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Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

There Bias Two posted:

Is there a word or phrase for concepts that are couched behind so much esoteric jargon to make them seem more legitimate? Because blockchain is that.

Bafflegab

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Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Ketamine-2-go looks more and more like a legitimate business these days.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

each Tether is FOR SURE, truly, backed by 1 hard-minted erect US dollar, for sure, for sure!

It's not just someone typing a number into a database (sorry I meant BLOCKCHAIN)

Each tether is backed by a dollar. Its just that they are all backed by the same dollar.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Hammerite posted:

Wily Wizard NFTs - 10,000 wizards each with one of 10 different staffs, beards, robes, and hats

Bilious Barflies NFTs - 10,000 barflies each with one of 10 different drinks, faded jackets, facial disfigurements, and hats

Sloppy Sandwich NFTs - 10,000 sandwiches each with one of 10 different fillings, garnishes, sides, and hats

Hasty Hatstand NFTs - 10,000 hatstands each with one of 10 different hats, hats, hats and hats

Ok, but are some of the hats rare?

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

The Lone Badger posted:

Thst seems like an unnecesary number of steps. Why not sell procedurally-generated collectible goatses?

The economy couldn't survive all the capital flows that would drive.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

GABA ghoul posted:

I can't wrap my mind around this NFT ape jpeg stuff. I just don't get it. Back in the day when I was young we had cryptocurrency and it was used to launder money or trade drugs and child pornography. It was simple and it made sense. But this ape stuff that kids are into these days is just bizarre. I think all those pregnant spiderman needle YT videos weren't as harmless as we thought and now we are seeing the long term effects

It's simple. Because there are lots of individual coins, there can be a relatively well established market for them. That means if you claim that some coin can be sold for some high price (to inflate the value of your holdings of that coin), other people will try to sell their to try to capture that value. But with NFTs, each is ostensibly unique. So if you sell yourself one for several million pseudo dollars, it is much harder for someone to capture that value by selling an identical (ie fungible) copy. This makes pump and dump schemes easier to inflate.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

That nft videogame axie infinity sounds dire as gently caress.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

jpmeyer posted:

the problem is that you ultimately can't calibrate stuff like drop rates to make both players and "earners" happy. in order for stuff to be expensive, it needs to be rare. but if it's rare, people will get bored of grinding and give up on the game. meanwhile if the stuff is calibrated around it being realistic for players to get them through normal play, then it'll be cheap because nobody really needs to buy it since they'll just get the stuff by playing the game the way they always were.

There is also the question of where the money comes from. A game or subscription service can be profitable because small amounts of money pulled from a large userbase can give a small number of people (the developers) large amounts of money. But if a large fraction of players are trying to get money, then that has to come from the other players. So either the players making money don't make much, or the players spending money have to dump tons in. While some people have had livelihoods as gold farmers, it wasn't an expectation that gold farmers would make up a significant fraction of the playerbase.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Crime on a Dime posted:

Economics and ecology are words built on the same root – ‘eco’ – from the Greek word ‘oikos’ meaning home. Ecology is the study of home. Economics is the management of home. What ecologists try to do is to determine the conditions and principles that govern life’s ability to flourish and survive. Now I would have thought any other group in society would want the ecologists to hurry up and find out exactly what those conditions and principles are, so that we can design our systems to live within them. But not economists. We have elevated the economy above everything else and this, I think, is the crisis we face. The economic system that has been foisted on people around the world is so fundamentally flawed that it is inevitably destructive. We must put the ‘eco’ back into economics and realise what the conditions and principles are for true sustainable living.



How do you explain home economics classes then, smart guy?

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Hello Sailor posted:

Probably very few? Tether claims to be equivalent to USD, but they don't actually cash out for USD.

As far as outside investigation can tell, Tether is basically a cargo cult version of leveraged inter-bank lending.

Why hasn't the tether price collapsed?

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Sashimi posted:

Sorry boss can't come to work today, some douche with a monkey avatar on Twitter locked me out of my car and is trying to claim ownership of it.

Please stop talking about someone else's car and get your rear end to work.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Cyrano4747 posted:

This is huge, and it's a huge part of why the disappearance of defined benefits plans (e.g. pensions) in favor of defined contribution (401k) is loving evil and has been a big part of destroying the middle class.

Sorry, but defined benefit plans are literally evil, and are just another way the elderly are stealing from the next generations. It boggles my mind people stand up for them. They are completely unsustainable and the bagholders are subsequent generations who pay in to bail out the last but get nothing.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

nexous posted:

The guy who wrote snow crash and diamond age and reamde cryptonomicon is doing a crypto? Why I never

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Hellblazer187 posted:

If Biden made crypto crash it means he's done exactly one good thing, making him the best president in my lifetime.

Who specifically would you say has been a better president in your lifetime?

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Every page of that white paper is a painting



"We project that 35,000 people will loan us 5 grand each."

https://davidjeremiah.blog/the-144000-in-the-book-of-revelation/

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

sticksy posted:

No, they just bought the rights to the brand since it's recognizable

Yeah, radioshack as it once was is completely gone.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Durzel posted:

You have to admire the sheer gall at saying that it's more important to make up a load of bullshit about what your JPG project is going to do, than it is to actually deliver any of it.

The real nfts were the friends we made along the way.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Three Olives posted:

One of my favorite rich people things is a lot of them wear fake jewelry. But why, I thought they were rich? Well, you see, you can't just like wear a $500,000 ring around everywhere. So you buy the real ring, have a replica of the real ring made, put the real one in the safe and wearing the fake one is completely OK, because you still own the real ring, even if you don't wear it out to eat where it can get lost or stolen.

Like magic card proxies.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

*walks into room at a party to show off expensive jewelry*. "Scan the QR code on my ring to see the NFT of the diamond"

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

If anything, mining drives down the price due to the constant need to sell to buy more electricity.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

I'd also say the only source of value in an NFT is the hype bubbles ability to draw in new suckers. Remember that tweet thread from a while back by an NFT booster that in all seriousness claimed that the best way to increase sales was to have a bunch of hyped, touted, and undelivered features in a roadmap, and that actual delivered features were only going to expose the reality of the scam? I'd agree with that in the sense that since hype is the only value, these projects need to pump that as much as possible. So the people who buy in are there because of the hype, and they have a vested interest in contributing to it.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

squirrelzipper posted:

I mean maybe for some, from what I hear it’s less surge pricing and more keeping up with volatile input prices and regional availability. Particularly now. Surge pricing prolly coming at some point tho.

Restaurants have always had surge pricing, it's called the dinner menu.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Cowcaster posted:

insane with the news that a bitcoin exchange is 8 billion in the hole and has been laundering money for a sanctioned country is still being followed with it creeping up back towards 16k but here we are

Those are 2 different exchanges

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

erosion posted:

Kinda feels like people forgot or never noticed the dude admitting he was running a Ponzi scheme months ago:

https://finbold.com/ftx-founder-accidentally-described-ponzi-scheme-months-before-crash/

All of crypto is a Ponzi scheme.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

more falafel please posted:

We brought RMS in to speak at my college because we all loved open-sourcefree software and (GNU/)Linux. One person asked him how we could make a living doing free software, and he said we shouldn't have families and find people to mooch off of.

I mean, this is a reasonable and honest answer.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Boxturret posted:

Step 1: decide to turn all your game items in to nfts

Step 2: work out a universal and enforceable standard that all games in all engines have to use that allows quick and simple swapping of complex assets between games

it's easy!

All games based on gurps

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Southern Cassowary posted:

How much is this going to affect the exchanges? Will they be completely hamstrung and be dealing with huge bank runs and die, or is this something where it'll be easy to concoct a workaround to keep business as usual? I know Swift is very important for international finance but I don't really know how it functions at the transaction level. The Binance message on Twitter makes me hopeful for the former, but blockchain and crypto refuse to loving die.

The tweet was wrong. Another one in the replies said it was the bank, not swift.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

notwithoutmyanus posted:

So lately crypto circles have been big on... NFT's on the Bitcoin Blockchain. I don't know why but they're doing things like ripping off NFT's from other blockchains. Right click still wins.


https://twitter.com/LeonidasNFT/status/1623721396088995841 - example.

I don't understand the ordinals concept nor do I desire to, but it is where hype appears to currently be. It's too stupid for me to read through.

What if you got rich for having an early ICQ number?

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Salt Fish posted:

Social media was an instant smash success and the same minute the technology was created it was everywhere like a plague. The time between facebook allowing non-college emails to sign up and my grandma having an account was like 3 months.

The early social media sites (Friendster, MySpace) were so popular they became unusable at peak hours.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Wall Balls posted:

gonna launch a line of NFTs that's 100000 randomly generated lists of nested checkboxes and just skip the performative step of making artwork

The low numbered ones are worth more, right?

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

I wonder what nonsensical schemes the same kind of people were getting into a thousand years ago.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

RocketMermaid posted:

It's sad that all this time and effort could go into something interesting or helpful or meaningful, but instead it goes into mathematical fanfiction to prop up his dreams of being rich.

Presumably the inability to critically examine their own bullshit is correlated with them not being particularly productive.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

To argue that a lack of free will means that punishment is not useful is merely an excuse to avoid punishment. You could easily say the opposite. If one lacks free will, then their choices are strictly determined by their environment, and a robust and harsh system of punishment would be a necessary part of the environment to dissuade free will-less beings from committing crimes.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Boxturret posted:

nice cannibalism cult you've got there

If the catholics didn't keep eating jesus, he would come back Akira style.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Salt Fish posted:

Cops shouldn't exist at all. If you decide to become one that is enough evidence to demonstrate mental illness, which I already mentioned.

:lol:

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

What if you could toast bread from the inside out?

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

The underlying premise of Juicero was a pseudomystical idea that juice had to be pressed immediately before consumption to preserve some vital life essence. Otherwise you can already buy bottled juices.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Lammasu posted:

Guy is doing something with raw water now. Hope he gets the shits.

That was in 2017 when juicero failed. It looks like he's into sprouts now.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

zedprime posted:

Adding my dick to the dick chain so my dick still exists after I win the Pain Olympics so I have my dick and eat it too.

Please, it's the cock chain.

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Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Boxturret posted:

Have either of them gotten to the point where they have to pass things through a living animal's digestive system yet?

Does yeast count?

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