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namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Seaside Loafer posted:

I really hope that in the next PMQ's the absolute boy says something like 'I have an email here from Bob Jones in Colchester, which says - In my job, in the contract it says any use of work computers and internet connection for accessing websites for viewing pornographic material is gross disciplinary misconduct and is grounds for instant dismissal - does the prime minister agree that this is a standard protocol?'

I doubt he will though, he to decent :(

I keep hoping one time that the five questions are:

Why won't you call an election?
Are you afraid to call an election?
Over the next year X people will be made homeless due to universal credit and austerity, shouldn't you call an election now to give them their democratic right to vote before they potentially lose it?
Etc

Just needle the poo poo out of her.

2: 2 can be as bad as 1, it's the loneliest number since the number 1.

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

ultrabindu posted:

So the porn was legal then but extreme now?

It would be wonderful if Green hadn't actually done anything wrong until his own party changed the rules on him.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jedit posted:

It would be wonderful if Green hadn't actually done anything wrong until his own party changed the rules on him.

You shouldn't look at porn when at work.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jedit posted:

It would be wonderful if Green hadn't actually done anything wrong until his own party changed the rules on him.
Extreme porn legislation was Gordon Brown, although it was enacted in no small part due to a letter writing campaign by a single church, who were almost certainly Tories, all as part of a knee jerk response to the murder of Jane Longhurst.

I won't paint idiot knee jerk responses as a purely New Labour thing, but they sure seemed to have a lot of them.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Miftan posted:

You shouldn't look at porn when at work.

What if you're a porn editor.

Last Emperor
Oct 30, 2009

I thought watching people get hosed was just Tory policy?

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
It’s not so much the content but the fact that there is clear evidence that the person responsible for negotiating Brexit spent hours and hours jerking off, on company time, instead of doing his job. If they had found out that he had been raiding in world of Warcraft or bidding on pottery on eBay then it would be just as bad.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Miftan posted:

You shouldn't look at porn when at work.

Who hasn’t though?

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Cerv posted:

Who hasn’t though?

On a work computer?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/936307232353988608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009

learnincurve posted:

It’s not so much the content but the fact that there is clear evidence that the person responsible for negotiating Brexit spent hours and hours jerking off, on company time, instead of doing his job. If they had found out that he had been raiding in world of Warcraft or bidding on pottery on eBay then it would be just as bad.

You're mixing up Damian Green with David Davis.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

I won't paint idiot knee jerk responses as a purely New Labour thing, but they sure seemed to have a lot of them.

I mean, that's what you get when you have a party obsessed with the media and what it thinks of said party. It's the inevitable slippery slope from the Rapid Rebuttal Unit.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

ultrabindu posted:

You're mixing up Damian Green with David Davis.

He's still a cabinet minister so I think the point is valid, but man, it being David Davis would've been even funnier.

Edit: this whole thing is apparently from the time when the Tories were in opposition and Brexit was just a gleam in Nigel Farage's eye, so disregard.

Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Dec 1, 2017

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Seaside Loafer posted:

I really hope that in the next PMQ's the absolute boy says something like 'I have an email here from Bob Jones in Colchester, which says - In my job, in the contract it says any use of work computers and internet connection for accessing websites for viewing pornographic material is gross disciplinary misconduct and is grounds for instant dismissal - does the prime minister agree that this is a standard protocol?'

I doubt he will though, he to decent :(

Did you see Thornberry v Green PMQs wednesday? it was good, she opened with it and then proceeded to stomp him over the NHS while he looked as traumatised as the staff that found his thousands of adult documents

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

SulphagneSocialist posted:

He's still a cabinet minister so I think the point is valid, but man, it being David Davis would've been even funnier.
Based on his competence in other arenas, Davis probably didn't manage to find any porn on the internet. He's the guy from that Mail article typing 'BIG BREAST' 'GREAT BIG BREAST' into google but still failing to find anything.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Randomly found this while I was looking for someone else, and found it an interesting read -

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/election-97-blairs-long-trek-to-victory-1259422.html

(A longish article on the 1997 campaign, written just after the election).

Interesting what changes and what stays the same, isn't in? Tories riven by Europe, losing their reputation as the economically competent ones...but lefty Lib Dems, a totally different Labour, Tories being kinda pro-immigration and even pro-Euro.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

Based on his competence in other arenas, Davis probably didn't manage to find any porn on the internet. He's the guy from that Mail article typing 'BIG BREAST' 'GREAT BIG BREAST' into google but still failing to find anything.

You say Google, I say Michel Barnier looks up from the latest brief DD filed him and says several concerned words in French to his colleagues.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!

Guavanaut posted:

Based on his competence in other arenas, Davis probably didn't manage to find any porn on the internet. He's the guy from that Mail article typing 'BIG BREAST' 'GREAT BIG BREAST' into google but still failing to find anything.

And old man saying "pornography please, computer" into his mouse's laser hole.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

SulphagneSocialist posted:

He's still a cabinet minister so I think the point is valid, but man, it being David Davis would've been even funnier.

At this point I'd say that David Davis jacking it in his office all day would be a marked improvement to Britain's negotiating strategy.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Spangly A posted:

Did you see Thornberry v Green PMQs wednesday? it was good, she opened with it and then proceeded to stomp him over the NHS while he looked as traumatised as the staff that found his thousands of adult documents

After he thought that he'd told the police to cover it up, no wonder he looked traumatised.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Not Operator posted:

mouse's laser hole.

Don't kink shame

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Not Operator posted:

And old man saying "pornography please, computer" into his mouse's laser hole.

He's got a ball-mouse.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Miftan posted:

He's got a ball-mouse.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Don't kink shame

(Better here imo)

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Oped from Arlene reiterating the DUPs border stance in the Belfast telegraph today:


quote:

In the past 48 hours there has been much speculation around a possible deal between the UK Government and Brussels on how to prevent a hard border after Brexit.

As the key EU summit on December 14-15 approaches, the question of the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland was always going to attract greater attention, and rightly so.

The United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union as one nation and we are leaving as one nation.

The Government have a clear understanding that the DUP will not countenance any arrangement that could lead to a new border being created in the Irish Sea.

Indeed, we do recognise that the Prime Minister has been categorical on this matter in the House of Commons.

Some 72% of trade in and out of Belfast Harbour is with Great Britain.

Almost two-thirds of local agri-food produce is sold within the UK and Northern Ireland manufacturing sales to GB are worth six times as much as those to the Republic of Ireland.

As I indicated at our conference last weekend, we want to see a sensible Brexit and we have reiterated that while United Kingdom/Republic of Ireland arrangements may be necessary as we exit the EU, there can be no arrangements agreed that compromise the integrity of the UK single market and place barriers, real or perceived, to the free movement of goods, services and capital between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom.

We support the continuance of the Common Travel Area for the movement of people between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland.

Our place in the UK single market is non-negotiable. Moves away from UK market rules would pose unwelcome questions on the integrity of our products among GB retailers.

The reality is that a new era of co-operation will not be achieved by exiling key local sectors from their primary marketplace. That is not to say we do not prioritise retaining the trade and other links we hold with our closest neighbours in the Republic of Ireland and we continue to take the view that we do not want to see barriers to trade and co-operation with the Republic.

Those who say the United Kingdom's integrity and vibrant cross-border relations post-Brexit are mutually exclusive are wrong.

Earlier this week in Brussels the former director of the World Customs Organisation said a 'smart border' concept - involving new technologies, online customs systems and trusted traders schemes - could provide a seamless solution under any political outcome. He stressed that this template could be generic to all UK borders with the EU.

In practical terms, complete solutions to the border cannot be secured until the terms of the future UK-EU trading relationship are known.

For our part, we will continue to work with the Government on the details of negotiations as they progress and we are determined to secure an outcome that works for all parts of the United Kingdom while recognising the reality of our geography and history.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Any UKMTers living in/around Portsmouth? Rent looks manageable, but how is it for public transport, weather, poo poo to do etc?

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat
Arlene wants no special status for NI... same rules as Scotland, Wales and England.

Abortion illegal in NI
Gay marriage illegal in NI

:thunk:

breadshaped fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Dec 1, 2017

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
:haw:

Something that will brighten your day as it has mine, Chipping Norton is losing it’s NatWest because of the RBS cuts.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Bedshaped posted:

Arlene wants no special status for NI... same rules as Scotland, Wales and England.

Abortion illegal in NI
Gay marriage illegal in NI

:thunk:

I still think one of the funnier opposition motions Labour could put down is the legalisation of gay marriage in NI, considering its basically being run from Westminster now. Drive a nice wedge between the Tories and their religious fanatic partners.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
The headline on the National front page this morning is about how UK concessions on NI borders will give a "lifeline" to Scotland to negotiate common market access or something. I can see the NI situation being used to leverage a pro EU indy drive when Brexit really starts crunching.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Renaissance Robot posted:

Any UKMTers living in/around Portsmouth? Rent looks manageable, but how is it for public transport, weather, poo poo to do etc?

Weathers decent, microclimate between Portsdown Hill and the Isle of Wight means it’s always pretty temperate.

Public transport is getting better(ish). Main corridors through the city have First and Stagecoach, but it tends to die back to just First and odd timetables outside of that. But they now take cards so it’s almost 2005. Train covers a lot of Inner suburb > town / Gunwharf Travel as well. Traffic is loving awful and even worse on match days, even worse than that if there’s an accident on any of the bridges.

Avoid buckland, round Queens Street and Somers Town if your rents are looking suspiciously cheap.

There’s shedloads to do. Even more if you like boats.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Coohoolin posted:

The headline on the National front page this morning is about how UK concessions on NI borders will give a "lifeline" to Scotland to negotiate common market access or something. I can see the NI situation being used to leverage a pro EU indy drive when Brexit really starts crunching.

Scotland can’t negotiate anything with the EU.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

kustomkarkommando posted:

Oped from Arlene reiterating the DUPs border stance in the Belfast telegraph today:

Why DO the DUP hate the EU so much?

Nova69
Jul 12, 2012

Total Meatlove posted:

Weathers decent, microclimate between Portsdown Hill and the Isle of Wight means it’s always pretty temperate.

Public transport is getting better(ish). Main corridors through the city have First and Stagecoach, but it tends to die back to just First and odd timetables outside of that. But they now take cards so it’s almost 2005. Train covers a lot of Inner suburb > town / Gunwharf Travel as well. Traffic is loving awful and even worse on match days, even worse than that if there’s an accident on any of the bridges.

Avoid buckland, round Queens Street and Somers Town if your rents are looking suspiciously cheap.

There’s shedloads to do. Even more if you like boats.

Alternatively, live here in Southampton because it's the better Hampshire city...

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Coohoolin posted:

The headline on the National front page this morning is about how UK concessions on NI borders will give a "lifeline" to Scotland to negotiate common market access or something. I can see the NI situation being used to leverage a pro EU indy drive when Brexit really starts crunching.
Do you think the Swiss cantons are in a position to negotiate their own deals with the EU, too?

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Coohoolin posted:

The headline on the National front page this morning is about how UK concessions on NI borders will give a "lifeline" to Scotland to negotiate common market access or something. I can see the NI situation being used to leverage a pro EU indy drive when Brexit really starts crunching.

I wonder, would it be possible to hold a conditional IndyRef? As in, a Yes vote indicates "In the event that the UK exits the EU, Scotland withdraws from the Union on the same day and negotiates to stay in the EU. If no exit, then nothing changes". It might require some preliminary assurances from Brussels, but I can't see why this wouldn't be a good route to pursue.

Also, I've decided to try and stop calling it "Brexit" because (a) breakfast confusion, and (b) it rhetorically excludes the effects on NI, much like the negotiations themselves. Is there any better, more all-encompassing term available?

Pissflaps posted:

Scotland can’t negotiate anything with the EU.

Of course they can, just not officially

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Pissflaps posted:

Scotland can’t negotiate anything with the EU.

jBrereton posted:

Do you think the Swiss cantons are in a position to negotiate their own deals with the EU, too?

Not that I agree with him but I believe his point is that Scotland would be negotiating this with the UK government, on the threat of IndyRef2.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Coohoolin posted:

The headline on the National front page this morning is about how UK concessions on NI borders will give a "lifeline" to Scotland to negotiate common market access or something. I can see the NI situation being used to leverage a pro EU indy drive when Brexit really starts crunching.

Even by the standards of The National that's some fantasy bollocks. First, there will be a hard border with Ireland because that's what the DUP want, secondly, even if there wasn't there's no loving way that changes the position of Scotland. A hard border with England would be an even bigger disaster than leaving the EU. Honestly, the Beano prints more reliable journalism, but I guess dreaming about another referendum allows you to just wave away the damage that placing nationalism above socialism does to poor Scots, as well as poor Welsh, English & Northern Irish people.

From one stupid person to another, have Dan Hodges dropping a big fat wedge of historical revisionism.

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/935527531591192576

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

forkboy84 posted:

From one stupid person to another, have Dan Hodges dropping a big fat wedge of historical revisionism.

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/935527531591192576

Some of the replies to that are even better https://twitter.com/SurferObserver/status/935548984835362818

JEREMY HITLER NKVD POL POT STALINMAO *frothes so heavily at the mouth I blast off to the moon*

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Kurtofan posted:

lol tromp is never going to visit at this rate

Don't say it like that :(

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Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

WeAreTheRomans posted:

I wonder, would it be possible to hold a conditional IndyRef? As in, a Yes vote indicates "In the event that the UK exits the EU, Scotland withdraws from the Union on the same day and negotiates to stay in the EU. If no exit, then nothing changes". It might require some preliminary assurances from Brussels, but I can't see why this wouldn't be a good route to pursue.

I feel like that's too much information in a single question and loads of people wouldn't know what they were doing when they answered it.

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