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Ghost Leviathan posted:

The whole zen thing is supposed to be more about learning, self-improvement and philosophy, with the pacifism thing being mostly a Western orientalist invention, is my understanding. (though suddenly thinking of the Simpsons minigolf episode where Lisa tries to use Zen to train Bart to improve his game)

Mysteriously, zen places had zero problems with any of the japanese atrocities of ww2 when the soldiers were commiting them

Or the German ones

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thats what the anime is for

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somehow they went the entirety of aquaman without jason momoa being shirtless. i told my sister that and she said that took away her one motivation for seeing the thing

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Was herbert racist against asian peeps

I dont really wanna check myself

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I am getting hype for a linguist getting hired

Dishonoring the memory of fred jelinek

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its best on the 3rd watch. i got bored of the music by 5th time

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2x theaters 3x hbo, dont watch on hbo

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it was rad first viewing and kinda less so by 5th

6th-8th tomorrow here we come

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re: fremen trade: they also have to harvest material amounts of spice in order to bribe the spacing guild w spice to have no satellites over arrakis. so theyre in contact w the guild and probably can trade there

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its not that good but its enough to get part 2 so thats ok

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yeah this is a highly :2bong: compatible movie

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no, showings in san mateo were filled to the gills while showings in san bruno like 10 miles away were empty

i really dont know what goes on there

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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:

Going to write my subjective opinion down now after having seen this movie, but before having read this gay and dead thread on it.

The filmi is long, like it was not cut at all, and finally after 2.5 hours it covered maybe a third of what I consider the main story depicted in the books to be.

Nothing original included in the movie version. So conservative that even mentioning that humidity of urea and from more solid products are recovered in addition to "sweat and tears" was excluded. No hot sex scenes.

Great visuals and beautiful actors as expected from a Hollywood megaproduction. Happy that it got made, and that I paid 15 bucks to see it on the big screen.

theres a 5 hour cut

we are never gonna see it cuz villenueve doesnt believe in that sorta thing

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its failson fuckin up dads pronunciations

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every adaptation has had a hard time w the eyes of ibad, its just hard to film but must be filmed

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gently caress, it may be poo poo

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10/10 imo. i understand the questioning the book bit but i dont care

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this one's deffo for the imax, especially for making the Voice scary as gently caress

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sci-fi authors and ridiculous horniness: like romance authors and ridiculous horniness. or lit authors and ridiculous horniness. or fantasy authors and ridiculous horniness. or ...

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we live in a different age, where porn is basically easy-to-get and free, so drastically reduced levels of horniness are required in non-porn things, that's what's up with the age thing

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yeah, walken's wasted, i agree

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Colonel Cancer posted:

Does this one at least finish the first Dune book or we doing Hobbit all over again??

it finishes. but theres gonna be a third movie w dune messiah, if they make enough money

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its prolly a bet that if you like vicious politics you've read the book already

like how he deleted the variational calculus from tales of your life, and was probably right in doing so

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its also his, like, 50th one, so it may just be him being a jobber for this one

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chakobsa is Space Chechen (compare to the real chakobsa, the Secret Noble Chechen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakobsa), and petersen did take a lotta stuff from chechen instead, is my understanding. so de-arabized but slightly-more-chechenified. the OG source was about chechnya, anyways, but too obscure for the western audience

edit: no he didnt lol. it did sound Caucasian to my ears but he didn't do any of that poo poo. absolute lol

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there is no colorable way in which this is worse than lynch dune

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look, they're all riffing off of riefenstahl's nazi poo poo, but it's a revival of that specific nazi poo poo. here's a warhammer thing for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTFywoAXuQU&t=66s

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wizard2 posted:

it is cool that we get to have a real movie now and again, as a treat

I think the nut-kick the entire industry got for the roni is proving to be pretty permanent, unfortunately

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the world comes built, and the main point about Giedi Prime is that It Is Decadent AF

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i'm actually rooting for the studio execs to make villaneuve shut up exactly one (1) time and make him release an extended edition

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StashAugustine posted:

I genuinely don't remember it being brought up in the book but I'm happy to be wrong

it's until they're tired, that's in the book

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skasion posted:

What do you do if you get where you want to go and the worms not tired yet. Just drive in circles?

you get off very carefully

the book posted:

The troop began working down the worm’s sides, dropping off, blending with the sand beneath their cloaks. Paul marked where Chani dropped. Presently, only he and Stilgar remained.

“First up, last off,” Paul said.

Stilgar nodded, dropped down the side on his hooks, leaped onto the sand. Paul waited until the maker was safely clear of the scatter area, then released his hooks. This was the tricky moment with a worm not completely exhausted.

Freed of its goads and hooks, the big worm began burrowing into the sand. Paul ran lightly back along its broad surface, judged his moment carefully and leaped off. He landed running, lunged against the slipface of a dune the way he had been taught, and hid himself beneath the cascade of sand over his robe.

Now, the waiting ....

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Mr. Merdle posted:

Hahaha my friend said "why doesn't the worm just throw them off"

I had to explain that the worm isn't real and it's a thematic and narrative device used to showcase the Fremen vulnerability to and mastery of the desert.

watsonian answer is the hooks

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oh, that's been carefully and ruthlessly excised to make sure the UAE and Saudi censors are OK with it. prolly the same w/ jihad and all that

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Zopotantor posted:

It would make more sense if the sand plankton were photosynthetic in some way. Then at least there would be an energy source.

dune encyclopedia says that the full worm is autotroph. next sentence indicates that its a chemotroph

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/182222/where-does-the-energy-come-from-in-the-dune-ecosystem

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Peter Falk posted:

Where is that implied?

theres a whole scene in the movie characterising stilgar as superstitious by him warning paul about the djinn. pauls facial expression is pretty great

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absolutely not, maniac genocide is a cinch for third movie, which is prolly gonna happen

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look, they read the books. even the later books. they know whats up

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watch it in 4dx then

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Toxic Mental posted:

"Came in a Fremen"

what

this is a snowclone-style thing. original was a yudkowsky cultist's orgy that she made the chart of

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