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Hey it's Leif Erickson day, the day to celebrate the first time Europeans made contact with the American continent. Post your favorite Viking, Norse, and transcontinental factoids. Did you know that Vikings didn't wear horned helmets because that's a loving retarded idea? If you're in a fight that's an easy way for the enemy to control the position of your head and kill you instantly. Vikings are depicted as having that kind of helmet because they had some opera come out around the same time the sagas were becoming popular again, and the producers wanted the actors to seem more exotic and tough. And the image just stuck. This modern day song is based off of an ancient Icelandic battle hymn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eHkjPCGXKQ Vikings didn't just rape and pillage all the time tho. They also were heavily focused on personal honor, trade, and communication. A good Viking would be able to also resolve disputes with words as well as ritual death combat. Also get treasure and gently caress.
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this thread is about immigrant song. we can touch on the other stuff you said if the conversation naturally circles back that way im generally averse to covers but all the people behind this one do good work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkP3urtYCkc
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Oct 9, 2017 16:35
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The vikings had a Thing. It was literally called a Thing. It's what they called their governing body, and it was an assembly of all the free people, who all had the right to one vote. The King ruled only by the consensus of the people and was fully aware of this fact. English parliament and, by extension, American democracy owes as much to the Thing (and the Folkmoot, the Anglo-Saxon version) as to the ancient Greeks.
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Oct 9, 2017 16:36
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Check out this nerd talkin bout how America got discovered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImVcBI6qyQ
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Oct 9, 2017 16:38
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Vikings suck. Celts rule.
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Oct 9, 2017 16:38
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gary oldmans diary posted:im generally averse to covers but all the people behind this one do good work https://youtu.be/4MvbFM9zIGQ
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Oct 9, 2017 16:42
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Happy Leif Erickson day! Hinga dinga durgen!
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Oct 9, 2017 16:42
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its Columbo day
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Oct 9, 2017 16:43
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also, skyrim is fuckin wrong, check out how real sword and board warriors fought. Spoiler: the shield is the main weapon, not the sword https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhpqAGdZPc trust this guy his name's fuckin roland he prob knows this poo poo
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Oct 9, 2017 16:43
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gary oldmans diary posted:this thread is about immigrant song. we can touch on the other stuff you said if the conversation naturally circles back that way This is loving great, thanks. Could have been in the Matrix during a fight scene.
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Oct 9, 2017 16:45
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viking dna produces blondes with fiery red beards and that's pretty dope
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Oct 9, 2017 16:45
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Spoiler: the shield is the main weapon, not the sword
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Oct 9, 2017 16:48
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gary oldmans diary posted:how much weed do i need to smoke before watching that video so it makes sense you need to do like four marijuanas
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Oct 9, 2017 16:49
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The Vikings were black. So were all of the kings of Europe up until the 1800s.
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Oct 9, 2017 16:51
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Blue Star posted:The Vikings were black. So were all of the kings of Europe up until the 1800s. Google Geirmundur Heljarskinn.
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Oct 9, 2017 16:59
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Blurry Gray Thing posted:The vikings had a Thing. It was literally called a Thing. It's what they called their governing body, and it was an assembly of all the free people, who all had the right to one vote. The King ruled only by the consensus of the people and was fully aware of this fact. Parliament more goes back to noble councils and Germanic and later medieval feudal ideas as the king of a first-among equals kind of idea than to the things and the Anglo-Saxon thing. Though in some way those ideas about the rights of the warrior aristocracy and such really come from the same place as the things and their equivalents. The Things in Scandinavia mostly were local and as kings became more powerful they largely did away with them in governing the realm as a whole (though they still had to rely on the consent of their vassals and the church to govern their realm, as elsewhere in Europe). Also it's usually free landowning men, i.e., aristocracy in some way, not all free people. SniperWoreConverse posted:Hey it's Leif Erickson day, the day to celebrate the first time Europeans made contact with the American continent. Post your favorite Viking, Norse, and transcontinental factoids. Horned helmets don't necessarily seem to have been a terrible idea. Lots of cultures throughout history have had horned or otherwise adorned helmets (Japanese, Celts, Romans, Greeks, etc), it's just that the vikings didn't. It probably wasn't because "it was loving stupid" or something like that. When it comes to trade one of the most lucrative trade goods the vikings dealt in were people, slaves that is. Dublin, Kiev and Novgorod were essentially built on this, selling the slaves mostly to Byzantium and the Islamic world, though many also found their way back to Scandinavia (and a bunch of Irish women to Iceland which was mostly settled by men). Viking is however a term, also attested in Scandinavia once we have written sources, that literally seems to mean "pirate". It's not really a culture or a people.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:10
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ulfberht > hanzo
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Oct 9, 2017 17:19
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Hector Beerlioz posted:you need to do like four marijuanas depending on how Nordic you are, of c. Blue Star posted:The Vikings were black. So were all of the kings of Europe up until the 1800s. This is true. All the top tiers were black. Also the 14th pope, Victor I. in like the year 200. In those days it was a lot more cosmopolitan than people think check this ancient egypto lion that Vikings dcided to carve all over. they also wrote poo poo all over Hagia Sophia
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Oct 9, 2017 17:21
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more like kief erickson, IMHO!
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Oct 9, 2017 17:23
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It's clear why we named America after him.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:25
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Isn’t that the guy that discovered Iceland and thought it was Greenland and then proceeded to call everyone Mexicans and then invented the taco? 
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Oct 9, 2017 17:33
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:Isn’t that the guy that discovered Iceland and thought it was Greenland and then proceeded to call everyone Mexicans and then invented the taco? bjork discovered iceland and has been living there since the late paleolithic
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Oct 9, 2017 17:35
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Percelus posted:bjork discovered iceland and has been living there since the late paleolithic God that makes so much sense! 
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Oct 9, 2017 17:39
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Blurry Gray Thing posted:The vikings had a Thing. It was literally called a Thing. It's what they called their governing body, and it was an assembly of all the free people, who all had the right to one vote. The King ruled only by the consensus of the people and was fully aware of this fact. Randarkman posted:Parliament more goes back to noble councils and Germanic and later medieval feudal ideas as the king of a first-among equals kind of idea than to the things and the Anglo-Saxon thing. Though in some way those ideas about the rights of the warrior aristocracy and such really come from the same place as the things and their equivalents. In fact one possible etymology for the word "thing" (as in non-specific object) is that it originally meant a matter for the Thing to discuss, and later took on the meaning of "object".
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Oct 9, 2017 17:40
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hinga dinga durgen 
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Oct 9, 2017 17:42
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I wonder why the Newfoundland natives that Leif (or that other guy who actually tried to colonize America) and his merry men encountered weren't infected with smallpox. If they had been, maybe North- and South America would have had enough to time to recover so as to not be so completely devestated five centuries later.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:43
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Prob the Icelandic didn't have smallpox? It was also much less of an interface between the two groups. Fewer people and less hanging out.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:57
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Hector Beerlioz posted:you need to do like four marijuanas 
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Oct 9, 2017 17:59
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I think Christopher Columbus is a piece of poo poo but not having the day off school because it's insensitive to celebrate this holiday is almost enough to make me go full on Republican.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:00
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bag em and tag em posted:I think Christopher Columbus is a piece of poo poo but not having the day off school because it's insensitive to celebrate this holiday is almost enough to make me go full on Republican. Just call it indigenuous peoples' day then demand it be celebrated.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:03
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Prob the Icelandic didn't have smallpox? Yeah, it could be both of these things. I just skimmed the Wiki article and smallpox and it said it wasn't that common in Europe until the time of the Crusades, so a bit later than Leif. I remember reading in the book 1491 that the earliest Spanish explorers brought pigs with them to have a portable food source and that smallpox spread from them extremely fast.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:07
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gary oldmans diary posted:im against it The Vikings were down and in those days could only smoke weed, cigs hadn't been discovered yet. It's how they developed their most powerful techniques. Squares couldn't figure it out. This is how berserkers were formed. Ber is weed and serk means smoke or suck
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Oct 9, 2017 18:09
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Grevling posted:Yeah, it could be both of these things. I just skimmed the Wiki article and smallpox and it said it wasn't that common in Europe until the time of the Crusades, so a bit later than Leif. Yep. Pretty hosed. Plague blankets were real too. Apparently there have been a significant number of times records relating to biological war were destroyed to make those guys look better.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:12
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There is a solid history of people catapulting rotting/diseased corpses over walls or poisoning water supplies in similar manners so it's not like biological warfare was an unknown thing, even if they didn't call it that and didn't really know about germ theory of disease. But yeah similarly it wouldn't surprise me if they weren't super gung ho to explain to the Vatican how they were just slaughtering people that were specifically meant for conversion or enslavement. Just spitballing there though.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:14
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COMRADES posted:Just call it indigenuous peoples' day then demand it be celebrated. They DO call it indigenous peoples day and I still have to work. it's pc culture gone mad I tell ya
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Oct 9, 2017 18:18
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SniperWoreConverse posted:This is how berserkers were formed. Ber is weed and serk means smoke or suck How is warrior formed? How shield maiden get pregnant
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Oct 9, 2017 18:20
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Mozi posted:more like kief erickson, IMHO! lol I like Queef Erickson myself 
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Oct 9, 2017 18:28
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Zelder posted:Happy Leif Erickson day! Hinga dinga durgen! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkGDLayx7KU&t=1s
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