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Neurolimal posted:Why should a US embargo against either apply to trade between them? Is it smuggling if both parties want it to happen? This is basically the Jesus Christ consent meme. The arms embargo was put in place by the UNSC, not the US, and renewed several times with zero vetoes from Iran's partner Russia, most recently in resolution 2722. I'm not going to get into the targeting discussion at the moment.
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adebisi lives posted:Is the implication of this supposed to be that whether or not a country is under an "embargo" relies on the whims of Russia? Not in an affirmative sense but it easily could've been blocked at their whim. The implication which I was going for is that it certainly isn't a "US embargo"
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/Ian_Fraser/status/1748700957297316209 E: oops I was reading the demining operation subpage on the royal navy's website. Still, it's not the operation the was spun up in response to the recent attacks as it predates them by some years. What mlmp08 posted is more accurate. Kagrenak fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jan 20, 2024 |
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Bohemian Nights posted:https://english.aawsat.com/arab-world/4819096-jordan-says-attack-targeting-american-soldiers-was-not-its-soil What reason would the US have to not simply announce the attack was on Al-Tanf? The US acknowledged an attack on that base as recently as mid October so it's not like there's some sort of cone of silence around its continued existence. Just seems like an odd time to start lying about something like that. E: it would also be strange for Jordan to release a conflicting view of the attack so 
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HouseofSuren posted:Ships that are only going to western countries are facing insurance issues, no one else Ah is that why total transits are down 90% YoY, despite these nations not comprising nearly 90% of traffic? Is that why English language African media has articles like this one? https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/east-africa-braces-for-further-rise-in-food-fuel-prices-over-red-sea-crisis-4512884 If you want to make the argument that on the balance the Houthi actions are worth it, I'll listen but this isn't just affecting Westerners toys and treats.
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HouseofSuren posted:Wait. Do you have any evidence that Ethiopia sent fighters to Yemen? Because I sure can't find any. Even if we took it as a given that they did, does that legitimize a food crisis being imposed against their population?
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As more time has passed and more ships have been targeted I'm definitely more convinced they were just bad at getting the correct info at first and are largely only targeting linked ships at this point. Their accuracy (of targets, not of direct hits it seems) absolutely looks to be going in the right direction. I still don't buy that it will have a large enough effect on policy outcomes to be worth the likely impact on food prices in poorer nations imo, even if emotionally it seems like a decent direct action. But the true extent of either is yet to shake out, so we'll see.
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Feb 10, 2024 17:25
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Pretty shocking results from Pakistan, they really didn't do a very good job rigging the election the way they seemed (from a very casual observation) to be trying to. I wonder who will end up forming a coalition when it all shakes out. Not loving the seemingly steady increase of instability in one of the world's nuclear powers at such a chaotic time to be honest. But I feel like I'm throwing stones through glass living in the US so.
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Feb 10, 2024 23:35
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Kchama posted:Not by lobbing missiles at random and/or innocent people, which is the point of contention here. This is the crux on it. Every argument made in favor of their actions hinges on accepting as a given that the blockade will actually change Israel's actions in any meaningful way. There's essentially zero evidence for this either way to be fair, but we can see that even harsher sanctions against less wealthy countries than Israel have not really corrected their actions historically. I bet I could find many people who are supportive of the Houthi blockade (frequently quite rightly, I might add) previously calling Western sanctions overly broad and punishing the uninvolved, yet they don't apply the same calculus here. The Red Sea blockage will likely affect African food security far before it moderates the Israeli pursuit of ethnic cleansing.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Then it all seems like it should be really important to focus on stopping the genocide in Gaza even if people don’t care about Palestinians, if the Houthis are causing so much problems. This is what I do day to day but this isn't an organizing space, it's a discussion space. Given that, this otherwise pragmatic call to action just turns into a thought terminating cliche that gets dragged out over and over when people discuss the issues which posters actually disagree on. Also it's not like I can go yell at my Houthi Senate representative at their house or threaten to support their primary challengers like I can with Warren or Markey
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:If you support stopping people who are doing a genocide also bombing people attempting to stop a genocide because the group fighting back against the extermination are using questionable methods, it looks like to me you’re still just supporting a genocide. What a loving leap to take. One can be critical of the efficacy and potential side effects of a form of direct action and not support the thing the direct action is targeting. For a relevant example, I think the strikes on the ground in Yemen but the US and UK are a huge mistake. They're unlikely to provide any utility beyond what the escorts already do and will likely only serve to solidify opposition to the West in the region. Yet at the same time I don't support the Houthi blockade of the red sea due to its likely low efficacy and probable follow on effects on food security.
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