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Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

It might also buffer X seconds, so if it cuts out for a second, you won’t notice the skips.

It’s today’s version of the anti-skip on Discmans!

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eightysixed
Sep 23, 2004

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

It’s today’s version of the anti-skip on Discmans!
Wow, talk about a blast from the past :rock:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

If you hold the watch so it's spinning vertically it skips less.

eightysixed
Sep 23, 2004

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.
Yeah but you have to remember to push the "Skip Protection" button first duh :rolleyes:

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
So in the USA, the only way I can get an Apple Watch that measures SpO2 at this point is if I buy a used model that was purchased before the early 2024 cutoff (which can be verified by certain characters in the model number)? Change of ownership on an old model doesn't affect this?

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Splinter posted:

Change of ownership on an old model doesn't affect this?

Correct. E: also the ones that are being sold now still have the blood oxygen hardware, it’s a software disable, so it’ll likely be reenabled in the future after Apple either wins their appeals or reaches a deal.

Raymond T. Racing
Jun 11, 2019

Splinter posted:

So in the USA, the only way I can get an Apple Watch that measures SpO2 at this point is if I buy a used model that was purchased before the early 2024 cutoff (which can be verified by certain characters in the model number)? Change of ownership on an old model doesn't affect this?

Additionally, if you need to have it warrantied for any reason, you'll likely lose SpO2, since Apple Watch warranties are all hardware swaps.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Raymond T. Racing posted:

Additionally, if you need to have it warrantied for any reason, you'll likely lose SpO2, since Apple Watch warranties are all hardware swaps.

Apple’s permitted to bring in functional SpO2 watches for service/repair and for warranty replacement. (This doesn’t 100% mean you won’t lose SpO2, since what they’re permitted to do is distinct from what they’ll actually do, but the actual judgment provided them with this ability.)

Raymond T. Racing
Jun 11, 2019

Kalman posted:

Apple’s permitted to bring in functional SpO2 watches for service/repair and for warranty replacement. (This doesn’t 100% mean you won’t lose SpO2, since what they’re permitted to do is distinct from what they’ll actually do, but the actual judgment provided them with this ability.)

everything that I've seen is that warranty swaps end up as SpO2-disabled ones

eightysixed
Sep 23, 2004

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.
I’ve had this Series 7 since launch.
How do I turn on SpO2, or did one of the WatchOS updates disable it?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



eightysixed posted:

I’ve had this Series 7 since launch.
How do I turn on SpO2, or did one of the WatchOS updates disable it?

If you've had it since launch, no, it will have it (in the US, anyway, idk about other countries). Open the Blood Oxygen app.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Raymond T. Racing posted:

everything that I've seen is that warranty swaps end up as SpO2-disabled ones

Entirely possible! I’m familiar with the lawsuit and its outcomes, not with the Apple warranty process.

eightysixed
Sep 23, 2004

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.

Endless Mike posted:

If you've had it since launch, no, it will have it (in the US, anyway, idk about other countries). Open the Blood Oxygen app.
Oh, wow, look at that :eyepop:

Yeah, I bought it on launch day, US model and apparently it's been tracking it ever since the day I bought it in the Health App, I just never thought to look for it. I picked my "Favorites" or whatever for the Health app dashboard, and I guess I glanced right over that. Thank you, added :cheers: :h:

(I hope an average of 98% is good over the years I've had it, seems like 100% would be best :ohdear: )

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!

eightysixed posted:

(I hope an average of 98% is good over the years I've had it, seems like 100% would be best :ohdear: )

You may be a zombie

eightysixed
Sep 23, 2004

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.

Splinter posted:

You may be a zombie
:zombie:

Kalman posted:

Correct. E: also the ones that are being sold now still have the blood oxygen hardware, it’s a software disable
This is why I thought that one of the trillion WatchOS updates might have disabled it, but clearly that's not true.

eightysixed fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Apr 24, 2024

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



eightysixed posted:

Oh, wow, look at that :eyepop:

Yeah, I bought it on launch day, US model and apparently it's been tracking it ever since the day I bought it in the Health App, I just never thought to look for it. I picked my "Favorites" or whatever for the Health app dashboard, and I guess I glanced right over that. Thank you, added :cheers: :h:

(I hope an average of 98% is good over the years I've had it, seems like 100% would be best :ohdear: )

Anything over 95% is normal. Below 92% is where you should be concerned, but only if it's staying there since it's not going to have perfect measurements all the time.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

eightysixed posted:

:zombie:

This is why I thought that one of the trillion WatchOS updates might have disabled it, but clearly that's not true.

Nope. Apple won in district court, but lost in the ITC - but the ITC doesn’t have jurisdiction once product is in-country, only when it’s crossing the border and for a limited time thereafter (basically while still in Apple’s possession). They can’t order Apple to disable the feature for customers who already have a watch.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

My Ultra 1 is already down to 88% battery health. I did a 30-minute run today and am ending the night at 10% battery, where it used to be 60. If I hit the gym on a day where I have a late hockey game, I have to charge for a bit in the afternoon.

After years of lovely watch battery life, I’m starting to think that a nuke and start over might be best. I’ve been rolling on the same backup since like iOS 3, including many betas. That’s gonna suck so much and take forever. :sigh:

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
My S8 is at 86% health and I’m usually down to 20-30% by 6pm with one morning run in the books. Did a hard reset but still kind of iffy. It doesn’t really bother me too much when I’m working from home, but when I have an out and about day I’m mildly annoyed that I get the battery warning before I get home.

I wish it would just drop below 80 before my applecare expires in September :|

Also Weather complication is just randomly but consistently flasing “Loading weather…” again. Seems to update when my iPhone disconnects from WiFi so I’m wondering if it’s something with my network at home. Can’t figure this poo poo out to save my life.

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

some kinda jackal posted:

My S8 is at 86% health and I’m usually down to 20-30% by 6pm with one morning run in the books. Did a hard reset but still kind of iffy. It doesn’t really bother me too much when I’m working from home, but when I have an out and about day I’m mildly annoyed that I get the battery warning before I get home.

I wish it would just drop below 80 before my applecare expires in September :|

Also Weather complication is just randomly but consistently flasing “Loading weather…” again. Seems to update when my iPhone disconnects from WiFi so I’m wondering if it’s something with my network at home. Can’t figure this poo poo out to save my life.

I mean… there are known ways to degrade a LiON battery… like drain it to zero repeatedly

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I know it's bullshit to shut off core functionality of an expensive gadget you paid for, and if you're mad about it you probably should be, but one bit of advice I got is that turning off AOD does have a huge impact on battery. My series 8 is still at 95% health and with no workouts it loses about 40% of its charge a day. Logging a five hour hike is about 30-40% of its charge.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
FWIW I turned off AOD the day I bought the S8.

It might just be luck of the draw, honestly.

Evis
Feb 28, 2007
Flying Spaghetti Monster

Shutting off raise to wake also makes a big difference.

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some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I just kind of went through and disabled all the active stuff I never use.. Siri, raise to wake, umm.. a few other things..

I do use raise to wake every now and then but I'm actually ok trading that for a few more hours and just tapping my watch if I need it. I actually found raise to wake kind of hit or miss where if it works it's great, and if it doesn't work then I have to dramatically overexaggerate raising my arm to get it to comply which never fails to get a laugh out of whoever I'm around.

I could force kill my battery but honestly it's not something I want to put much concerted effort into. Knowing me I'd start and then forget about it, and end up with like 80% on the dot the day my AC+ expires and get the best of both worlds :lol:

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