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Godholio posted:That's how they've treated all the villains except Vader. It's nothing new. Other villains never did anything. Snoke was prominently featured whereas Darth Maul, for example, didn't do anything and showed up briefly at the end of TPM. Jar jar loving Binks got better treatment than Snoke and, arguably, Luke. The Shep fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Dec 23, 2017 |
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We've reached the point where we're pointing to the prequel trilogy to defend the new trilogy. George won.
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Godholio posted:Who cares? Vader is the only Sith who ever got a backstory, and it was trash. Leaving it in mystery is a pillar of Star Wars. Yeah, it's not like they completely set up the character in the first movie for payoffs we never got or that his actions/powers are internally inconsistent across the two movies. It's totally cool with me that the guy who apparently singlehandedly resurrected the empire and constructed a planetary sized weapon couldn't envision or predict his own death, mid-trilogy, in the cheesiest possible manner with a lightsaber he conveniently placed right next to him. Seconds after showing his ability to read minds. We shouldn't have any issue with this at all.
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Not an argument.
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Sax Offender posted:Snoke thought he had complete control of Kylo, who managed to mask his thoughts with very careful control. Kylo was never really shown as a character with strong amounts of self control or deep introspection. He's often shown having physically violent outbursts. This is made worse by the fact that there's really no (or very little) passage of time between the two movies which steals more from Kylos arc where be could've been shown here as someone who did complete his training and was humbled by his defeat at the hands of rey. I actually disagree that Finn should've sacrificed himself. He should've been captured which could've been a callback to what happened to Solo at the end of Empire. But like all other plot points, anything interesting or that could be built off of in ep 9 was wiped away. And the comparisons of the emperor to Snoke are not warranted. The emperor was a background item in the original trilogy, whereas Snoke was prominently featured in TFA. Also, the OT doesn't allow room to question the empire since the story starts from that point, but in TFA and TLJ we are correct to question Snoke and the prominence of the first order simply because we've seen the empire defeated in the previous movies. If the new movies existed in a vacuum, sure, but there's history to the universe they built that we somehow shouldn't be questioning I guess. The Shep fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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Godholio posted:According to Rian Johnson, none of the loose ends in TFA (what we assumed were setting things up for Eps 8 & 9) actually had any defined plans at the time. He had to figure out what to do with all of it. I wish he figured something out other than 1) kill 2) ignore 3) downplay.
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You just don't understand Rians vision, man.
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