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Banning college sports would effectively destroy American sports as we know them. Whether that's good or bad is a matter of your perspective, but either way it's absurd to even suggest it could happen in our lifetimes. The problem, as mentioned earlier, comes up in any scenario with extreme power dynamics. I'm far more interested in the actual ramifications for USAG and MSU, whose students are clamoring for Simon to resign but whose board is supporting her for god knows what reason. If I were an alum I'd be blowing up their inboxes with angry letters and emails. Donors need to put a freeze on giving them money immediately.
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PT6A posted:Why do Americans think this? The key words being "as we know them"
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Jan 23, 2018 18:14
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PT6A posted:Except the NHL, NFL, NBA, MLB, MLS, etc. will still exist more or less exactly as they exist right now, regardless of where the talent is developed. The NFL would have to radically change how they develop talent and they're by far the most powerful sports organization in the country. They would not relinquish their free minor league without a major fight.
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Jan 23, 2018 18:18
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Willie Tomg posted:what do you think about the coverup of 200 children being raped, keven? It doesn't make "sportsball" not an idiotic phrase
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Willie Tomg posted:your brain is incredibly broken For trying to have the discussion be somewhat serious?
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Jan 23, 2018 19:12
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Willie Tomg posted:*cracks knuckles* Alright gang let's get down to brass tacks: these kids were not raped playing "Sports Ball" and to use such terms demeans and delegitimizes the hard work of our athletes and faculty. Let's stay focused on the topic at hand, here. You have yet to make a single contribution about the actual topic dude
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Jan 23, 2018 19:14
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exploded mummy posted:Bliss has been blackballed from the NCAA and anything major though. I think he's spent most of the past decade coaching high school or equivalent basketball. He went D-league, high school, NAIA and now high school again
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Jan 23, 2018 20:23
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mastershakeman posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e89IWTGdIuQ Is "more going on" that Richard Spencer is coming to campus?
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Jan 23, 2018 22:28
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Nothing to see here just an "inadvertent comment" https://twitter.com/reporterdavidj/status/955970424734707712
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Jan 24, 2018 02:23
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GobiasIndustries posted:from rear end in a top hat Board members (I have no idea how this happens)
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Jan 24, 2018 03:06
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purkey posted:That monster is coaching high school kids? gently caress man Yep, and it’s always at Christian schools.
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Jan 24, 2018 03:51
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GobiasIndustries posted:This is good yes but the Penn State investigation was toothless and that was for football. There has to be serious legal action and top-level changes. You could argue that they’ll come down harder on a less popular sport (sort of like how they’ve given the death penalty to D3 tennis programs but will never do it to a major football program again) but trusting the NCAA to handle things properly is not wise.
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Jan 24, 2018 04:29
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Faculty also want Simon gone: http://on.lsj.com/2F8YbcT
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Jan 24, 2018 15:38
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Think of it this way: if you ask someone on the street what comes to mind when they hear "Duke University," would they be more likely to say the basketball program or its highly regarded academics?
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Jan 24, 2018 17:53
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StrixNebulosa posted:https://twitter.com/kimberkoz/status/956206272877158401 That is both missing the point and missing the correct school (but for the record, more people probably associate UM with football than with being the top ranked public school in the country).
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Jan 24, 2018 18:03
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The Muppets On PCP posted:anyway this is a stupid derail and i'm agreeing with everyone who says ending college athletics and dismantling the ncaa won't significantly hurt schools fwiw many proponents of college sports also favor dismantling the NCAA
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Jan 24, 2018 18:21
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skaboomizzy posted:A guard about to retire will "somehow" allow an inmate already in for life to "slip past" a checkpoint, and that's the likely end of Nassar's story. I think this happens in movies more than real life. Jerry Sandusky is still alive.
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Jan 24, 2018 19:40
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GobiasIndustries posted:Simon is out at MSU Looks like she didn't put any blame on herself at all
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Jan 25, 2018 03:21
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If you read that long ESPN piece, Geddart was so emotionally abusive that it just made Nassar’s life easier because he was trustworthy in comparison
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Jan 25, 2018 14:38
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PT6A posted:There's a lot of people who badly, badly need to go to prison as a result of this whole thing. Here’s a handy list including several of them: http://on.freep.com/2rColmz
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AsInHowe posted:I'm excited to see Michigan State's expulsion from the Big Ten, to give that spot to Notre Dame, only to have Notre Dame get immediately expelled for maybe Grand Valley State? They will take the bullet Michigan should’ve taken in 2008 and switch places with Toledo
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Jan 26, 2018 15:05
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GobiasIndustries posted:Mark Hollis is out as AD at MSU. If anything draws out the Sparty version of Paterno defenders I'm betting it will be this
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GobiasIndustries posted:Yeah I haven’t brought any of this up with my dad yet and now I’m definitely not going to because I really don’t know where he’s going to land on this. I'm going to but my dad lately has taken up the devil's advocate position on literally everything I talk to him about and also thought Penn State's bowl ban being lifted early was a good thing so I don't know if I want to.
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Jan 26, 2018 18:13
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PT6A posted:Don’t most of the “kids” just want to play for a competitive program where they can show off their talents and then make it to the NFL or respective pro league for their sport? 99% of players will never make money on sports or win a championship and they know that. There are 130 teams in Division I football alone and about a dozen of them can realistically compete for a title in a given year. Team pride and history is a huge recruiting tool. Players go to schools that suit their needs and interests for sports just like any other kid picking a college.
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Jan 26, 2018 18:51
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Dantonio has booted off a lot of players during his time, so is ESPN bringing out new allegations? He also has a history of giving slaps on the wrist to people for crimes, though sexual violence has gotten guys kicked off and kicked out. There was an anonymous accusation of some basketball players a few years ago too but nothing came of it. Izzo always boots guys for unspecified violations that usually turn out to be weed. Maybe we'll finally know what Max Bullough was suspended for!
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Jan 26, 2018 19:28
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PT6A posted:If you're assuming you aren't going to go pro, wouldn't it make more sense to find the best university for whatever it is you want to study, that will still offer you a sports scholarship? If you’re on a football scholarship you effectively are studying football, but very few people will ever be pro football players and they know that. They might go into coaching. Most will sell insurance or something like that. Also for a lot of kids a sports scholarship is the only way they’ll go to college at all. They’re not brought up thinking about what they’ll study in undergrad. Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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PT6A posted:So the goal is to get CTE, while playing for free, in the name of some kind of school pride, and you don't even really get to study the field you actually want to work in after university? Basically yeah
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Jan 26, 2018 19:55
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PT6A posted:This must be a difference between US and Canada, but... why? America is weird.
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Jan 26, 2018 19:57
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howe_sam posted:Well, you might also apply to Ohio State because it's way cheaper than OWU (and OWU sucks anyway, go Wooster). But yeah sure a big D1 school like Ohio State is way more visible than a GLCA liberal arts school with an enrollment of under 2000 students. This post is funny to me because I’m a Michigan State fan who’s currently ashamed of my favorite teams but a Wooster alum who’s proud of current students for fighting for racial justice this week
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Jan 26, 2018 21:11
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skaboomizzy posted:If you want to see another by-product of this system, watch Last Chance U on Netflix. Don't forget their saintly academic advisor who's just trying to be some kind of guiding force in their lives.
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Jan 26, 2018 22:00
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Big Slammu posted:So... are Izzo and Dantonio next to go? Saw that OTL preview ESPN aired, but I’m still on the fence as to whether those two in particular did anything wrong enough to merit turning the pitchforks to them...at the same time Hollis resigning right away after hearing about this ESPN report leads me to think there’s more smoke. My guess is that the evidence that they knew and covered it up won't be there, but if that many problems happened under their noses (particularly Dantonio's) without them doing anything they should step down.
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Jan 27, 2018 18:20
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Mahoning posted:I find this line of thinking useless. Not because I give a poo poo whether MSU Athletics is wiped off the face of the earth or not, but because it takes our focus away from the people that did this and puts the onus on the institution. The counter to that would be that institutions as a structure enable people to cover things up this way.
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Jan 27, 2018 19:51
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Mahoning posted:The rape culture on US college campuses is hardly unique to MSU or MSU Athletics. Are you advocating that we eliminate all colleges and universities? If you read literally any of my posts you can see I haven't advocated that at all
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A father of three victims tried to take Nassar out at his sentencing hearing this morning but got restrained by deputies
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Mukip posted:I saw a lot of justifiable anger in this thread. But are the reasons for why administrations cover up for sex abusers substantially different from the reasons they cover up for any other bad behaviour? I imagine the psychology of it is similar in most cases. You should see what judges say to poor black defendants
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Feb 10, 2018 22:11
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SpeakSlow posted:I don't think that anyone here is calling for proscribed, codified and 'normalized' rape for this man. “They’re not calling for rape, they just would like it to happen”
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Let me show you a little film series called “The Purge”
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