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Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

R. Guyovich posted:

falun gong is what would happen if scientology got tens of millions of followers in a five-year period

Sounds more likely to result in Tom Cruise being elected president than scientology being banned.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2018 08:09

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 15:19

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Ah but you see, those aren't original consumer items. Now watch as I move those goalposts another couple meters...

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Anyway, can anyone explain why a developing country steals most of its technology instead of innovating its own?

And isn't a lot of the "stealing" actually technology transfers that were an explicit condition for foreign companies to open factories in China?

# ¿ Aug 19, 2018 10:48

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's almost like a big hurdle for the socialist world to develop its consumer economy were western embargoes or something.

Oh I agree, I meant Tacky-rear end is the one moving the goalposts

# ¿ Aug 19, 2018 11:09

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Wouldn't want anyone to think I wasn't

# ¿ Aug 19, 2018 11:12

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Weren't the Tang and Song more innovative than the Han

# ¿ Aug 20, 2018 09:32

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

the industrial revolution was vastly more innovative than all those periods tbh

Well yeah, it's as major as the invention of agriculture was

# ¿ Aug 20, 2018 09:58

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Typo posted:

this confirms my suspicion that a lot of chinese investments into africa is actually setting money on fire

I remember when the US flew a few hundred tons of dollar bills to Iraq and lost track of them all.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2018 08:16

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Sucking up with American characteristics.

# ¿ Sep 25, 2018 20:48

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

But that point of view doesn't let you write war porn articles.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2018 10:15

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Graphic posted:

The real scary thing about doing something like that today is, well...picture Normandy but in addition to MG-42s and mortars, the Germans also have guided anti-ship missiles and anti-tank missiles that are firing at all the troop carrying ships and landing craft.

Or, you know, an attempt by the Nazis to land troops in Great-Britain. They would have had to tow river barges across the Channel and pray to God the Royal Navy never showed up to destroy their supply lines. Trying to land troops on Taiwan would probably be a very similar scenario: not even worth considering while the USA has planes and warships anywhere in the region.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2018 12:18

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Fan Bingbing is old news, it's all about the head of Interpol now.

# ¿ Oct 6, 2018 08:47

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

gradenko_2000 posted:

weird how people keep panicking over people getting allegedly "disappeared" and then it turns out they're still alive

It's just luck that Saudi Arabia has set the bar for being truly awful at "murder and dismember a dude inside the embassy" (assuming that guy doesn't also turn up alive).

# ¿ Oct 8, 2018 08:24

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

You mean they haven't implemented fully automated luxury communism? poo poo...

# ¿ Nov 17, 2018 12:00

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

The robot being cross-eyed is a nice touch.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2018 11:54

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

You'd think Mike Pence acting like it's real would be a pretty big warning that it's bullshit.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2018 09:34

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

^^^ goddammit

Nah

# ¿ Dec 16, 2018 23:02

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

The lyrics included such gems as "Interracial marriage is against nature," "Atheism is the devil's tool," "Homosexuality will destroy the world."

So it really is the new agey version of a racist/homophobic church sermon, huh.

# ¿ Jan 15, 2019 19:00

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

BrainDance posted:

I would like to hear more about this famous pig tia

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7zOUJGYzHQY&t=0m45s

# ¿ Jan 29, 2019 10:36

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Fallen Hamprince posted:

If the PRC leadership had really wanted to make Chinese literacy easy they’d have swapped out writing systems entirely for a syllabary like Zhuyin. This would have the disadvantage of making untransliterated Classical Chinese literature unreadable to non-specialists, but Classical is already difficult for modern Chinese speakers to read, let alone write. It would also make typesetting way easier.

I can already imagine the hot takes about the communist party wanting to cut off access to older cultural material.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2019 17:47

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Sure.

quote:

To a western ear, the year of the swine may not sound particularly auspicious. But the Chinese zodiac sign of the pig is usually considered lucky, since it represents wealth and good fortune.

As the Sinocised world ushered in the lunar new year on Tuesday, China’s leaders must have been praying for some of that luck as they struggle with a slowing economy, burgeoning trade war with the US and a series of symbolic, and politically dangerous, anniversaries.

It is an open secret in China that many members of the officially atheist Communist party are actually devout believers in Buddhism, Daoism or ancient folk traditions the party derides as “superstition”. At this time of year, temples across the country, many of which were closed or destroyed in the 1960s during Mao Zedong’s cultural revolution, are teeming with party bigwigs praying for luck or consulting fortune-tellers about the year ahead.

Given the importance of numbers and anniversaries in Chinese cosmology, and political life, this year of the pig is particularly portentous.

Most significantly, 2019 will mark the 100th anniversary of the May 4 movement, in which nationalist student protests erupted in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square and across the country. Those demonstrations initially focused on the humiliation of the Treaty of Versailles, which handed German territorial concessions in Asia to Japan instead of returning them to China. But the unrest soon blossomed into a much broader political and cultural movement that led directly to the founding of the Chinese Communist party two years later, and has shaped the country to an extraordinary degree ever since.

Central to the movement was a rejection of traditional Confucian values and an embrace of western ideas, particularly “Mr Science” and “Mr Democracy”. While the former is crucial to current President Xi Jinping’s vision of a powerful modern nation, the latter gentleman remains a pariah in modern China.

The long list of significant anniversaries this year also includes 70 years since the founding of the People’s Republic, 60 years since the failed Tibetan uprising that forced the Dalai Lama to flee to India, 20 years since the start of a crackdown on the Falun Gong spiritual movement and 10 years since race riots killed hundreds in the predominantly Muslim region of Xinjiang.

This year is also the 30th anniversary of the student democracy protests in Tiananmen Square that ended in a massacre on June 4 1989.

It may seem coincidental that so many significant anniversaries seem to fall in a single year. But, to a large extent, it is the importance of anniversaries themselves that has led to so many stacking up together. Without getting bogged down in the finer points of Chinese astrological numerology and the significance of “celestial stems” or “terrestrial branches”, suffice to say that anniversaries involving multiples of 10 or 12 are especially momentous.

The 1989 Tiananmen protests attracted so much popular support in part because their student leaders explicitly drew parallels between their demonstrations and those of their patriotic predecessors in 1919. Communist elders delayed sending in the tanks for months because they felt it was too risky to crush such a movement on the 70th anniversary of the May 4 protests, which they claimed as the precursor to their own revolution.

While it has been overshadowed in history by the subsequent massacre in Beijing in June, there was also a violent crackdown in Tibet in March 1989 after protests erupted to mark 30 years since the Dalai Lama fled over the Himalayas.

The significance of these dates is heightened by the Communist party’s fixation on anniversaries. Mr Xi himself has made celebrating the “two centenaries” — the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Communist party in 1921 and the 100th anniversary of the People’s Republic in 1949 — central to his ideology of “rejuvenating” the Chinese nation.

China’s leaders are acutely conscious that commemorations of past events have historically been used to express demands for political change. The secret police will be especially vigilant for any signs of dissent, even as most of these dates go unmarked. If you visit China from abroad this year you will probably notice the internet is even slower and more censored than normal.

There is one final milestone the Chinese Communist party will be watching closely. This is the year that the party’s time in power will exceed the reign of the Communist party of the Soviet Union, which ruled the vast Russian empire from victory in the civil war in 1922, until the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991.

If the party can make it through this pig year without mishap then it really will be one for Mr Xi to celebrate.

I'm the Sinocised world

# ¿ Feb 6, 2019 05:55

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Not necessarily, Germany around 1900 was also a rising industrial powerhouse that was trying to shake up the world order of the time (much more aggressively than China, mind you). We know how that turned out.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2019 10:58

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

It might as well be when the usual housing policy consists of "gently caress you, got mine".

# ¿ Feb 22, 2019 07:35

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

so is people lusting for a few dozen million deaths in China like a regular thing in this thread

# ¿ Mar 30, 2019 16:47

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Modest Mao posted:

2008 financial collapse definitely caused a mass emigration of recent college graduates to asia

funny when western people do it they're expats but if browns do it they're refugees

It's "economic migrants" (bad!), not "refugees" (tolerable, but it would just be so costly to welcome them all, you know...).

# ¿ Apr 2, 2019 06:25

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

sincx posted:

His election undermines centrist leaders in democratic countries by emboldening opponents on both sides. Macron and Merkel, for example.

This might come as a surprise but not everything people do in other countries is a reaction to US politics. I can't speak for Germany, but the French leftists opposing Macron were there before opposing similar policies by his predecessors (and universally hate Trump). If anything from the US is emboldening them, it's the election of Ocasio-Cortez.

Kassad has issued a correction as of 06:43 on Apr 3, 2019

# ¿ Apr 3, 2019 06:39

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

R. Guyovich posted:

not everything people do in other countries is a reaction to us politics...

but this ny democratic primary was really a kick in the pants!

Hmm yes, I undermined my own argument at the end there, didn't I? I meant for a relatively small number of leftists (I was in a rush and so I had to :justpost:

). And it's less kick in the pants and more "oh how nice, some good news for once".

# ¿ Apr 3, 2019 07:49

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

coathat posted:

The chicoms have invented telescopes!

No checkers game is safe.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2019 16:00

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

cargo cult posted:

how is reactionary russia taking a kinder-gentler approach to muslim separatism than china is

That's just because they already crushed the Chechens.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2019 15:13

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Too long have we ignored the threat of China's Monkey King blockbusters

# ¿ Apr 26, 2019 10:32

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

China will build string of military bases around world, says Pentagon

quote:

But target locations for military basing could include the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and the western Pacific.

I wonder how the people putting out these reports can resist cursing George W. Bush and Dick Cheney every other page.

# ¿ May 3, 2019 06:51

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

It's especially funny now that the Iran deal falling apart is in the news again. How could the Chinese government not take a deal with the USA seriously??

# ¿ May 10, 2019 10:13

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

quote:

I know the unspoken reason for my dismissal. You do not work under the Communist Party without knowing the risks.

loving

# ¿ May 10, 2019 12:01

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

caberham posted:

non westerners moving to Europe or USA pick up the language, they might not be great but they still do

A big part of that blog post is him being bewildered at being treated like an immigrant (with a dash of denial about how immigrants are treated in the USA).

Kassad has issued a correction as of 13:38 on May 10, 2019

# ¿ May 10, 2019 13:36

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Trammel posted:

Ex-pat's don't move to China, and the Australian experience is that there's plenty of adult immigrants who never really picked up the language.

White people really hosed up Australia, yes.

# ¿ May 10, 2019 13:52

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

quote:

In another scene that stands out during the otherwise fairytale-like performances set in ancient dynasties, the skyline of a modern city is suddenly submerged by a massive, red tsunami that transforms into the bearded face of Karl Marx, before it is wiped away by a shining light radiating from an image that vaguely resembles Li Hongzhi.

lmao

# ¿ May 16, 2019 07:24

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1128971552568037376?s=19

China found a way to weaponize birds, obviously.

# ¿ May 16, 2019 12:07

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Their economy is still largely dependent on exporting things abroad, of course they're going to be for open trade.

Edit: That's really not difficult vvv

Kassad has issued a correction as of 12:57 on May 20, 2019

# ¿ May 20, 2019 10:13

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Big fan of those about forceful tech transfer from Western companies that just happen to operate in China for no particular reason.

# ¿ May 21, 2019 11:43

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Known Lecher posted:

I, too, get whipped into a frothing rage by the trials and tribulations of poor, put-upon transnational megacorporation

I already said I find it funny when US or European companies whine about tech transfers after making a shitload of money operating in China for the last 3 decades, yes.

"They were supposed to let us outsource without trying to cut into our bottom line! :qq:

Kassad has issued a correction as of 13:25 on May 21, 2019

# ¿ May 21, 2019 13:23

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 15:19

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

yeah let's trust the USA with Donald Trump's at the helm instead lol

# ¿ May 23, 2019 17:08

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