Lid posted:

Allison Mack going to spend decades in jail

https://artvoice.com/2018/03/27/allison-mack-expected-arrested-next/

Gorilla Salad posted:

How would you not delete that?

Maybe he did try to wipe everything, but he had so many he just missed one.

Now we can hope he'll roll over on everyone else in the administration. God I hope so.

Willie Tomg posted:

The Nobel Prize for Excellence In Somehow Making Atrocities Even Worse goes to:

https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/979096695484092421

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Well you know what we say around these parts; always more, always worse.

Willie Tomg posted:

The Nobel Prize for Excellence In Somehow Making Atrocities Even Worse goes to:

https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/979096695484092421

Sneakster posted:

...
Most adults are dangerous predators restrained by opportunity and reputation. ...

Blue Footed Booby posted:

suck my woke dick posted:

this is oblivious (or malicious) bureaucracy.txt, the only thing that matters is efficiently sweeping things under the rug

Blue Footed Booby posted:

SKULL.GIF posted:

Lol that's like all the religious worshippers who ask atheists "So what exactly stops you from murdering and sinning?"

cis autodrag posted:

Or in sports argument stadium: "this is really disrupting my March madness bracket"

AsInHowe posted:

That's not actually what's going on, idiot.

cis autodrag posted:

Your "shoot down any solution that might force us to admit sports have problems" routine ain't gonna fly over here bud. You jump at me with your little baby insults anytime I suggest that there are deeper structural issues at play than a couple bad apples in one college. You are deeply invested in college sports continuing to happen regardless of body count.

If you want to make a structured argument instead of name calling be my guest. You've proven incapable so far.

exploded mummy posted:

It's more the former, if you read the memos the social media monitoring amounted to "here is the latest set of popular tweets and news exposing us as corrupt pedophile enablers"

AsInHowe posted:

Again, not the discussion going on over there, nor here. Quit misrepresenting things to cause drama and fighting.

quote:

Former MSU students say William Strampel had a history of lewd behavior

RJ Wolcott, Lansing State Journal Published 5:32 p.m. ET March 29, 2018 | Updated 7:43 p.m. ET March 29, 2018

LANSING - William Strampel began a meeting in the spring of 2010 by announcing that he’d been told he wasn’t allowed to refer to students in the Michigan State University College of Osteopathic Medicine as his children anymore.

“Except Breanna’s baby,” Strampel said, indicating Bre O’Keefe, a medical student who was then seven months pregnant. “That’s my kid.”

That’s how O’Keefe remembers it. She calls it “one of the most humiliating moments of my life.” Strampel was the dean of the college. Several classmates asked her if what he said was true. It wasn't.

To make matters worse, the meeting was also telecast to the college's satellite sites across the state, she recalled.

Strampel was arrested Monday night and charged the following day with felony misconduct in office, fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct, and two other misdemeanors.

He faces the misconduct in office charge, according to an affidavit filed in support of charges, because he "used his office to harass, discriminate, demean, sexually proposition and sexually assault female students."

Strampel's actions during and after former MSU sports medicine doctor Larry Nassar's 2014 Title IX investigation resulted in two misdemeanor charges of willful neglect of duty, according to the affidavit.

He faces up to five years in prison if convicted.

Four women also told investigators that Strampel either groped them or made sexually inappropriate comments and appeared to offer them favorable treatment in exchange for sexual acts. Investigators also say they found pornographic images on Strampel's computer that appeared to be "selfies" from MSU students.

But two former students say Strampel's "creepy" reputation was well known among students at the college.

Nicole Eastman, who is publicly identifying herself as victim #4 in the criminal case against Strampel, said Strampel had groped her during the college's annual ball in 2010.

She was set to graduate later that year, and told police investigators earlier this year she worried Strampel could have derailed her entire medical career.

"It was accepted behavior at MSU," she said.

Strampel, through his attorney John Dakmak, has denied inappropriately touching anyone and any "quid pro quo for sexual favors in exchange for any type of standing within the university's medical school."

Dakmak also said Strampel, who served as dean of the MSU College of Osteopathic Medicine from 2002 until December of last year when he stepped down for medical reasons, never had romantic or sexual relationships with students.

Neither Dakmak nor Strampel responded to requests for comment made Thursday.

Strampel's inappropriate nature was almost a running joke among students, O'Keefe said. Only, it wasn't funny.

The fall prior to the 2010 meeting, O’Keefe sent an email to Strampel, asking for a meeting to discuss what could be done about her impending clinical placement. Newly pregnant and living in the Lansing area, she didn’t want to be away shortly after giving birth to her daughter.

Strampel agreed to meet but wrote in response that O’Keefe should wear a low-cut top if she wanted to get what she was asking for.

Strampel spent the meeting berating O’Keefe for asking for special consideration. When she received a clinical placement in Detroit, she asked for a second meeting.

She and her then-husband attended the second meeting with Strampel. The dean told the couple that spending two years apart during clinics would be good for their marriage. Strampel told them that the only time he saw his wife during the early years of their marriage was to get her pregnant.

The couple left the meeting shaken. O’Keefe couldn’t believe Strampel would talk about his wife that way.

Fortunately for O'Keefe, she got a placement with Sparrow Health Systems after another student dropped.

“I had very little interaction with him after,” O’Keefe said. “I saw him at a local wedding, and I intentionally avoided him.”

She couldn’t avoid Strampel at her graduation ceremony in 2012. Shaking her hand, Strampel complimented the red heels O’Keefe was wearing. He said they made her legs look good, O'Keefe said.

“This is the final moment of medical school,” she remembers thinking. “I’m getting my diploma and that’s what you say to me?"

Strampel had set off Eastman's creep radar early in her time as a medical student. At a free flu-shot clinic hosted by the college, he talked to her about drinking, she told investigators, and said how “it was good when women were drunk, because then it was easy to have sex with them.”

She was also troubled by his boastful tone as he talked about another medical student who was caught cheating pleading with him in his office.

"It was as if he enjoyed that position of power and her vulnerability in that situation," Eastman said.

After being groped by Strampel at the college's ball in 2010, Eastman said, she didn't think there was anybody she could talk to.

Two other faculty members were in a position to see the groping incident but said nothing about it, Eastman said.

She was prompted to come forward after seeing the survivors of abuse at Nassar's hands testify in Ingham County earlier this year. She reached out to Rachael Denhollander, the Kentucky woman who was first to publicly accuse Nassar of sexual assault.

Eventually, she shared emails and correspondence from Strampel to Denhollander, who forwarded it to the Michigan Attorney General's Office, which was investigating how the university handled Nassar. Then Eastman was contacted by a detective sergeant from the Michigan State Police.

"With the climate we’re in now, people shouldn’t fear coming forward and sharing what happened to them," Eastman said.

AsInHowe posted:

A Rapist posted:

it was good when women were drunk, because then it was easy to have sex with them.” 

stone cold posted:

as it turns out, we should in fact burn down the institutions

stone cold posted:

as it turns out, we should in fact burn down the institutions

tetrapyloctomy posted:

It keeps circling back to this, and it seems more right each time.

PT6A posted:

Yeah I was certain it was necessary like five disgusting revelations ago, now I’m doubleplussure.

In fact, just torch the entire loving NCAA while we’re at it. Poison trees bear only poisoned fruit.

PT6A posted:

Yeah I was certain it was necessary like five disgusting revelations ago, now I’m doubleplussure.

In fact, just torch the entire loving NCAA while we’re at it. Poison trees bear only poisoned fruit.

stone cold posted:

yes, the ncaa is an institution

Feinne posted:

I mean if you burn down the universities that make it up the NCAA will necessarily also be burned down, if you do it after you're just burning ashes.

Though that would be safer.

cis autodrag posted:

It makes him sound almost developmentally stunted it's such a juvenile and monstrous thought. He's a sociopath with the moral decision making process if a horned up 15-year-old. There's no way someone who says something like they doesn't throw off warning signs regardless of topic. That this guy was in charge of something means someone interviewed him and ignored the warnings signs anyway. Or he started low on the totem pole and was promoted in spite of his issues.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Notice that when somebody like Nassar goes down there's a lot of "but he seemed so niiiiiiiiiice!!!!" going around. Same thing here, really; a guy like that will manage to arrange it so that he looks like a pillar of the organization who just cares so much about others. Then it turns out he's a loving creep.

Sneakster posted:

Most adults are dangerous predators restrained by opportunity and reputation. Part of growing up is learning to become a productive member of society that can be counted on to be a team player who can look the other way and capitalize on the opportunity for the sake of career advancement and convenience.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Notice that when somebody like Nassar goes down there's a lot of "but he seemed so niiiiiiiiiice!!!!" going around. Same thing here, really; a guy like that will manage to arrange it so that he looks like a pillar of the organization who just cares so much about others. Then it turns out he's a loving creep.

PT6A posted:

Wouldn’t that be, in essence, destruction of every American university? I’m not saying no, but we better have a good plan to salvage the decent parts before pulling the trigger.

iospace posted:

The NCAA only cares about one thing: money. That's it. It sets "academic standards" but if you know what you're doing, you can offer bogus classes to the players, and as long as you offer them to other students, you're in the clear as North Carolina found out.

Mind you, they look the other way when poo poo like this happens, but guess what, it doesn't involve money so they don't care.

PT6A posted:

Wouldn’t that be, in essence, destruction of every American university? I’m not saying no, but we better have a good plan to salvage the decent parts before pulling the trigger.

OddObserver posted:

Lots of universities aren't involved in NCAA division 1, and D3 stuff isn't anywhere near as corrupting, though there surely are abuses anyway.

PT6A posted:

Unless I'm misunderstanding what's being said?

Sneakster posted:

We can pretend its not a sports culture problem, and sure, maybe its not sports in and of themselves, but: if you observe how athletic kids interact with adults, and squint your eyes, you can get a pretty good feel for the sexual tension. That applies to everywhere from barely legal boys on the local wrestling team in your town, to this so-very-obvious creepy as gently caress caricature of a pedophile who happened to sharing the kiddy diddling spank material with administrators who also could't have imagined what kind of guy Droopy Dog is.

I've never seen sexual tension in a math class, its a den of ugly ugly people or uptight nerds. There rarely seems to be an appropriate occasion to normalize shoulder rubs to help people relax.


Abolish organized sports.

botany posted:

you are really goddamn weird

tetrapyloctomy posted:

I can't imagine someone just decides one day, "I think I'll drug a patient and jerk off on her!"