day The Baldur's Gate maps were way more intricate, I dont think it was a resource issue
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Oct 6, 2017 01:25
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I've arrived at massive trading outpost locals have dubbed 'The Hub'  One of the stranger aspects of the original Fallout is shopping. Some merchants display their entire inventory, others require you 'open' seperate tables or bookshelves around them to initiate a dialogue and see different items  This is the first and one of the only places in the early series where they prevent you from obtaining a quest due to experience. In a series where you can go to the end of the game 5 minutes in if you choose, it always seemed like a strange design decision to me to suddenly limit what you could do  Butch, the owner of Far-Go Traders, has a job for me.  I'm investigating the missing caravans when I hear about the 'Death Claw' for a second time. The lady who runs the gun shop is convinced that it exists, and points me in the direction of the only living witness to the monster.  Some religious weirdos werent very inviting  Finally, a clue: The Water Merchants of The Hub believe the citizens of a place called 'The Necropolis' have a vault-based water purification system. They MUST have a chip!  There's a ton of stuff to do in and around The Hub. We'll be here for a bit
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Oct 6, 2017 02:02
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Nasty Old Randy posted:Fallout 2's New Reno section was quite the life changing experience. Unexpected Raw Anime posted:yeah im gonna get off to all of that later
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Oct 6, 2017 02:12
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My prediction: dogmeat dies in the deathclaw's cave
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Oct 6, 2017 02:47
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Dead Money...........was good.
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Oct 6, 2017 04:09
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what do u think of Chris avellone posting fallout stuff lately? new fallout coming soon?
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Oct 6, 2017 14:43
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chris avellone doesnt work for bethesda.......
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Oct 6, 2017 16:00
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ya but ppl are wondering if he's maybe gonna join a team somewhere and help make a new one either that or he's reminiscing about 20 years of post apocalyptic role playing fun
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Oct 6, 2017 16:11
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after what bethesda did to obsidian i seriously doubt he would ever associate with them again, even for a third party project
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Oct 6, 2017 16:24
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I thought Obsidian was making the next Fallout set in New Orleans or something, I might have made it up
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Oct 6, 2017 16:27
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Jackie D posted:I thought Obsidian was making the next Fallout set in New Orleans or something, I might have made it up yes you did
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Oct 6, 2017 16:39
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I need to ccalm down im getting myself too excited about the prospect of another good 3d fallout
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Oct 6, 2017 16:47
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It was a real rumor because of a trademark but I guess nothing ever came of it, sorry
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Oct 6, 2017 16:53
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i could see bethsoft giving the engine and license over to another team while they work on 900 dollar miniature games, and F2P cash shop stuff layered with pipboy graphics
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Oct 6, 2017 17:04
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sector_corrector posted:i could see bethsoft giving the engine and license over to another team while they work on 900 dollar miniature games, and F2P cash shop stuff layered with pipboy graphics didnt they do one of those for fallout 4
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Oct 6, 2017 17:40
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is this what it feels like to be owned
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Oct 6, 2017 18:09
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Neurotic Roleplay posted:is this what it feels like to be owned Last I heard Bethesda was considering using the team from id that helped them make fallout 4 more like a shooter to turn the ip into a Wolfe stein style shooter
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Oct 6, 2017 18:14
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:after what bethesda did to obsidian i seriously doubt he would ever associate with them again, even for a third party project avallone doesnt work for obsidian anymore and hes done oa bunch of interviews where hes super prissy about them. im sure he doesn't care anymore
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Oct 6, 2017 18:45
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:didnt they do one of those for fallout 4 both, in fact. the miniature game is completely loving insane, and the f2p thing is fallout shelter. i was getting at the idea that i think they're more interested in milking the property than developing new games, and also trying to pretend to be valve with their new mod platform thing.
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Oct 6, 2017 21:35
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sector_corrector posted:both, in fact. the miniature game is completely loving insane, and the f2p thing is fallout shelter. i was getting at the idea that i think they're more interested in milking the property than developing new games, and also trying to pretend to be valve with their new mod platform thing. the next elder scrolls game is just gonna be a bunch of skyrim mods they crowdsource from the mod platform
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Oct 6, 2017 22:35
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:the next elder scrolls game is just gonna be a bunch of skyrim mods they crowdsource from the mod platform i wish that they would just become like valve, and focus on the platform and engine while letting better designers use the tools
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Oct 6, 2017 22:46
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[quote="“sector_corrector”" post="“477128398”"] i wish that they would just become like valve, and focus on the platform and engine while letting better designers use the tools [/quote] Better developers wouldn't use their piece of poo poo engine.
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Oct 6, 2017 22:47
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FactsAreUseless posted:Better developers wouldn't use their piece of poo poo engine. i thought FO4's version of creation was decent, with all of the tweaks valve made
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Oct 6, 2017 23:07
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sector_corrector posted:i thought FO4's version of creation was decent, with all of the tweaks valve made can you elaborate on this
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Oct 7, 2017 03:43
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:can you elaborate on this ID came in and redid a lot of the shooting parts. i think specifically enemy behavior. it made the gunplay feel a lot better compared to fallout 4, although playing new vegas recently it still is worse than that even with a better engine. the current creation engine in the hands of a good dev team would really be enjoyable, i think.
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Oct 7, 2017 04:14
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Does valve own Id now? I'm confused, you said something about what valve did for them
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Oct 7, 2017 14:27
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:Does valve own Id now? I'm confused, you said something about what valve did for them oh, poo poo, i meant ID before. sorry. i'm a dummy.
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Oct 7, 2017 15:36
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