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There's going to be a showdown tomorrow at the CFPB (or at some DC courthouse, whatever) https://twitter.com/peteschroeder/status/934965719736909824 Apparently there are several legal opinions as to whether the President can appoint an acting director (which he did and the CFPB's own counsel supports), or whether that position is automatically head by the deputy, Leandra English, who is filing suit as a private individual. https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/934590691350544384 https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/934914338669854720  Some memes: https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/934977416178659329 https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/934978689451921408 https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/934968112340000770
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Yeltsin!
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Nov 27, 2017 04:14
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Executive privilege.
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Nov 27, 2017 04:16
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Obviously this can only be settled via a no holds barred match... ...IN A STEEL CAGE!!! WE'LL SELL YOU THE WHOLE SEAT, BUT YOU ONLY NEED THE EDGE
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Nov 27, 2017 04:25
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Actually, I'm the real cfpb director, all the other guys are fakers, plz donate to my patreon
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Nov 27, 2017 05:15
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hmmm... wats cfpb
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Nov 27, 2017 08:51
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Taintrunner posted:Obviously this can only be settled via a no holds barred match... wanna see mulvaney get his rear end beat by english
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Nov 27, 2017 08:58
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there better be a west side story dance fight for the position
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Nov 27, 2017 09:11
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what terrible thing has he appointed mulvaney to do
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Nov 27, 2017 10:22
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a helpful bear posted:wanna see mulvaney get his rear end beat by english Jose posted:what terrible thing has he appointed mulvaney to do reinstate slavery op
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Nov 27, 2017 12:08
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this is hypernormal and, therefore, normal
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Nov 27, 2017 12:17
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https://twitter.com/PatrickMRucker/status/935163326665027584
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Nov 27, 2017 16:14
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if mulvaney wants to be director for the Center For Proud Boys so badly, he should be able to name all cereals in existence, including muesli brands
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Nov 27, 2017 16:19
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If I'm reading it right the president normally has the authority to do this, but the CFPB was specifically designed to be free of outside interference and has it's own succession rules - and the Trump admin is basically just saying "this law is for nerds, get out of the way, nerd"?
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Nov 27, 2017 16:24
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zegermans posted:If I'm reading it right the president normally has the authority to do this, but the CFPB was specifically designed to be free of outside interference and has it's own succession rules - and the Trump admin is basically just saying "this law is for nerds, get out of the way, nerd"? The Trump admin (and the CFPB's general counsel, which is weird) is arguing that the Dodd-Frank law establishing the CFPB and establishing the order of succession at the bureau is deferential to the President's powers under the Federal Vacancies Reform Act. The FVRA doesn't have a "unless otherwise provided for" clause that I'm aware of, so the two laws are in conflict. This is not nearly as cut and dry as it's made out to be, and is going to have to be decided by the courts. The fact that the CFPB general council has apparently issued a memo concurring with the Justice Department that the FVRA takes precedent is not good for Cordray's successor. The DC Circuit Court is packed with Clinton and Obama appointees, and they'll be the ones hearing the case, so that's good for English. She may be able to get a restraining order against Mulvaney until they can hear the case, as the irreparable harm requirement on her side is pretty cut and dry. CommanderApaul has issued a correction as of 16:40 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Nov 27, 2017 16:35
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After this reform the CFPB but give it commissar squads. 
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Nov 27, 2017 16:41
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Does the CFPB do anything anyway, I always heard it was kneecapped from the get-go, or was that more "it's not communism therefore it's bad" internet leftist stuff
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zegermans posted:Does the CFPB do anything anyway, I always heard it was kneecapped from the get-go, or was that more "it's not communism therefore it's bad" internet leftist stuff why not both
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Nov 27, 2017 16:51
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bold prediction: cordray will run for ohio governor 2018 and win, he'll run for president in 2024
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Typo posted:bold prediction:
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Typo posted:bold prediction: If we can make this a Cordray Moore ticket I can get behind it.
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i wanna go back to a simpler time when something like this was considered a gross abuse of power by obama that was necessary because the people calling it such refused to hold hearings for anyone he nominated for anything
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Nov 27, 2017 17:14
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FROM THE OFFICE OF: LEANDRA ENGLISH, ACTING DIRECTOR OF CFPB TO: Facilities staff Please remove all staplers from Mr. Mulvaney's office and replace his pens with crayons.
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Nov 27, 2017 17:49
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this is how the civil war will start
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is this something specific to the CFPB, or is this a way he can appoint people in "acting" positions everywhere without needing to get senate approval?
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Nov 27, 2017 19:52
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a muesli brand mulveny should check out is, "Alpen"
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Nov 27, 2017 19:55
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i cant bleieve mulrainey brought loving donuts to work, he was supposed to bring all the cereals and a blindfold to his initiation rite loving shitehead!!!1 hes gonna ruin this office gdi 
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Nov 27, 2017 19:56
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Duscat posted:is this something specific to the CFPB, or is this a way he can appoint people in "acting" positions everywhere without needing to get senate approval? Among a lot of other things, the FVRA allows the president to appoint anyone who is in a senate-confirmed job to be named, in an acting capacity, to another senate confirmed job until the Senate confirms a replacement. Funny enough, if Mulvaney is going to serve in an acting capacity, Trump can't nominate him for Senate confirmation. You can't serve in an acting capacity to a position that you are nominated to.
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CommanderApaul posted:Among a lot of other things, the FVRA allows the president to appoint anyone who is in a senate-confirmed job to be named, in an acting capacity, to another senate confirmed job until the Senate confirms a replacement.
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Nov 27, 2017 21:56
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get that OUT of my face posted:this is what obama did a ton of because the senate wouldn't play ball, right? and back then senate republicans were whining about this being unconstitutional? He did some recess appointments to get around Republican fuckery, and got smacked down by SCOTUS over what the definition of "recess" is. Both chambers have been having pro forma sessions since the Bush years, if not earlier, to prevent recess appointments. Bright-line rule is now a pro forma session every three business days. Longer than that and the chamber is recessed and recessed appointments can be made. Acting appointments under the FVRA are different, but possibly also unconstitutional as a usurpation of the Senate advise and consent role. I don't believe it's ever been challenged in court.
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CommanderApaul posted:He did some recess appointments to get around Republican fuckery, and got smacked down by SCOTUS over what the definition of "recess" is. Both chambers have been having pro forma sessions since the Bush years, if not earlier, to prevent recess appointments. Bright-line rule is now a pro forma session every three business days. Longer than that and the chamber is recessed and recessed appointments can be made. .. until now...
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Along with a 30-day hiring freeze, Mulvaney said he has put an immediate 30-day hold “on any new rules, regulations and guidance. Anything in the pipeline stops for at least 30 days while I see what’s going on and kick the tires here at the bureau.” He also said he will stop payments for 30 days to the civil penalties fund, which has more than $50 million, until we “get a handle on what that fund is all about before we make any distributions.” quote:When the Bureau collects a civil penalty through an enforcement action, that penalty is deposited into the Civil Penalty Fund. The money in the Fund is pooled and can be used to compensate victims who haven’t received full compensation for their harm through redress paid by the defendant in their case. lmao he's stopping payments to people harmed by predatory financial institutions
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Mayor Dave posted:Along with a 30-day hiring freeze, Mulvaney said he has put an immediate 30-day hold “on any new rules, regulations and guidance. Anything in the pipeline stops for at least 30 days while I see what’s going on and kick the tires here at the bureau.” He's Hitler
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Mayor Dave posted:Along with a 30-day hiring freeze, Mulvaney said he has put an immediate 30-day hold “on any new rules, regulations and guidance. Anything in the pipeline stops for at least 30 days while I see what’s going on and kick the tires here at the bureau.” literally "shut it down until we(I) figure out what's going on"
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Isn't there also a case to be made that Mulvaney can't both be Director of the OMB and acting CFPB Director at the same time? Or can he?
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i'm the boss, also i have no idea what my job is or what we do here, so everyone just stop doing things for at least a month or until i figure that out, i look forward to working with you. in a month. you might be fired. idk
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its really illuminating seeing folks in govt bureaucracies and the state department and so forth react to the way private sector employees have been treated under their aloof technocratic laissez-faire domestic policies for decades
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can't they just ignore him. i mean i know that sounds silly, but like, he's one guy.
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