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wow! it's the 25th anniversary of thinkpad! what a coincidence that the "retro thinkpad" david hill, lenovo chief design officer, has been getting input about and teasing for two years is finally here in the form of the T25. we were all waiting for our dream modern thinkpad, with the durability and usability of the T420/X220 and older models, and the technology and power efficiency of the new ones. david hill did the surveys! we wanted 16:10 screens, the good 7-row keyboards, and a good computer like the ones they used to make well we got none of that https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-25-Anniversary-Edition-Laptop-Review.253454.0.html  it's a special model of the T470. a single model. no configure-to-order option. obligatory loving geforce 940mx in late 2017. 63% srgb coverage, 16:9, 225 nit brighness touchscreenon a non-convertible laptop. even the keyboard just looks old. they had to have a special case top and logic board specifically for the T25 to accommodate it. it's backlit and has the 1.8mm key travel of the X1 Carbon's low-profile keyboard. there's no thinklight. and it's loving $1,899.00 with no discounts. the T470 with the same specs but no touchscreen and integrated graphics instead of the godawful 940mx (which is inferior to a desktop gtx 750 ti from 2014) is $1,454.25. it's 2400 euros in europe and limited to 625 units there lenovo appears to somehow have the impression that the old thinkpads have a cult following because they look clunky, and that that cult following would love to pay a premium for a laptop with "commemorative features" that are basically cosmetic, as a collector's item i waited two years using a thinkpad T410 and now an X220 tablet for this this is the only time a "gif" has successfully conveyed my feelings about anything:  fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yoooooooouuuuuuuuuu lenovoooooooooooooooooo
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at this point, with laptops and phones, i'm just resigned to the fact that technology in general peaked in 2012 or 2013 and will be on a continuous decline from now on
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Oct 5, 2017 22:59
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can't wait to mill my own barley again
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Oct 5, 2017 23:20
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it was always going to be trash op
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Oct 5, 2017 23:28
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atomicthumbs posted:
also this is largely true. thinkpad users are idiots
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Oct 5, 2017 23:29
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lolnovo stinkpad
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Oct 5, 2017 23:33
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why did you think that anything with "retro" in the name would ever be anything more than a terrible low-effort cash-grab
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Oct 5, 2017 23:34
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Literally: just buy whatever Chromebook Wirecutter suggests and put Windows 7 on it.
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Oct 5, 2017 23:40
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you can't even fold the display back all the way like you're goddamn supposed to
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Oct 5, 2017 23:44
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I'm going to make the same post I do every few months: the best Thinkpad to buy is one that has had its motherboard replaced with a brand new one from Shenzhen that has an i7 in it https://www.facebook.com/lcdfans/
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Jimmy Carter posted:I'm going to make the same post I do every few months: the best Thinkpad to buy is one that has had its motherboard replaced with a brand new one from Shenzhen that has an i7 in it Other than acting from a sincere desire to heat your gonads into infertility (and regarding which: please carry on) why would you need an i7 on a laptop?
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Main Paineframe posted:why did you think that anything with "retro" in the name would ever be anything more than a terrible low-effort cash-grab that was what people were calling it in lieu of an actual name
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Jimmy Carter posted:I'm going to make the same post I do every few months: the best Thinkpad to buy is one that has had its motherboard replaced with a brand new one from Shenzhen that has an i7 in it I would love an X62 or a 51nb modified X220 but apparently the actual execution of the motherboard is a bit janky. the only way they could fit ports was upside down, no sound in linux, no fan control, etc
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Oct 6, 2017 00:08
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Jimmy Carter posted:you can't even fold the display back all the way like you're goddamn supposed to This one even has a smaller bezel.
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Schadenboner posted:Other than acting from a sincere desire to heat your gonads into infertility (and regarding which: please carry on) why would you need an i7 on a laptop? because you're a java developer hahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
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Schadenboner posted:Other than acting from a sincere desire to heat your gonads into infertility (and regarding which: please carry on) why would you need an i7 on a laptop? I assume because the people who would spring for this are also intending on making them last another 10 years. Eventually it'll be an android like Dolores in Westworld, where they've just been upgrading all the different bits along the way.
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Oct 6, 2017 00:47
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what was so good about the old thinkpads anyway?
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meatpotato posted:what was so good about the old thinkpads anyway? Indestructible + good keyboards
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also the clitmice because non-mac trackpads are trash
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i figured this was going to be trash but goddrat not this badJimmy Carter posted:you can't even fold the display back all the way like you're goddamn supposed to im the ipod
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Oct 6, 2017 01:27
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quit being a moron and buy a macbook pro, op
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Jimmy Carter posted:I assume because the people who would spring for this are also intending on making them last another 10 years. Eventually it'll be an android like Dolores in Westworld, where they've just been upgrading all the different bits along the way. i bought a configure-to-order T410 and made it last 6 years. it still worked perfectly when I upgraded to my current X220 tablet. akadajet posted:quit being a moron and buy a macbook pro, op I can no longer use a laptop without a trackpoint.
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Oct 6, 2017 01:59
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atomicthumbs posted:I can no longer use a laptop without a trackpoint. once you have a properly implemented trackpad like the macs have you won't miss the red dot. you'll also have access to the only good desktop OS that exists
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atomicthumbs posted:i bought a configure-to-order T410 and made it last 6 years. it still worked perfectly when I upgraded to my current X220 tablet. i dunno when they went to poo poo but i bought a t430 about ~5 years ago and it was a piece of poo poo even a year into owning it. almost everything died on it and i had to frankenstein it. eventually there was video-card problem and i tried to replace it and still was dead, so i sold it for scrap on samart (apparently the guy later fixed it because some capacitor on those typically dies lol)
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I just bought a T470 and after 3 weeks of shipping from China to Australia, it was damaged in transit. if you get angry on the phone they'll give you a free laptop carry case and higher capacity SSD on your replacement. Good poo poo, gonna take another 3 weeks though.
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SpaceAceJase posted:I just bought a T470 and after 3 weeks of shipping from China to Australia, it was damaged in transit. what the gently caress, australia is like right next to china *checks map* actually australia is as far from china as brasil is from the us
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Oct 6, 2017 02:34
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Which one of these softgoods did they give you (lol if they didn't give you the rolling luggage)
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meatpotato posted:what was so good about the old thinkpads anyway? i liked the old nipple mouse buttons because they were sorta curved for your comfort instead of angular. i think the nipple had better sensitivity than the dell one i have now. i wasn't a fan of the keyboard when i had to replace the palm rest on mine because the retaining claw thing right by the arrow key cluster would pop out if you lifted the laptop by the right side
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Oct 6, 2017 02:36
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the clit is the best laptop pointing device.
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i like being able to replace everything in it with decent instructions, although that's basically every business class laptop. having to repad my x220 or otherwise just say gently caress it to replace the power jack kinda sucked though
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Bloody posted:the clit is the best laptop pointing device. the dell one sucks although i 've been meaning to throw linux on it and see if its just crappy defaults you can't change in their settings
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meatpotato posted:what was so good about the old thinkpads anyway? also easy to repair and swap components (once had a piece of poo poo acer that needed thermal paste but the screw was under the keyboard, so the only way to fix it was to totally destroy the loving thing. garbage). they're the standard for Linux, most everything works without hassle and if you're poor they're still usable after 10 years (and you can get them for sub $50)
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akadajet posted:once you have a properly implemented trackpad like the macs have you won't miss the red dot. you'll also have access to the only good desktop OS that exists Dirty-rear end lies.
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Bloody posted:the clit is the best laptop pointing device.
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i use a t530 and it's very needs suiting
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:trackpad is superior because gestures Who uses gestures when you can have keybinds.
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meatpotato posted:what was so good about the old thinkpads anyway? their lack of popularity and associations with being business-oriented nothing actually tangible, just nerd cred
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Xaris posted:i dunno when they went to poo poo but i bought a t430 about ~5 years ago and it was a piece of poo poo even a year into owning it. almost everything died on it and i had to frankenstein it. eventually there was video-card problem and i tried to replace it and still was dead, so i sold it for scrap on samart (apparently the guy later fixed it because some capacitor on those typically dies lol) they went to poo poo exactly when they switched the keyboard style (i.e. t430)
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thinkpads are the leftist computer, stymie
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Cocoa Crispies posted:what the gently caress, australia is like right next to china Worse still, I was passed around the whole supply chain to get an answer as to why my order was already 5 days late. The DHL tracking number didn't work, lol
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