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I am so loving disgusted with my alma mater right now. We already had a whole bunch of student-athlete rape and sexual assault allegations in just the past couple years that got glossed over, not to mention since I was attending there, and now the board is laughing poo poo off. There needs to be a cleansing from the top down, from rear end in a top hat Board members (I have no idea how this happens) to Simon through the entire athletic department, and if it includes Hollis, gently caress it, bye. Don't punish the students but rip every single person who heard about this and did nothing out of power.
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AsInHowe posted:Don't forget, Michigan State also has a ton of recent football players getting arrested and charged for horrible things. Hey guess what? I mentioned this and I'm not super happy about it either it turns out!!
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Jan 24, 2018 03:30
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AsInHowe posted:Some good news. This is good yes but the Penn State investigation was toothless and that was for football. There has to be serious legal action and top-level changes.
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Jan 24, 2018 04:23
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Henchman of Santa posted:You could argue that they’ll come down harder on a less popular sport (sort of like how they’ve given the death penalty to D3 tennis programs but will never do it to a major football program again) but trusting the NCAA to handle things properly is not wise. True. I feel like the most responsible thing to do would be to let all the gymnasts transfer immediately if they want, wipe out anyone who was associated with Nassar, get a new staff and go from there. But again, if the top isn't handled what does it even matter and how do you tell recruits "yes you won't get sexually assaulted" until a full overhaul takes place? Like sure Kathy is gone but what guarantees do you have that the people in charge of the new coach will do a loving thing to help you if she even reports anything? And really not even just the gymnastics team....it's so pervasive 
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Jan 24, 2018 07:54
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Good https://twitter.com/freep/status/956285391023190022
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Jan 24, 2018 23:02
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lol good job Brian Breslin, that statement is gonna keep looking worse and worse as this keeps up https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/01/24/dianne-byrum-larry-nassar-victims/1063533001/ quote:2nd trustee calls for MSU president to resign https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/01/24/msu-board-succession-simon/1062864001/ quote:Sources: MSU Board of Trustees working on succession plan for Simon exit
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Jan 25, 2018 00:22
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C. Everett Koop posted:The whole post was complaining about the sentence Nasser received. It was expressing empathy to a person who absolutely doesn't deserve it. You're either being deliberately obtuse or you're a loving idiot, or both. The whole post was 'end result this guy is going to spend the rest of his life tortured in solitary'.
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Jan 25, 2018 01:41
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Mahoning posted:your solution to all of this was “don’t allow men to have positions of power over women” completely ignoring that young boys are victims just as often. Also ignored that going up the chain of command many of the people who did absolutely nothing to help the victims were women in this situation.
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Jan 25, 2018 01:55
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Simon is out at MSU  https://twitter.com/GaryMiles_DN/status/956348976328052736
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Jan 25, 2018 03:18
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Henchman of Santa posted:Looks like she didn't put any blame on herself at all Oh definitely not, I wouldn't have expected her to. We'll never know how much she did or didn't know but either way she had to leave, when both Senators and the state House are telling you to gently caress off, might as well just rip the bandaid off.
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Jan 25, 2018 03:25
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C. Everett Koop posted:No, the post was whining about the sentencing. Nasser getting hundreds of years instead of just "life" is the entire point of his sentence, to make it explicitly clear the amount of damage he had systemically done to these women. To just say "yeah, you assaulted a lot of women but you've probably only got about 20-30 years left so that's all you get" is to miss the point. As for whining about psychological damage of isolation, it pales in comparison to the psychological damage that Nasser committed. It wasn't, the person who posted it said it wasn't what they said, several other posters have told you that you are misinterpreting the post but ok sure. Keep being stupid about this.
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Jan 25, 2018 04:06
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Rachael Denhollander (the first woman to publically accuse Nassar of sexual assault) was the last woman to speak at the sentencing. She's a loving hero. e: updating with better video that a) doesn't stutter and b) ends with her standing ovation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wehpkiflXMs GobiasIndustries fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Jan 25, 2018 08:21
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happyhippy posted:Thanks for posting this. Yeah the whole thing is really good and important viewing (all of the testimonies are but I can't watch too many of them in a row). My favorite part was ~25 minutes in when she takes a couple minutes to give a huge 'gently caress you' to Nassar's lawyer and then the lawyer gets slapped down by the judge (and everyone in the court room  ) when she objects.
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Jan 25, 2018 22:10
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jabby posted:To be fair going after his lawyer is a bit harsh. She's legally obliged to do her best to defend him, and he's legally entitled to defence. What would our justice system be like if lawyers refused to defend people they thought were guilty? Don't disagree, but if what she said is true (and I have no reason to doubt it was) then I don't see anything out of line with it. Rachael's character was smeared all over the place and his lawyer was doing exactly what she was accusing Rachael of doing, I'm all in favor of setting the record straight.
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Jan 26, 2018 01:11
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Good https://twitter.com/byajperez/status/956733005019729921
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AsInHowe posted:I'm excited to see Michigan State's expulsion from the Big Ten, to give that spot to Notre Dame, only to have Notre Dame get immediately expelled for maybe Grand Valley State? gently caress it, go Lakers! Oracle posted:Could always just make the Big 10 10 again. Isn’t it up to 12 now or something? 14
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Jan 26, 2018 06:17
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AsInHowe posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/A2Jess/status/956364868659097600 Yeah there were a billion ways she could have handled this situation and she did so in the worst possible one outside of, I dunno, getting dragged out kicking and screaming? gently caress her, glad to see she's gone, her handling of this situation has been beyond irresponsible.
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Jan 26, 2018 07:23
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Oh my god  https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/01/25/president-simon-resignation-msu-nassar/1064398001/ quote:Michigan State University President Lou Anna Simon's resignation Wednesday night kicked in a number of special benefits she'll receive, including lifetime free tickets to MSU football games and a 12-month paid research leave if she returns to the faculty.
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Jan 26, 2018 08:28
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seiferguy posted:Obviously with 180+ victims coming forward, it's pretty loving clear Nassar did all those awful things. My worry would be if there was a case like that where the accused were innocent and supposed victims (maybe unaware that the prosecution found the wrong person) started shouting awful things at them for things they didn't do. The Central Park five come to mind. That said, it's an extremely specific example, and I don't think would happen often, especially in the case where there are multiple victims. I get that, but the victims (e: all the closing speeches we heard, not women/girls who testified during trial I should be clear) all only spoke after he was convicted and there was such a gigantic mountain of evidence against him in the trial that made it a fairly easy conviction. It's not like they were letting random people off the street come in and scream at him.
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Jan 26, 2018 08:54
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Mark Hollis is out as AD at MSU. https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2018/01/26/michigan-state-university-mark-hollis-resigns/1068989001/
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Jan 26, 2018 17:23
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Henchman of Santa posted:If anything draws out the Sparty version of Paterno defenders I'm betting it will be this Yeah I haven’t brought any of this up with my dad yet and now I’m definitely not going to because I really don’t know where he’s going to land on this.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:55
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AsInHowe posted:Outside The Lines is going all in on Dantonio and Izzo covering up player crimes. Yeah....here comes the fun part 
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Jan 26, 2018 19:12
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AsInHowe posted:If it's what I saw while skimming that article, probably gang rape. Lots of gang rape. Ah yeah that’s what I remember the protests at the admin building being about. ....Jesus Christ
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Jan 26, 2018 19:31
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AsInHowe posted:The dumbest MSU journalist has weighed in. jfc that doesn’t make it ok
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Jan 26, 2018 20:43
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When I first worked at MSU I worked summer orientation and part of my job was enrolling students in classes. It was always super awesome working with the athletes (most of the time it was female athletes because the men were flagged immediately and basically never reached us) because as soon as we were done getting them actual classes they would go over to the athletic building and their entire schedule would get overwritten.
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Jan 26, 2018 21:36
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Just got an email from the Board of Trustees at MSUquote:Dear MSU Community,
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Jan 26, 2018 23:12
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stone cold posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/lynseymukomel/status/956953153089490944 lol Betsy DeVos ain't gonna do poo poo about poo poo in this situation.
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Jan 26, 2018 23:37
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Like, everyone knows Betsy DeVos is a piece of poo poo who hates public education but at K-12 level the amount of harm she could inflict was relatively minimal because states rights and whatnot. Her rolling back Title IX protections combined with this incident is a 'textbook' example of the amount of damage someone in her position could cause due to indifference and negligence.
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Jan 26, 2018 23:48
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Mark Emmert is a giant pussy and just like everyone else in his position he chose to do nothing because $$$$$
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Jan 27, 2018 03:16
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stone cold posted:i would like to highlight this for every single goddamn idiot who came in here and whined about demolishing college sports (NOTE I AM NOT DEFENDING MSU AT ALL RIGHT NOW) Again, this is not unique to college sports as a very large number of the girls assaulted were through US Gymnastics. The NCAA is a huge problem, yes, but so is literally every other large organization focused on profits before people.
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Jan 27, 2018 04:27
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Horseshoe theory posted:Friendly reminder that Woody Hayes, considered one of the greatest College Football coaches of all time, was a complete psychopath who had meltdowns and assaulted numerous people on national TV yet didn't get shitcanned as a coach until he blatantly sucker punched Charlie Bauman after Bauman intercepted the ball. Also Bobby Knight had a career in commentating after a Hall of Fame College Basketball coaching career that included numerous player assaults and being an all around nutbar. this is like, all coaches ever. My highschool track coach stopped talking to me, even though I was a captain, because I had to get leg surgery (I was not a fan of him) and would regularly berate pretty much everyone on the team, and my swim coach, before my time when he had apparently calmed down, would throw chairs and stuff into the lanes if he wasn't happy with how the top group was performing that day (was actually a huge fan of him).
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MSU is making more changes, getting rid of the dean of the college that employed Nassar https://www.reuters.com/article/gym...l-idUSL2N1PZ1VM quote:Feb 9 (Reuters) - Michigan State University is moving to fire a dean who it said had failed to enforce 2014 guidelines created for sports doctor Larry Nassar in treating young athletes after complaints of sexual misconduct against him.
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