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FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/927673257230327808

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FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
https://twitter.com/wburema/status/929277376684584960

:chanpop:

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Brother Friendship posted:

At this point I can't imagine that Saudi Arabia's aim is anything less than a complete famine along the lines of those seen in the 18th and 19th century throughout India and Asia. We're talking about the complete collapse of society and there is nothing that the United States is going to do about it, especially with Trump! in charge. I'm not sure if any famine from the 20th or 21st century will compare to it.

i mean there's the biafran famine from 1968-70. millions dead. that's actually a great comparison because britain sent massive amounts of arms to the nigerian army, helping their blockade starve the igbo. much like the US is doing with saudi arabia now.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
What kinds of consequences are likely if Trump ends up moving the US embassy to Jerusalem this week?

e: please don't make me post this in the hell thread. i mean repercussions in the wider middle east

FourLeaf fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Nov 30, 2017

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
holy poo poo

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/status/947333776866242560

Is this genuinely significant or...?

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

MiddleOne posted:

First past the post, not even once.

That wasn't first past the post (which is definitely bad), that was the electoral college

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

When you have a system made up of 50 different areas (states) where the majority vote wins all the areas influence (e.collage votes), you have a first-past-the-post system. Hate to tell you.

do you seriously not understand that the system which forces us to consider FPTP in 50 different areas in the first place is the electoral college?

we indeed have a first past the post system which is bad enough, but if it were simply a nationwide FPTP vote hillary still would have won.

however, our electoral college gives massively outsized voting power to states with smaller populations. thus, at the end of the day i'd say the electoral college was the more pressing problem, and wish it could be abolished or least tied to the popular vote.

replacing FPTP with even a basic instant runoff voting system nationwide is still a good idea though.

MiddleOne posted:

The electoral college would be fine if it wasn't built upon the foundation of single-seat districts.

i've heard arguments that single-member districts have an advantage because the voters in the district have more of a connection to the individual they elected, but i'm not convinced that's worth the downsides compared to multi-member districts

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/983146335279943680

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/983148068840398849

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Al-Saqr posted:

I'm putting my money down now:- a strike isnt going to happen, and thanks to trump's bluster Americas credibility as a power projection force has been permanently destroyed.

Yeah it'll be kind of funny if Trump ends up embarrassing the US's image even more than Obama's red line did.

That doesn't mean I support a strike though. It'll either a) be like last year where it's ultimately for show or b) the prelude to yet another disastrous invasion and who knows what kind of response from Russia.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
edited because the saudi govt is just that loving crazy

FourLeaf fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Oct 10, 2018

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Willie Tomg posted:

if you really give a poo poo about him you'll stop driving his forums name on searches, hth

good point

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1051912606221561863

e: twitter formatting

FourLeaf fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Oct 15, 2018

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Tweezer Reprise posted:

they're so loving laaazy fuuuuuck

they know trump just needs any excuse possible to stop caring

the only hope is that the rest of the world will do something, anything

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi/status/1051969421982539776

https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi/status/1051971386149879810

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Spacewolf posted:

Do we mean survive politically, or...survive survive?

https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi/status/1052200980417323008

Sooo... both, maybe. If MbS didn't manage to kill all the threats to his power in his torture hotel, then some of them might be seeing the current situation as an opportunity to oust him.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

This seems like a huge loving deal, but I wonder if the WH will try to downplay it. Their responses to past Taliban attacks have shown that they seem desperate to avoid getting more directly involved in Afghanistan.

FourLeaf fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Oct 18, 2018

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FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
https://twitter.com/VivaRevolt/status/1064292933493551104

is this true?

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