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Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

i get it but presumably they are supposed to put guns in those peoples' hands and have them shoot it a couple times so that they can do better than 50% AT 6 loving FEET AWAY

The problem with police training is that the part of their training that deals with threat escalation is based around a grizzled veteran cop screaming at you that you're about to die and if you don't shoot now and fast and immediately without thinking about it the perp is going to kill you, pull your driver's license out of your wallet, go to your house and kill your family too.

You can spend eight hours a day on the range and it won't matter if you've been programmed to poo poo your pants in fear and terror respond with violence

Police accuracy rates are so low because they're reflective of combat ability during an active panic attack

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Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

once elon musk can use neuralink to kill the fear in their brain this will no longer be an issue

Police realistically need months or years of intensive training in discipline, conflict de-escalation and rules of engagement

Naturally we will try to solve this problem instead by wiring their brains or giving them drugs

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Hatebag posted:

israel bombing lebanon seems like a pretty dumb decision lol. what're they gonna do next, bomb syria and iran?

The Israeli response so far makes it seem like they have no objective or direction and are just hitting the standard beats because they don't know what else to do but definitely need to maintain appearances for their westernized population

Bombing that residential the other day on live TV, bombing hospitals and refugee camps, hitting random villages in Lebanon, they're fighting the media war in the usual way they fight it, targeted at the usual audience, other Israelis. "We're striking back... at Our Enemies! A win against terror!".

If they were thinking farther ahead than that I don't think they'd have bombed Lebanon

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

That's the expression of a CNN reporter pratfalling their way to a reward winning report

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

It's so obvious that one hand does not know what the other hand is doing over there right now

At this point an internal coup would not surprise me

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

HallelujahLee posted:

what exactly would change the nutjob in charge is literally calling for genocide

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promised to “change the Middle East” in the country’s war with Hamas.

“What Hamas will experience will be difficult and terrible … we are going to change the Middle East,” the 73-year-old leader told officials from southern Israel.

“This is only the beginning … we are all with you and we will defeat them with force, enormous force.”

It was touched on by another article earlier in the thread but the Israeli military is generally a secular force and the Israeli government is aligned more with religious authority, the policy of antagonization and aggression towards Palestine has been more in the governments camp than the military and there's more secular people in service than Orthodox so the schism exists to support a coup even if the willpower hasn't materialized

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023
Yeah definitely not suggesting this war ends with a reformist coup, just that bibi probably wont last very long in power at this rate

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023
Hearing word that the NYPD came in contact with a powdery substance at the rave site and have completely exhausted the Israeli supply of narcan

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023
If y'all are syqing other subforums, stop

Its just gonna draw heat on this thread

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

HallelujahLee posted:

come on jack you really think they arent hate-reading this thread

at least these succs maybe get the insane psychos posting them banned

I agree with you in spirit but we went down this road with the Ukraine thread already and it nearly got cspam closed

I'm not gonna be the snitch but you guys are playing with fire, it's not worth eating a ban over lovely posts in D&D that nobody's gonna do anything about.

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

crepeface posted:

have SYQs even been banned?

They're completely banned in the Ukraine thread

They're not technically against the rules here yet but that has never stopped a mod before

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

ikanreed posted:

I do wonder if opening cspam made d&d worse, and gave the decorum reactionaries control

It definitely made d&d worse imo

To be fair though cspam basically exists because decorum posting had made the politics forums unusable to most of the site during an election year.

At that point the cancer had already metastisized

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

keep punching joe posted:

Doesn't America and the EU just give Israel an infinite ammo cheat though?

This would be true if America and the EU weren't pouring more than 100% of their ammunition producing capacity directly into Ukraine

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

speng31b posted:

To clarify the rules, syqs are not illegal in cspam and not currently illegal in this thread. They got banned in the Ukraine thread through a combination of excessive overuse (people who didn't know how to turn it off even when it wasn't insane or funny enough) and stupid forums war bullshit.

I expect they will not be banned in this thread as long as they are not overused to the point of excess and do not lead to stupid forums war bullshit.

I only brought it up because we had two people doing jt on the same page and it looked like it was ramping up fwiw

Ty for moderating this mess

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Am I missing something here? Kidnapping kids? When did this happen?

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

Some of the hostages are kids, that's it basically

Where has this been reported, or is it just being assumed?

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

salartarium posted:

Completely tangental, but modern agriculture is crazy and there are a bunch a common crops that only grow in the desert. Like almonds. Normally, there’s only a scattering of trees in nature, but with irrigation people have lined up trees in industrial operations.

I am sure Israel will fairly distribute water to irrigate palestinian crops

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Jel Shaker posted:

you have to be 18+ to be allowed into a rave so it’s physically impossible that any hostages were children

I'm sorry but I'm not gonna wring my hands over the "lies about their age so they can do drugs and gently caress in the desert" demographic of 16 year olds, at least not in this context

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

it was always going to be like this

You are really swinging to be the worst person in this thread today

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Hatebag posted:

the last peaceful protest was a shooting gallery where the israeilis brutally murdered 223 people and shot over 9000, but maybe if they had tried a few more times the israeilis woulda run out of bullets

We watched tanks rolling over palestinian daycares in the 90s and 00s, anything short of house to house ethnic cleansing wouldn't move the needle

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/mck_beth/status/1711430202708971646

oh hey once you start giving "civilians" arms what does that make them?

or is CNN going to have to start calling them "non-military militias"?

maybe they can get some tips from the Ukrainian babushkas in Festung Kharkiv

This is the dumbest thing they could do holy poo poo

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Death By The Blues posted:

Bibi live speech right now, announcing there is still a number of Hamas military members in Israel and Israels response will echo for generations:

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1711452770966929473

Skipping straight ahead to rounding up collaborators and political opponents I see

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

gradenko_2000 posted:

this is so loving dumb. Hamas did not need Iran Russia Trump to tell them that "launching lots of rockets can overwhelm Iron Dome"

I mean, was that common knowledge before?

The system has mostly outperformed expectations up until now, or at least that was the impression I got from reporting on iron dome

The fact that you can just break the system by launching enough rockets is pretty big news

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

they think that the real world works like the end of How The Grinch Stole Christmas

That's so spot on, lmao

If we just use the right words and a cute enough Palestinian child we can convince Israel to create a real Palestinian state where people have human rights and access to clean water and nutritious food

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

gradenko_2000 posted:

yes? like it's a basic principle of missile defense that as long as the thing you're launching is cheaper than the thing intercepting it, all you need to do is Launch More Rockets

Yeah but that's a different problem than "too many rockets, system goes down" and that was the problem being reported

I guess they're having ammunition issues at this point which they are trying to resolve

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/10/09/israel-hamas-iron-dome-missiles/71120068007/.

"Too many rockets, ran out of anti rocket rockets"

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

ikanreed posted:

Shouldn't Hezbollah, at the very least, get upgraded to "soldiers"? They're a uniformed army with ranks.



I know I know, blatant media racism, but really, the gently caress is a fighter

A +1 bab progression class that gets combat feats every other level

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023
Cspam militants issue grim threat to burning man attendees

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Sancho Banana posted:

These are specifically west bank settlers. Unlike your average dude in Tel Aviv who was just unfortunately born in a genocidal apartheid state, these guys have actively, physically participated in the removal of Palestinians from their homes and land, and many are already armed and trained. They're basically paramilitaries. They're not IDF members but they're not exactly regular "civilians" either.

I just don't picture the settler crowd as being self determinating tough guys

I picture this crowd as a generation of upper middle class failsons and faildaughters who moved to a place because they were told they could just take somebody else's house instead of having to work for a living

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Us intelligence officials assure us that Iran is only days away from building a nuke

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

i was just about to ask if there was any more reason to trust osint accounts than catgirl kulak or whoever

Well, we were able to verify that Israel had sent 300k shells to Ukraine almost instantly after that tweet hit the thread

Also iirc cat girl poster wasn't exactly sharing insider information, they were speculating based on available evidence

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

genericnick posted:

It doesn't matter at all though. They were never going to intercept more than a handfull of missiles. If you can launch a few thousands missile defense is going to do gently caress all.

So basically it's a functional solution for stopping drunk militants from taking pot shots into Israel but useless for even the barest coordinated attack

It makes that strategy of antagonism a real winner that's for sure

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

This guy is how I imagine 95% of settlers, just tubby out of shape and unemployable losers who moved to tel Aviv with their more successful parents but they can't afford a house because they have no good jobs or prospects so they just take housing from Palestinians

I imagine a lot of terrible Americans would take this option if it was still available to them

Just the worst loving people on earth

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

This dickbag failed in the US and moved to Palestine to steal a house

Of course he did

I'm sure the whole time he lived here he had very strong opinions on property rights and the evils of socialism too

Freeloader scum are freeloader scum no matter what I guess

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

americans did take this option, 150 years ago

That's what I meant when I said "if it was still available to them" lol

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

text editor posted:

now I'm wondering if Ukraine really did sell them weapons

Why would they even respond to this story if they hadn't?

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

HallelujahLee posted:

i mean its true the un isnt going to do anything

What could they even do?

Send in peacekeepers, to watch from the sidelines and do nothing?

The UN doesn't have any power or authority to do anything and mostly exists to legitimize western interests on the international stage which is why the UN is isolated in America and not literally anywhere else

It would have made so much more sense to have the UN in the Mediterranean somewhere but instead we put it two thousand miles out of reach of any countries other than America and our hat

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

HallelujahLee posted:

nothing its a worthless organization

All the times we sent the UN into Africa to peacefully observe and occasionally participate in war crimes

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Typo posted:

America very much hates the UN

If we actually hated the UN we would have left by now, get real

The US has veto power over anything impactful the UN can do and can literally just ignore everything else because the UN is incapable of sanctioning or punishing the US without the support of the security council (which the US has veto power over)

The US loves the UN. It's just a very easy political target for people who can get riled up one way or another because they weren't paying attention in civics class and never figured out the UN was just an extension of American power

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Kind of hosed up to put all these conscientious objectors up alongside a known antisemite like shadow the hedgehog

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Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Frosted Flake posted:

I'm a bit confused about why they did that.

Not that Hezbollah is tailored for offensive operations, or at least, it's not the Syrian or Egyptian Army, but they can fire across the border and now that Northern Command has to be put on alert.

I don't get it either. It seems really strange to provoke Lebanon and Syria like this. Why would you want to fight a three front war?

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