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you can download it from the bsd ports or theres a potentially hacked up version if you search on google. the dock is better then osx, i havent checked out the source code but it looks light, durable and almost enterprise
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 13:52 |
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# ? May 5, 2024 19:54 |
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i freaking love the 90s
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 13:54 |
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my new dog posted:i freaking love the 90s are you aware that ive taken college classes?
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 13:57 |
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i went to college, now i touch computers badly
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 14:12 |
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paging notorious b.s.d.
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 15:15 |
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the cde theme for swing is real bad and i don't know why it still exists
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 15:19 |
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i don't really, op, but nbsd probably does
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 16:30 |
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carry on then posted:the cde theme for swing is real bad and i don't know why it still exists swing is real bad and i don’t know why it still exists
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 17:45 |
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OldAlias posted:swing is real bad and i dont know why it still exists existing is real bad and i don't know why we still bother
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 18:08 |
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cde source code is nightmare fuel if you look at the legacy unix ports of cde the binaries are literally 20 years old because no one knows how to build the god drat thing
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 18:21 |
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the saddest thing about the build mess is that the best (read: stupidest) part of cde is not yet available on linux due to build issues dtksh god's gift to idiot shell scripters now you can have the power and flexibility of motif with the readability and debuggability of shell code it's loving magical here is a lovely example of drawing an empty window, thanks to brendan gregg (more famous for better work) code:
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 18:24 |
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it builds on linux just fine (i haven't installed it but i tried a few dtksh programs and they worked)
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 21:46 |
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erm, it did at one point (my build was from a few months ago when i dicked around with it), i don't know if it still does today
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 22:00 |
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There Will Be Penalty posted:it builds on linux just fine i guess it is time for me to try cde again lol
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 22:59 |
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cde was almost a good project. there were a lot of good ideas in there: uniform look and feel, a single sdk, standardized RPC methods to do rich copy/paste and that kind of thing unfortunately, as far as i can tell, development of cde pretty much stopped in 1993. and really all of it was written by hp. it wasn't truly a multi-vendor project, and that strangled it. what a pity
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# ? Nov 13, 2017 23:00 |
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what makes the dock so good?
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 04:30 |
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since ur all here: sol-air-is or sol-are-is?
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 04:31 |
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SolyarisBest Bi Geek Squid posted:what makes the dock so good? enlightenment is worse
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 04:35 |
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carry on then posted:since ur all here: sol-air-is or sol-are-is? The latter
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 05:25 |
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I don't even really know what Solaris is or what it was for other than it was an operating system that at some point was p deece and had influence on the development of Linux or something
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 05:26 |
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Solaris was cheaper than the other options and didn't crash so much. That's about all really.
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 05:37 |
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:what makes the dock so good? you can move it around your desktop, i think it looks better than osx, supports multiple desktop and has cool menus
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 13:44 |
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one of my future projects is adding compositing and compiz to cde compton works on the latest cde release it should be as easy as adding a few headers and updating the draw function
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 13:48 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the saddest thing about the build mess is that the best (read: stupidest) part of cde is not yet available on linux due to build issues that is something a monster would make =( ive looked through the cde terminal source code and it looks pretty organized
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 13:55 |
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Captain Foo posted:The latter see me too but everyone around me at work pronounces the former interesting. also, it's a unix system, op
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 14:56 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cde was almost a good project. there were a lot of good ideas in there: uniform look and feel, a single sdk, standardized RPC methods to do rich copy/paste and that kind of thing i am sure that didn't help, but the main competition running on hardware that cost a fraction of the hardware cde ran on (and largely demanded in the early days), combined with said competitor having a cheap/free dev tools and sdks where the unix vendors still bent you over a barrel on that stuff (i think the cde sdk was still $4000+ for solaris into the late 90s?), likely remains the deeper answer
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 14:58 |
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You can still choose CDE if you do an install of a commercial Unix if you like (I think it might still be your only available option on an AIX install; HP-UX and Solaris let you choose ancient Gnome instead iirc). Personally I preferred olvwm back in the day.
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 17:49 |
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i swear the pcs in the public library in my town centre used something like this when i was a nipper. i remember the thought that they were something that wasn't either windows xp or like, os 9 (or whatever my incredibly old mac at home used) freaked me the gently caress out as a very small c conservative child
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 18:05 |
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I vaguely remember terminals at my library using some kind of mainframe system
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 18:19 |
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the furniture store i went to last had 5250 connections to iseries boxes for all their point of sale stuff lmao
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# ? Nov 14, 2017 23:58 |
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Silver Alicorn posted:I vaguely remember terminals at my library using some kind of mainframe system dynix, the popular library whatsit, ran on weird proprietary operating systems for minicomputers i think they ported it to unix at some point but i wouldn't know. all that poo poo is before my time really
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# ? Nov 15, 2017 00:40 |
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carry on then posted:the furniture store i went to last had 5250 connections to iseries boxes for all their point of sale stuff lmao iseries didn't become popular until the 1990s, and grew throughout the decade. how weird a thought is that? the system with the 5250s might not have been installed unitl 1999 or something
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# ? Nov 15, 2017 00:42 |
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Captain Foo posted:I don't even really know what Solaris is or what it was for other than it was an operating system that at some point was p deece and had influence on the development of Linux or something solaris was the best of the old dead proprietary unixes least weird, best documentation, most software packages available etc
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# ? Nov 15, 2017 00:43 |
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Generic Monk posted:i swear the pcs in the public library in my town centre used something like this when i was a nipper. i remember the thought that they were something that wasn't either windows xp or like, os 9 (or whatever my incredibly old mac at home used) freaked me the gently caress out as a very small c conservative child X terminals talking to unix were briefly popular in libraries, in order to provide web browsing on the cheap without having to taint the network with windows
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# ? Nov 15, 2017 00:45 |
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my computer broke =(
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# ? Nov 15, 2017 05:26 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:dynix, the popular library whatsit, ran on weird proprietary operating systems for minicomputers googled dynix and yep, that is absolutely what I remember from my old library
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# ? Nov 15, 2017 05:40 |
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nbsd you forgot to log out of your alt
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# ? Nov 15, 2017 06:35 |
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both the OpenWindows and CDE desktops were utter clown shows compared to NEXTSTEP at least OpenWindows tried to be interesting though, CDE just tried to be a Brutalist knockoff of Windows and OS/2
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# ? Nov 15, 2017 06:43 |
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carry on then posted:the furniture store i went to last had 5250 connections to iseries boxes for all their point of sale stuff lmao which one where, I know people who will want to talk to them about taking that poo poo off their hands (if for no other reason than to prevent it from winding up in The Mainframe Kid’s idiot hands)
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# ? Nov 15, 2017 06:48 |
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eschaton posted:both the OpenWindows and CDE desktops were utter clown shows compared to NEXTSTEP nextstep was single-vendor and tied to a programming language not in actual use in the field. it never had a chance. edit: also nextstep's desktop is totally unusable without the "clip", wtf were they thinking eschaton posted:at least OpenWindows tried to be interesting though, CDE just tried to be a Brutalist knockoff of Windows and OS/2 cde's declared project goals were to rival windows 3.1 for usability. so, yeah. given the state of the unix desktop at the time, shooting for windows 3.1-grade interactivity wasn't a bad goal
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