|
than our current president? I've been mulling this over in my mind and I think the odds might be above 50%, which triggers an automatic process in the Constitution which does it. Things to keep in mind:
So where do you put the odds?
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 07:33
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 3, 2024 14:14 |
|
|
Mods please fix the typo in my thread title, ty.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 07:37
|
|
|
I dunno man. May i direct you do a wonderful street documentry named Jaywalking by Jay Leno. You will find that your average man on the street isnt so bright.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 07:44
|
|
|
TheDon01 posted:I dunno man. May i direct you do a wonderful street documentry named Jaywalking by Jay Leno. So do you think the odds are like 1%? More than 1 in 100 people off the street could do a better job? Or fewer? I'm not watching a Jay Leno documentary, that sounds like something the CIA uses for torture.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 07:52
|
|
|
Realistically most random people off the street would in practice just reflect what advisers of their general political persuasion told them. A liberal would listen to the Democratic-affiliated advisers and vice versa for a conservative. And this would probably have a similar outcome to most of our actual past presidents. It would basically be a trade-off between two things. On one hand, there would be higher "volatility," in that there's a higher chance of a random street person being a Trump-esque individual, but also a higher chance of them holding left-leaning attitudes that aren't palatable to the wealthy people who always become president under our current system. On the other hand, you would probably have a higher chance of liberal presidents simply by virtue of there being significantly more left-leaning Americans than right-leaning ones (our politicians are currently disproportionately conservative relative to the population).
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 09:31
|
|
|
Are we only counting people who are constitutionally eligible? Or are we talking a Tweenage President scenario?
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 09:41
|
|
|
If the president is a six year old girl, and declares herself a pretty princess, does that trigger a constitutional crisis?
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 09:42
|
|
|
well presumably most people wouldn't be president for the express purpose of theft and ethnic cleansing, so probably pretty good imo
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 09:45
|
|
|
Tunicate posted:Are we only counting people who are constitutionally eligible? Let's say constitutionally eligible but they don't have to be a registered voter or anything like that, let's give the bums a shot. null has issued a correction as of 09:49 on Jan 16, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 09:47
|
|
|
Ytlaya posted:Realistically most random people off the street would in practice just reflect what advisers of their general political persuasion told them. A liberal would listen to the Democratic-affiliated advisers and vice versa for a conservative. And this would probably have a similar outcome to most of our actual past presidents. Interesting analysis. I'm into advantage gambling (poker and sports betting) which is why I started thinking about this topic.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 09:53
|
|
|
Tunicate posted:If the president is a six year old girl, and declares herself a pretty princess, does that trigger a constitutional crisis? in this scenario, id prbabky side with the monarchists in tge ensuing civil war because, hell, that,s cute
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 10:02
|
|
|
powerful thought op
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 10:23
|
|
|
If we are allowed to count on everyone just ignoring a worse person and doing their jobs their own way because the president has no real base of support to worry about then I'm thinking 100%.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 10:41
|
|
|
null posted:Let's say constitutionally eligible but they don't have to be a registered voter or anything like that, let's give the bums a shot. i think you just want a random bum to be president and you know what, same
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 10:53
|
|
|
cuntman.net posted:i think you just want a random bum to be president and you know what, same You know what, I think you might be exactly right. At the very least I'd like to bet on a bum being president and have it be +EV (little advantage gambling joke there to see if we have any refugees from the bygone poker forum in the audience).
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 11:49
|
|
|
Chances are good, even if that are a bum. Someone who has fallen into drug addiction and alcoholism is easily suggestible but probably not a narcissist. At worst they will probably just listen to their advisors and do whatever they tell them to. That's gonna get you a middle of the road status quo president.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 12:34
|
|
|
depends whether the obvious issues that homeless have stack up vs. the obvious dementia trump has, but i'd say if you took a random person off the street, just some random person, there's an 80% chance they'd do better than at least 60% of the average political candidates for that position, because they would be keenly aware of their own ignorance on the subjects they're legislating on, whereas almost every major political figure is insanely arrogant, and actively does not give a poo poo
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 12:42
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 3, 2024 14:14 |
|
|
rudatron posted:depends whether the obvious issues that homeless have stack up vs. the obvious dementia trump has, but i'd say if you took a random person off the street, just some random person, there's an 80% chance they'd do better than at least 60% of the average political candidates for that position, because they would be keenly aware of their own ignorance on the subjects they're legislating on, whereas almost every major political figure is insanely arrogant, and actively does not give a poo poo It's a good point. Most people would be aware of their own limitations and allow themselves the benifit of expert advice. I remember a presidential election, either 2012 or maybe 2008 - hell, it might be 2004 - that had a thing where the press asked the questions in the first and last presidential debate, and the public were allowed to ask questions in the second one. The public's questions were a whole octave more intelligent and sensible What I'm saying is that even in a world where at least 20% of the population is crazy, chances are good OP
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2018 14:37
|
|
