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Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Wedge Antilles owns, fight me if you disagree.

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Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Oh I loved this movie, and I'm a mega nerd on the Star Wars front, but it is going to piss off the worst types of fanboys, and I'm quite glad to be honest.

Seriously, it's a bold move to more a less have several characters more a less loudly tell the audience, "the past is the past, we doing our own thing now" and I love it for it. TFA was a great movie but it was a fan service movie through and through, and was just Disney's way of saying that they knew the franchise's roots and could build upon that. This was them saying "ok, we're done reminiscing about old poo poo, time to do something new"

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Prop Wash posted:

I'm also glad that as usual the Internet VFW is the only place on SA that isn't a loving mess. Don't bother checking out the CineD thread.

If this thread/forum didn't exist, I'd go to reddit to discuss this movie before I went into CineD and subjected myself to that garbage.


Hey so people who saw the movie,

Was I the only one who geeked out at the space B-17's? Cause that def. felt like a homage to Lucas using movies like Dam Busters and the like as inspiration for the OTs space battles


Oh and slight bit of bad news, Pablo Hidalgo, the guy who is basically in charge of Star Wars lore and what not now, confirmed that even though Disney bought Fox, there is still one notable person who has to sign off on a release of an unaltered OT on blu ray and what not.


So until he dies or Disney forces him to do it, it's not happening apparently :(

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Prop Wash posted:

Regarding your spoiler, it was probably that (and I appreciate the concept of Space Bombardiers) and also a nice upgrade to the B-wing. I had thought the B-wing was an extended universe creation, but apparently it appeared in episode 6. What I really like about whatever the new bomber is called is that it's the first time they've really nailed the "large bomber formation" and "escort fighter" concept. They tried with the Y-wings, but they just seemed like slower, older, worse X-wings. The only thing I didn't like was that the B-wings were apparently made of tissue paper soaked in gasoline. If you're going to make them big slow bombers that the TIEs can engage immediately, then at least give them an energy shield or something. I think the space combat has always been a Star Wars strength, and this movie maintained that while building on the foundation.

I've always viewed Y-Wings as the SBD's of Star Wars space combat. Good at bombing and torpedo runs, but slow as poo poo and incredibly vulnerable. I never understood the concept behind B-Wings, but they seemed cool as a kid. I was also glad to see A-Wings show up again.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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The big rumor about why Lucas won't allow the original cuts to be re-released is that his ex-wife would be entitled to royalties if that happened and he can't let that happen. She helped cut and edit ANH because it was a royal mess before she got to it.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Godholio posted:

Edit: Oh, and I didn't catch this, but Carrie Fisher's dog Gary Fisher had a cameo:



Apparently he was also at the premier and perked up when she was on the screen. :(

Holy poo poo that is both equally parts awesome and sad.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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MazelTovCocktail posted:

I dunno, if only because it would have had to have occured on 2006, and clearly that wasn't a problem.

Also Ralph check your PMs

Yeah, I remember asking someone about that and they said it was something to do with the laserdisc versions (which is where the 2006 versions are sourced from).

Either way, it's stupid and I'm gonna get real mad about Star Wars if they don't release a proper box set soon. I've held off on buying the blu-rays for this long so another year can't hurt.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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I read this article, and I pretty much agree entirely with the authors take on the movie.

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-last-jedi-defense/

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Godholio posted:

How often do flag officers explain to O-3/4s what's going on? He was also on the poo poo list at the time.

This has been my go to explanation for people who get all up in arms about why Poe wasn't brought in from the get go.

Yeah he's a commander but he's still junior to an admiral and I can't imagine she really wants to take the time to explain to her subordinate who's shown to be bold but a bit reckless what's going on when he'd just as likely disagree with that plan and attempt to do his own thing.


Also if she explained to him the ultimate plan there goes that bit of tension that helps move things along.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Sax Offender posted:

"We have an escape plan, but it will require stealth and discipline, neither of which you have exhibited recently. Dismissed."

That makes Poe look like he needs to learn something in the end. As written, it looks like he's the only one even trying to save the resistance until the sudden reveal.

A big theme of the movie is how dumb/blind hubris can make you and Poe is certainly guilty of that. He thinks because he's such a hot shot pilot he needs to know everything or influence every decision. In the old movies, he'd be given an assignment or a front row seat during the planning process to help move things along.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Justin Godscock posted:

You have no idea how nerdy I got in the theatre when they used ion cannons.

I was explaining to my brother in law and his wife tonight why that and Y-Wings being used as actual space SBDs ruled so loving much for nerdlingers like myself.

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Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

Wait that was A-wings in the beginning too yeah with the female pilot? Not that you saw them do much. Were the A-wings in the original or were they edited in?

A-wing best wing

Nah we we're talking about Rogue One in regards to Y-Wing usage.

But yeah, A-Wings first appeared in the original cut of ROTJ.

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