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Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
"Barry, I'm a horrible mom in the future!"
"Iris, you don't have to be that person. You aren't that person. Choose a different path."
"It isn't that simple Barry!"
"Remember when I killed you in an alternate future, and then trying to stop that version of me from killing you in the present you shot me/him in the back?"
"Oh yeah. Good point."

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Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

muscles like this! posted:

I did laugh at Iris actually appearing in the episode. This was like the third episode where Barry talks to her just off screen and it felt extremely weird like Candice Patton had quit the show or something.

The past two episodes felt like a really badly done Shyamalan twist where Iris has been dead the whole time and Barry somehow didn't realize it but they spoil it from the beginning.

It was especially weird for her to not appear in an episode revolving entirely around her pregnancy test. Just Barry comically shouting down a hallway a few times updating the hypothetical concept of Iris of what's happening with her character that episode.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
I think they might actually be digging through to the other side with the speedster villains that have been old for five years now by having 10+ of them running around.

Edit: Also it's good to have Iris back even if her departure, absence and return was extremely clunky.

:flashfact: "Hey Iris we are going to have episodes based around you that you aren't in. You might be pregnant!"
:) "........"
:flashfact: "That's cool Iris, you just hang out back there while we discuss you for an hour"
:) "........"
:flashfact: "Hey Iris here is how the latest episode ended up. You aren't pregnant after all."
:) "........"
:flashfact: "Iris, let me tell you about the new big bad guy!
:) "Barry, I'm trapped in an unspecified anomaly and have been for awhile. The football player guy from the really terrible storyline is using magic to keep me safe, off the show"
:flashfact: "It's okay Iris we will get you back someday"
:) "Actually I'm back and one of Deon's powers was to have the script. So I know literally everything everyone said while I was gone. Even in private."

Rectal Death Adept fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Jul 15, 2021

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

nine-gear crow posted:

No, that's still 20 years out from now. Right now Felicity is still on the run and in hiding with baby Mia because she did All The Cyber Crimes. All of them. The Monitor shows up and whisks her away to Arrow Heaven at the end of the 2044 plot, but she can still theoretically show up any time on--lol I can't finish that sentence. Emily Bett Rickards is as done with this poo poo as the rest of us are by now.

Several times during this episode you could tell the actors are over it.

Iris's explanation of the negative speedforce stuff was a good example.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
:colbert: "Dad why didn't you have the other half dozen superheroes who are literally already here help you in your fight against godspeed?"
:flashfact: "I needed Thawne because godspeed has no limits. Thawne's limit is he wouldn't let anyone else kill me so I knew he would turn on me the first chance he got."
:colbert: "Are we having two different conversations? What are you even talking about? You brought your arch nemesis back for seemingly no reason. There were like five other speedsters here."
:flashfact: "Negative speedforce did it."
:colbert: "Doesn't the bad guy know who you are?"
:flashfact: "No, the speedforce can alter the brains of any speedster"
:colbert: "WHAT?"

This stuff isn't as bad as RICHARD DIAZ in Arrow but it's obvious CW shows get like 3 good seasons other than legends.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

TwoPair posted:

"Time to call in... the Has-beens!" *shines "anyone available" light into the sky*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3WJaC-7g2c

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
This show needs to be royally flushed straight down the toilet in front of a full house



All in


























level up

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Barry has a very specific set of engagement rules

1.) He has to run up to someone, introduce himself and give them a chance to surrender
2.) Then the bad guy has to attack him first, usually incapacitating him or surprising him
3.) If there is any confusion they can run out a door or down a stairwell and once out of sight have been considered to have gotten away, somehow
4.) Upon developing new techniques or technology once the criminal who escaped with millions of dollars needs more loot in the same afternoon, Repeat #1
5.) Repeat #2, this time he counters and disables them
6.) THEN slap the magical handcuffs on them that instantly de-power them

Sure, you could ask why he doesn't just put the cuffs on people before they even realize he is there, as he captured the royal flush gang's hacker and put him back in jail across the city and came back in less than 1 second meaning he can move faster than any human could ever possibly perceive but then I'd ask you why he also lets himself get punched in the face 200,000 times.

The answer is Level Up.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Barry -Level Up- you are in a coma, -Level Up- we don't know how this message -Level Up- will appear to you

Please -Level Up- Wake Up

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Vietnamwees posted:

So now we know that THAWNE was behind the whole thing to discredit the Flash! Seems like since the Flash will always be faster than him, Thawne has found a new way to fight him!Though this raises some new questions-

1-What happened to Joe since it looks like his body disappears right before the train went splat over his body? Where is he now??
2-Did the Flash REALLY attack the loft, or was that the Reverse Flash's doing in order to further discredit him?
3-Why didn't Barry remember what happened to Joe??

negative stillforce did it

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Despero claims to call earth his home and really love it but he still thinks it's cool to just murder civilians with brain lasers when pissed off so he must not have lived here long enough to acclimate.

I assume he just had some really good food in Central City on his first visit and saw the world get destroyed. Now he is traveling through time to lecture people for the loss of Jamba Juice or something.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Barry's training of the captain should cover how he can dodge lightning bolts, bullets fired against his head and explosions on his wrist but also gets punched in the teeth by every man, woman and child in Central City

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

The Lord Bude posted:

I gotta say though I like this new villain, for the first time in years it seems like they're doing something cool and new.

They should have skipped Armageddon and a few of the 5 other episodes so far but yeah the last couple of have been pretty alright.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

muscles like this! posted:

Are Candice Patton and Grant Gustin fighting irl? Because it feels like Barry and Iris barely interact any more.

I don't know if the actors have problems but Candice Patton had a leave of absence last year and seems to be over the show. If she is having issues with the show or doesn't like doing the show anymore it's going to come across in her character.

Flash should be cancelled by now so I don't blame her. It must be hard shooting 20+ 45 minute episodes every season that have largely sucked for a long time. Just showing up to a job you can't quit to spend a week of 12 hour days pretending to care about it?

What's the big deal this week? A woman that talks in card puns wants to rob a bank while I explain how blogs work? Only a billion more hours to go.

Rectal Death Adept fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Apr 29, 2022

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

JohnnyQPublic posted:

Could this show get an worse? I really think the writers don't give two shits anymore.

at least the villains are threatening even if it's because their powers make no sense or you don't know what they are capable of. The show is obvious bad now but Deon did seem weird and creepy. I just thought it was the messy writing from an episode I had forgotten but he didn't remember meeting Iris in the train station so either he was lying and messing with her or it wasn't him. That's at least slightly interesting.

It's no two seasons of Arrow being menaced by some random guy. Dozens of episodes extremely dramatically revolving around a regular dude being the world's biggest threat while an entire superteam has to shake their fists as he walks down hallways or enters stairwells and escapes countless times.

It'd be like the thinker was just really good at crossword puzzles with no special attributes and he got twice as much time in the show.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

A Fancy Hat posted:

It definitely WAS a GL ring, at least when they first introduced it.

Thawne mentioned "Mandrakk" when talking about the box, which is a pretty deep cut from the comics. Basically there's an evil Monitor out there (not the Anti-Monitor, though) who's a vampire that feeds on all of reality. He's also supposed to represent corporate big wigs who feed off the labor of creative people, which would be an interesting meta path to take this show for sure.

A glowing green box that wants Diggle to travel the cosmos having lifetimes of adventure sounds pretty much like a lantern ring but I hope the show drops it there. I no longer trust Flash to do anything anymore.

The way the show has been trending it would either be something else entirely that is a random mishmash of already stupid comic poo poo like turning Diggle into a New God and introducing some guy in a plastic breastplate to teach him about the source wall while they punch people and talk about tachyons in a warehouse or they would take the worst part of the Green Lantern canon and have six kinds of assholes running around with different rings doing a lovely knockoff Captain Planet routine that causes Flash to shoot Rainbow lightning at the grim reaper or something.

No new plots or arcs please.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Vietnamwees posted:

Hey man, the Still Force, the Strength Force, etc., whatever, but now we have the NEGATIVE versions of them now!? The way I see it, they're all gonna end up being the same in the end.

Negative just refers to the CGI budget they get. Negative Strength (weak?) Force no longer transforms into a giant CGI hulk, she just stomps the ground and has glowing eyes.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

J33uk posted:

Tiny bit lost on the distinction between having the book versus making decisions based on future knowledge anyway. I guess it's just toning down the intensity of the future knowledge and instead being a bit more free form?

Also have fun on your other show Mr. Martin.

Our outro was suitably curious.

It's the difference in knowing they'll eventually have two children then living their lives and Barry stating with a notebook and slide rule that they should have sex on March 3rd at 10:03PM to conceive Nora.

With the book when Nora falls and loses teeth on the stairs it isn't a scary moment and a lesson for a new father, it's just a super powered rear end in a top hat waiting for his toddler to hurt itself.

J33uk posted:

Well Barry still has the emotional intelligence of a fine Subaru vehicle

I know it's the writing but the only way Barry being this dumb in the premiere makes sense is if we are going to get a small storyline about speed concussions where the brain has been bouncing around in his skull for 9 years.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Scrotum Modem posted:

The Flash's final villain: Mecha Diaz, in speedster form

How can I enjoy the last arc now if we all know Diaz has already won?

For anyone that didn't watch Arrow, Richard Diaz has already won.

His credentials are that he is some guy. Some guy that has already won.

Rectal Death Adept fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Mar 15, 2023

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Mona was the worst

Richard Diaz would have been less bad if he had literally any kind of special ability and had only gotten one season. Giving two full seasons, 44 episodes, to the menacing Regular Dude was probably the dumbest Arrowverse ever was.

Oliver is now promising to never kill again so hes just dropping 30 henchmen with center chest arrow shots only to get to the Regular Dude Badguy and shake his fist at him. Regular Dude is trying to destroy an entire city and kill hundreds of thousands of people on a weekly basis but we can't stop him.

Regular Dude just ambushed them somewhere and slowly hobbles down an alley or hallway for the 20th time while the heroes stare in frustration. After legions of assassins and world class superbadguys The Regular Dude of Seasons 6 and 7 is just the most villainous villain to ever exist. The world breaks at Regular Dudes touch. Regular Dude needs literal hours of dialog to explain why he is unbeatable.

It's like people running down stairwells and Flash being like "poo poo, I can't see them so they escaped" and his constant claims to have checked the entire city and not found people that are in the Villain Warehouse they all use every time.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Felicity was great as a comic book character who can hack atoms or whatever if you suspend your disbelief on anything related to computers.

My issue with the character was 100% the writing. At some point they realized she gave a good tearful monologue so the writers just started sliding those in constantly. "Crytalking" from the arrow thread comes from the fact that every few episodes she had to be almost crying and upset over something but whatever they picked was usually stupid or not worth multiple minutes of crying or multiple instances of crytalking scenes. The writers just kept going back to it to have her crytalk at Oliver 3 separate times because he killed someone/almost died/lied about something.

She's a good actress and did a great job on the show but it's like they decided talking-while-almost-crying was her signature move and did it a weird amount.

Flash writers do the same thing but it's mostly to introduce new speedsters or new dire prophecies Barry is upset he can't change until he does. They get these one weird tricks they love to use over and over

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
that's exactly what Diaz wanted

congratulations hoss, you played yourself

Rectal Death Adept fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Mar 16, 2023

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

muscles like this! posted:

This week's Flash was so bad. Back to back "serious" moments, Cecile's drama being easily solved by just loving calling Barry and having him speed her to Joe's house and the bad guy's weird confusing scheme where if he could insert someone into the dealer's position why bother with the complicated meta luck plot?

Just caught this episode and yeah

Also I liked that the "High Stakes Casino Night" at this random bar had a lavish buffet of ruffles potato chips and rold gold pretzels on paper plates. Really added atmosphere to some guy smirking and claiming he was up $50,000 playing blackjack.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
one of those disposable foil baking tins full of hamburger buns really brings in the high rollers to the million dollar games of blackjack

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Fumblemouse posted:

I think i must have missed how becky badluck suddenly got a job at a high roller table and was able to essentially give away 50k without anyone who ran the casino night going WTF? Was it a 'bring your own dealer' special event?

the bad guy that needed money managed to infiltrate this "High Stakes Casino" with both bodyguards and a dealer he chose, somehow, because he could make her unlucky with that ring so he always won

I assume on paper it sounded better since a real casino would have entire teams of people doing high tech surveillance on every game, especially the big ones. There wouldn't be a way to actually cheat, especially if he was winning big. There also wouldn't be a way to get your friends hired as dealers for high stakes games in an afternoon either.

When it's a guy alone, unsupervised, at a table in a dingy bar that doesn't seem to have cameras and all of the casino employees secretly work for him and the one handing him all of his wins is new it doesn't really make a lot of sense. I guess you are supposed to assume the unspecified owners of the casino would know if he cheated so he needed the magic to win when he claims the new dealer lost millions to him in her first shift while no one was watching?

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
the only part of that episode I liked was when the bar patrons were making fun of chillblaine's really weird and creepy conversation with Khione because the whole triple personality thing sounds extra insane when hes trying to convince the third personality that he had a dream about the second personality while she is telling him she is dead

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Level Up

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
They really should have cut that Nia episode. That was obviously written as a nonsensical multi part arc that would have been in the background of like 4+ supergirl episodes resulting in a dramatic confrontation with the Mother Of Dreams that now lets Nia shoot lasers at the moon or whatever.

Most of these final season episodes are weird and out of place. It's like this wasn't supposed to be the final season and they didn't want to pay for rewrites.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
make it a dream sequence that is the B plot of a single episode. Most of the sequence takes place in that loving bar

the A plot is Chester and Allegra's relationship

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Speedforce

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

A Fancy Hat posted:

Meh finale overall. Chillblaine sucks so bad, I was hoping Zoom would kill him just for the shock value.

ten people in weird colorful costumes showing up for a big climactic battle and chillblaine still looks the dumbest

"Suit up everybody. Cecile I want to see some Dragonball Z powers somehow. Mark pop off that shirt and do your best impression of the shirtless duster look from Always Sunny."

Rectal Death Adept fucked around with this message at 10:47 on May 27, 2023

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Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
treeforce, i ain't gotta explain poo poo

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