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The Store
May 2, 2009

i always read 'you can do internet over hdmi cables' on the packaging but i've never heard of anyone doing this ever

i'd like to know if this has ever actually been done

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Valeyard
Mar 30, 2012


Grimey Drawer
why use ethernet to transit your posts when you are already using the sewers

Raere
Dec 13, 2007

tried plugging an hdmi cable into my switch but it wont fit. so no i dont think its ever worked

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

Raere posted:

tried plugging an hdmi cable into my switch but it wont fit.

that's what she said.

Joe 30330
Dec 20, 2007

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Probably some edge case used by system integrators

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004


Millstone posted:

Probably some edge case used by system integrators

real system integrators use cat6a between rackmount switches

but yeah maybe like the 2 russian guys with a van style system integrators

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
Dell had switches that used HDMI for stacking, but I don't know if it was the official Ethernet over HDMI or some other thing.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
i've never used it but my guess is it's intended that your receiver or driver or whatever has a network connection, and acts as a switch so that you can just run the one HDMI cable to a smart TV or projector

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




Raere posted:

tried plugging an hdmi cable into my switch but it wont fit. so no i dont think its ever worked

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

wrong way

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

I've wanted to use it once, i.e. my TV has a network connection and would be nice to hop onto it via HDMI from a set-top-box, but of course it has little to no support anywhere.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
none of this poo poo works

hdmi ethernet
hdmi arc
hdmi cec
hdcp

all the fuckin extra optional things are a pain in the balls

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


this

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

none of this poo poo works

hdmi ethernet
hdmi arc
hdmi cec
hdcp

all the fuckin extra optional things are a pain in the balls

hdmi arc works fine

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
I think I am getting a discount from Comcast by not mentioning it.

Valeyard
Mar 30, 2012


Grimey Drawer

fart simpson posted:

hdmi arc works fine

cec also works fine

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

fart simpson posted:

hdmi arc works fine
its super flaky

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

i can't get hdmi arc to do dts ma, but otherwise works fine

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
all of these things work sometimes, if you have the right equipment, from the right vendor, and the moon is in its right phase

but they were intended to be universal and work perfectly ootb. fell a little short

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



arc works perfectly for me 100% of the time. i don't even think about it and forgot it was a thing. cec works like 95% of the time for me and frustrates me when it decides not to.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

it's pretty easy to run hdmi over cat6

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

hdmi ethernet made less sense to me than thunderbolt

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

hifi posted:

hdmi ethernet made less sense to me than thunderbolt

chunderbolt lol

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Captain Foo posted:

it's pretty easy to run hdmi over cat6

I bought a set of cheap hmdi to cat6 converters to get tv in my bedroom and it's been great, it's probably just a 15 meter run but they didn't even need external power.

Much easier to poke tiny holes through the walls for cat5/6 than to get an entire hdmi plug through there!

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

r u ready to WALK posted:

I bought a set of cheap hmdi to cat6 converters to get tv in my bedroom and it's been great, it's probably just a 15 meter run but they didn't even need external power.

Much easier to poke tiny holes through the walls for cat5/6 than to get an entire hdmi plug through there!

you fished an Ethernet connector though your walls?

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

DuckConference posted:

real system integrators use cat6a between rackmount switches

but yeah maybe like the 2 russian guys with a van style system integrators

You are like a little baby. Watch this

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
I know how to terminate a cat6 cable but not an hdmi cable

also i want to call it cat5 forever

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Endless Mike posted:

arc works perfectly for me 100% of the time. i don't even think about it and forgot it was a thing. cec works like 95% of the time for me and frustrates me when it decides not to.

same also i used to work in product testing for sound bars and av receivers and arc was the one thing that was never an issue

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

all of these things work sometimes, if you have the right equipment, from the right vendor, and the moon is in its right phase

but they were intended to be universal and work perfectly ootb. fell a little short

you’re wrong about arc

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Captain Foo posted:

chunderbolt lol

yeah everything about it is rear end but you can stick a computer in the closet and run one wire to your monitor/tv and have all your inputs and outputs. with hdmi ethernet the only use case is getting ethernet to your smart tv, i guess

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
in the future all communications standards will be rs232

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

what's the diference between cat5 and cat6, physically?

yes i could google this but i'm just terribly lazy

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Sagebrush posted:

what's the diference between cat5 and cat6, physically?

yes i could google this but i'm just terribly lazy

higher twist rate, tighter certification tolerances, in some cases 23awg instead of 24awg conductors

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Millstone posted:

Probably some edge case used by system integrators

itym manufacturer advertising on smart tvs with no open wifi

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004


akadajet posted:

i can't get hdmi arc to do dts ma, but otherwise works fine

arc is basically just a spidf channel so it doesn’t have enough bandwidth for that

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Captain Foo posted:

higher twist rate, tighter certification tolerances, in some cases 23awg instead of 24awg conductors

also that plastic spine thing

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Raluek posted:

also that plastic spine thing

yeah some (6a?) has a giant-rear end + shaped spline in it and that really sucks rear end

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Captain Foo posted:

yeah some (6a?) has a giant-rear end + shaped spline in it and that really sucks rear end

all the regular-rear end 6 ive had to terminate has had it. separates the pairs from one another. is it not ubiquitous?

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Raluek posted:

all the regular-rear end 6 ive had to terminate has had it. separates the pairs from one another. is it not ubiquitous?

maybe it's more annoying in some brands than others. thankfully it's been a while since i've had to terminate anything

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

none of this poo poo works

hdmi ethernet
hdmi arc
hdmi cec
hdcp

all the fuckin extra optional things are a pain in the balls

and it’s all intended for tvs. ergo tvs are poo poo

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