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I'm still boggled by what anyone would get out of being a preschool teacher but for 20 something manchildren.
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hyphz posted:And the game-as-conversation metaphor seems to work only as long as it’s the “we all know you’re going to win guys, just make it make sense” model. As long as there’s the possibility of that conversation ending with “and then you fail and roll badly and die or take trauma and it takes everything you’ve got to heal up” then it stops being a conversation and becomes an argument or persuasion. And that makes social manipulation fair game because that’s what you do in an argument. It's just a little bit  that you think a conversation about a game that includes a less than optimal outcome must by it's nature devolve into a battle of wills and social skullduggery.
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Jan 8, 2018 17:21
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I will fully admit to walking between raindrops if this is a problem a lot of people have, but at the same time you probably shouldn't be playing games with a shared social contract with people who try and weaponize that contract at all?
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Jan 8, 2018 17:26
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hyphz posted:Well, how often do you normally have a conversation which will at the end have a "positive or negative outcome", that you're invested in? It's when you're trying to persuade someone to do something, or sell something to them, or give you a job, or go on a date, and so on.. and all of those interactions are characterized by social behaviors which don't apply to regular conversations with no such stakes. Except you're not doing that. You're playing a game where a character is trying to do that poo poo. If you're playing the character, you should be invested in having interesting things happen to your character. A character who always wins is rarely anything but loving boring. Are your players literally incapable of portraying characters except by some insane person's idea of what method acting is? Mr. Maltose fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jan 8, 2018 |
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Jan 8, 2018 19:20
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hyphz posted:Right. Now wind back to context. Are these things which would happen in the normal way if this was just a conversation? If not, is it surprising that the RPG conversation isn't a normal conversation and ends up having manipulation in it? Yes, also what the gently caress is wrong with you. Like. Fundamentally.
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Jan 8, 2018 20:54
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I'm sorry for your bad friends who've never seen the vast and varied number of stories where a character is satisfactorially shot in the head. Have a drat movie night, watch The Magnificent Seven or Thelma and Louise. Jesus.
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Jan 8, 2018 21:04
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hyphz posted:What do I mean by manipulation? “I’ve taken a bunch of Harm and the GM is spawning encounters as long as we’re interested. Quick! Everybody get bored!” Man, it's a good thing I don't play games with your players, I have a pretty bad straw allergy. Like. Imagine an actual human being saying or thinking that.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:13
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hyphz posted:"Honestly" means based on the truth, but if there is no map there is no truth. What in the actual factual gently caress, my dude. Also people have spent probably too many posts telling you how they make and determine challenges the player faced, you just seem to have some fundamental inability to understand these concepts.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:20
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hyphz posted:Pretty much any sane person if you have a game with rules based on fun that thus creates a stupid feedback loop. Look at the choices: No one thinks like this but you. It's just loving you. You are the problem in this equation and continue to be the problem.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:21
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thefakenews posted:I'm almost certain that the Blades book says that rumours say no one who has entered the Dimmer Sisters' house has left alive. Rumors are fictional and you have to follow the fiction so nothing can enter the witch house and that's why the game is unplayable.
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Jan 8, 2018 23:29
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hyphz posted:I don't mind that. What I mind is the implication that when the players meet a goblin, they have their PCs throw down their swords and fight it hand to hand with one hand tied behind their back because "we want the game to be a challenge so we'll make it one, and anyway if we failed it might be interesting". No one has said this, what the gently caress is wrong with you, you absolute dipshit.
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Jan 9, 2018 17:01
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Mearls also tweeted about it in a very dogwhistle bullshit way about how it was full of "Industry Unknowns".
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Jan 22, 2018 21:34
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Radio Free Kaiju is a game about Godzilla initiated disasters specifically.
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Jan 30, 2018 00:42
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SirPhoebos posted:Are there any RPGs that work well with just 3 people? Fiasco with three people works like a dream.
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Feb 4, 2018 21:08
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Bad news, you've basically already went back there.
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Feb 21, 2018 16:43
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Insomuch as bad posting can be called a joke, yes.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:18
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food court bailiff posted:yo what the gently caress is this, is the WMH scene awful or something? I just bought a couple of battlegroups Bedlamdan is what you would call a Bad Poster, so you're fine.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:03
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Broke: Some dude killed your parents Woke: Your parents just killed some dude, better get back home and find out what the hell just happened.
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Mar 25, 2018 23:36
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Hotter take: 5E is worse than the other editions of D&D because it's the first edition to have a designer contribute to a harassment campaign.
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Apr 20, 2018 23:59
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gently caress all the way off, Plutonis.
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Apr 27, 2018 23:17
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Plutonis apparently makes first sincere post in posting career, film at 11.
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Apr 28, 2018 18:55
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Moriatti posted:Lol at people who get unironically mad at Plutonis. Caring about poo poo is stupid, yeah.
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Apr 29, 2018 20:35
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Or you could just gently caress off. I'd try that first, actually.
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May 3, 2018 05:08
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Xiahou Dun posted:Yeah this is just dumb and I checked out. Most likely because this is some weirdass sockpuppet account for someone working on the new White Wolf games.
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May 3, 2018 05:19
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That's nice, Zak.
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May 3, 2018 05:26
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That's nice, Zak.
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May 3, 2018 05:29
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I wouldn’t say that MHR is overcomplicated as much as it suffers from being under explained or insufficiently tutorialized, which leads to the same effect of being pretty unintuitive to grasp until rubber hits the road for a bit. I think the new version of Cortex is going to address that pretty well by virtue of not having the license and theming honestly.
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May 10, 2018 00:41
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Or you don't want to give money to Magpie Games, which is another issue to consider.
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May 10, 2018 01:47
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Super excited for the tabletop version of EVO: Search for Eden.
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Jun 5, 2018 20:26
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Covok, buddy, I say this in all kindness but you should probably take a posting break, probably until you've had some sleep.
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Jun 20, 2018 04:36
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Gamergate spun off of the various long running harassment campaigns in the Tradgame space so this is less a spinoff and more of the original recipe boiling over. It probably won't get much traction only because a lot of the other bad actors in that have a lot invested in appearing politically left.
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Jun 20, 2018 12:25
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Yeah, that's the necessary corollary, if no one else is going to pick up the ball and run it he'll just spike it directly into his own nuts.
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Jun 20, 2018 12:38
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gently caress you got mine is less syllables, friend.
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Jun 20, 2018 19:22
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Bedlamdan posted:I posted why I thought Consentacle was a bad idea outside of the one niche context everyone was trying to justify it with, and then made one lame joke about the stereotype that tradgames nerds probably wouldn't actually have boyfriends/girlfriends to actually make Consentacle only marginally less awkward. Bedlamdan posted:Okay, well, tricking your friend and her brother into incest by cardboard proxy, a good time, apparently, gently caress off.
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Jun 30, 2018 03:08
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Laughing out loud at the idea of Naomi Clark being just some nerd.
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Jun 30, 2018 08:02
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To be fair, Plutonis being unable to understand the concept of consent would explain their posts.
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Jun 30, 2018 13:50
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Congrats on your excellent performance of “The Densest Man Alive.” A true master of the craft.
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Jun 30, 2018 21:59
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When it’s faster to list the people who claim the label of OSR and aren’t racist and/or sex pests the label might be a problem, actually.
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Jul 3, 2018 19:28
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No.
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Plutonis posted:So I got this idea for an Isekai RPG system for two skill systems that are called "Insight" and "Professionalism" (that latter one kinda sucks I wanna find a better term) and they are supposed to be excluding ones as the first is how you know the "Meta" on the fantasy setting and the latter how good you were at your field of expertise on the real world and how good you are in one makes you bad at another so if you are a NEET shut-in you have an easier time figuring out how magic works and how monster HP and weaknesses are and even get to guesstimate the plot based on tropes and poo poo and the latter one has you being REAL GOOD at your former profession and being able to maybe bring this kind of unthinkable knowledge to a technologically inferior world but have a harder time figuring out what the hell the fantasy tropes are. So Lasers and Feelings style or are there going to be more concrete layers to them?
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