Bloodyshinta1 posted:

Does this mean we are getting a violence jack reboot

Ccs posted:

Ryo is good except he died and couldn't save humanity. Dang.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

I mean at a bare minimum he used Earth as Satan's prison/exile, meaning he basically handed him an army in the form of the previously-wild demons and then either created humanity on top of that powder keg, or at the very least didn't intervene as Satan wiped us all out until it was too late.

Plus all the usual problems of theodicy, of course.

C-SPAN Caller posted:

Didn't literally two of them at the end betray their friends and even celebrated with their torn friends dismembered corpses? gently caress that half

Still enjoyed the show, not perfect and probably could have used a few more episodes so it didn't feel like we went from a shounen monster of the week anime to suddenly revelations

KidDynamite posted:

Also Pshyco Jim loving owns and I don’t know why.

Expect My Mom posted:

it's probably Zenon, he has a third vertical eye like that along with two horns

ninjewtsu posted:

Whenever I hear about poo poo that was added and wasn't in the Manga I always go "drat that was one of my favorite parts"

I mean Taro eating his mom wasn't in the manga? And neither was miko?

Darth Walrus posted:

She wasn’t really much of a character, either, just an indicator of ‘oh, hey, there are other devilmen, and it kind of sucks to be them’. Miko actually has more in common with Jun’s swimming rival from Devilman Lady, although her arc ends... uhh... very differently.

StrixNebulosa posted:

Please, for all that's good, do not read Devilman Lady without being ready to encounter the most rape you've ever seen in any work of fiction. I'm on volume four and I've never seen so much rape before in anything, anywhere, and Go Nagai shows no signs of slowing down. For all he can draw well and do horror well, my god is he willing to put all of his kinks on the table and not in a good way.

It's shocking we got an anime adaptation out of it, honestly, let alone one that decided that Lady needed to grow to be 50ft tall every ep to fight demons, because.... listen, tokusatsu is popular, okay.

Darth Walrus posted:

The old Devilman show is a reference to a concept that first cropped up in Devilman Lady - every time God defeats Satan, he resets the world and Akira and Ryo’s adventures become fiction. It’s an ominous little warning - all this has happened before, all this will happen again - which is delivered upon with the reset at the end, as the old, ruined Earth becomes another moon.

Bleusilences posted:

There is a devilman (woman?) with this body in episode 10, when the devil horde attack area 51.

Darth Walrus posted:

It does not. The hydra/chimera is Zenon, his top lieutenant, who’s a major presence in the endgame but does not blow up the planet. The final panel is Satan weeping over Akira’s corpse as the forces of Heaven descend on him.

Kingtheninja posted:

Skimmed through the Manga today. Kind of surprised to see it was about as graphic as the show. What year did that come out?

Darth Walrus posted:

God is certainly a less actively hostile figure this time around (in the manga, he explicitly obliterates Russia to prevent nuclear war, and doesn’t just turn demons who get too close into salt, but humans as well), but he’s not actively helpful, either. He very specifically does not lift a finger to save humanity, exemplified by the good Christians of Miki’s family dying horribly, and comes across instead as having a single-minded grudge against Satan and the legions of hell - note how the Earth is rejected and discarded at the beginning and end of the series. That also fits with the overall theme of emotion being a beautiful weakness - Satan describes him as ‘cold’, and it matches the logic of the show for the pure, focused, ruthless killer to come out on top, and for that to be a tragedy rather than a triumph.

dogsicle posted:

i was very disappointed in the silene gently caress scene. really lacking in good gently caress

also crybaby psycho jenny is the best version i have scene, oshiyama is a god at doing demon designs

Octo1 posted:

I'm pretty sure that girl is supposed to be Lala from the 70s anime. https://youtu.be/gWGRyxBkvxg

Personal_Nirvana posted:

So about the ending...was God's intervention triggered by Ryo awakening as Satan, or the fall of humanity? Because the time-loop theory (is that canon?) implies that God has a massive gruge against Satan and tries to destroy him everytime he notices his presence. Earth is just colateral damage. Having never read Devilman Lady, does Nagai explain the "resets", or is something open to interpretation?

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

imo the ending thematically defies the time loop.

dogsicle posted:

the acid breastmilk devilman really has it rough

Liver Disaster posted:

I just read a lot of posts since yesterday and to catch up, yes that's Louisa Ferre from SMT:SJ, Miki and Miko are together in two moon world, and whoever recommended Re: Cutie Honey and those that supported this are good people and I appreciate you all.

Liver Disaster posted:

Xinder posted:

So over the past week my gf and I went from being vaguely aware that Devilman is some old series to watching all of Crybaby, preordering the original manga's rerelease, are currently watching the ovas, and planning to watch the vs Cyborg 009 movie since it's also on netflix.

Anything else Devilman branded worth checking out? I know to avoid Lady.

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

So, uh, holy gently caress, TVTropes just informed me that Go Nagai did a really faithful manga version of the Inferno part of The Divine Comedy. Has this ever been translated? I need to inject all of that into my eyeballs right the gently caress now.

Alan_Shore posted:

I read the first volume of Devilman Grimoire and I really like it. It's very different so far (no Ryo, what the heck) but I like the witch stuff, Miki, and it's super gorey. Recommended!

turtlecrunch posted:

Hi I watched this yesterday since it looked like it was 2d and not one of those lovely cgi Netflix animes. I wasn't really...prepared.

I have some questions...

1) What is the significance of the earring one of the rap guys gives to Miki and says it will protect her, then it doesn't protect her or Akira? Satan kind of gasped at it but I wasn't sure if that meant anything. I also wondered if it was supposed to be a parallel to Koda wearing his boyfriend's pendant or Miko carrying Butterfly's glasses, but I couldn't figure out what it meant in that context.

2) Did Miko eat Butterfly or did he die at the party? Was it his body or the rapist's she was keeping at her apartment?

e: 6) What was the deal with that not-Butterfly guy in the clothing shop that tried to get the rappers arrested?

Solice Kirsk posted:

But his hand was sitting outside her apartment wasn't it? I think they left it ambiguous as to what actually killed him on purpose. It could have been other demons at the party or it could have been Miko. I think the fact that it was outside their apartments hints more that she killed him.