[canada] I don't need to take lessons on marginalized people. I'm ITALIAN!

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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

lolling at this thread

# ¿ Jan 23, 2018 19:55

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:27

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1QNIhPB7Ck&t=76s

metaphor for cspam

# ¿ Jan 25, 2018 16:59

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Virtual Russian posted:

I'd like to point out that Doug Fords buck-a-beer promise is basically Mr. Burns plan to swindle the power plant union. Free beer in exchange for their dental plan.

Implying that voters are dumber than Homer Simpson.

re-upping:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgqtBm_oUpc&t=8s

# ¿ Jun 8, 2018 04:01

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Baloogan posted:

https://i.imgur.com/9dwceeB.mp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ER4H4XmEk

# ¿ Jun 9, 2018 04:01

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

president ford has run out of beer

are you a bad enough dude to go pick up a six-pack of molson at the couche-tard?

# ¿ Jun 9, 2018 04:05

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

jonathan kay blows it again

https://twitter.com/lyzl/status/1044702812616216577
https://twitter.com/lyzl/status/1044704230282600448

# ¿ Sep 25, 2018 23:03

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

there's always another option...

https://twitter.com/compartycanada/status/1171535436465897477

# ¿ Sep 19, 2019 10:17

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

bloc du jeb

# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 04:13

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

i like looking at little ridings and seeing 10 votes for the hoxhaist party. bet they're all roommates

# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 04:35

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 06:23

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

i just learned there is a minor party in quebec that wants to join america lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parti_51

# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 07:12

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

there is real support for far right, anti immigration politics in canada. the commie lib media just focused on the wrong party

# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 08:03

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Echo Chamber posted:

Just woke up to these election results.

Maybe it's not my place to ask as an American, but seeing the NDP suffer a net loss of seats and votes, what the heck happened?

1:00 in this answers to your question

https://twitter.com/synshow/status/1186469190833717251

# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 12:17

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

i thought about posting lol in the thread but i promised myself i wouldn't interfere anymore in internal canadian affairs

# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 14:32

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

EvilJoven posted:

I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of the leftists that focus so much on racism are the same leftists that are benefitting from the current neoliberal paradigm that's slowly destroying the lives of people who didn't quite make it to the right side of the disappearing middle class.

didn't kkklanada just discover the bodies of hundreds of dead indigenous children

# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 18:55

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 08:35 on Jan 30, 2022

# ¿ Jan 30, 2022 08:32

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

canadian fascism is just ridiculous. this is supposed to be intimidating but i can't help think this guy is holding back. "i just wanna let you know, y'know, that i'm really angry aboot these masks, well anyways i'm going to storm out now. here we go..."

https://twitter.com/AdrienLouisSala/status/1487215614460628998

# ¿ Jan 30, 2022 08:47

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

CLAM DOWN posted:

hell yeah time for january 6 dumb unfunny edition

https://twitter.com/GordonDarkfoot/status/1488000184558792707

# ¿ Jan 31, 2022 07:00

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

ARACHTION posted:

That my respecting police, Canada day flag waving, lib to the core mom has said she was proud of us to block the convoy yesterday in Van instead of being extremely disappointed for chancing arrest is a sign to me that the convoy has lost all support from any �normie� in the country.

The 2020 Summer uprising had the libs in my life go from: �police are neutral and good�->�policing is systematically racist�. Now this Ottawa thing from: �policing is systematically racist� -> �there exists large segments of police forces nationwide who are at best neo-Nazi sympathizers�.

when my mother expresses her concern about far right people, her liberalism will sometimes come out about hoping the cops will do something and i have to quietly tap the ACAB sign

# ¿ Feb 7, 2022 07:37

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/status/1489275288970223624

:quebec:

# ¿ Feb 8, 2022 07:53

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

KKKlanada

# ¿ Feb 9, 2022 14:21

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

vyelkin posted:

yeah, the whole point of neoliberalism wasn't necessarily to use the state to enforce technocratic capitalism, it was about removing the ability of the state to do anything else. end of history meant end of state power, and third way leaders more than anybody else made sure that "the state can't do anything" became the defining ideology. people might acknowledge that the state had the theoretical authority to do things, but they made sure that the ideological apparatus surrounding the state constantly reaffirmed that it shouldn't, both because it was theoretically wrong and because it was inefficient. everything is more effective when someone other than the state does it, so why would you ever want the state to do anything even if you acknowledge that it can?

what state capacity did remain was, as dreylad says, used to funnel state money to private individuals. sometimes this was in the form of pure graft, but more often it was rooted in the privatization of the state. neoliberal ideology says capitalism is the only system that works and efficiency is more important than efficacy. capitalism is driven by the profit motive which drives people to efficiency, and neoliberalism says the problem with the state is it doesn't have a profit motive so it can never be efficient, even if it is effective - the state might get the thing done that you want, but it will waste resources doing it, so there will always be a theoretical private initiative that could reach the same result for less expenditure. and so the privatization of the state took place, both because of graft but also because of an ideological belief that only privatization could lead to efficiency. and this didn't only apply to things neoliberals dislike about the state, but about everything--private police, private prisons, private soldiers. why spend money creating an effective police force, prison, or military when you could contract it out, get the same result for less expenditure, and get the chance to give a big contract to your friend from university while you're at it? the state still exists but it primarily exists as a clearinghouse for taxpayer money to go to private contractors who provide state functions. the principal thing that changes when government changes hands is not the basic ideology of how the state should operate, but rather which group of well-connected donors get the big taxpayer-funded contracts

of course, it should go without saying that this system only works when the good times are rolling. as soon as it faces a systemic crisis that can't be solved in the course of a single fiscal quarter using a public-private contract, it collapses because the state no longer has the capacity to do effective long-term planning and the private contractors either aren't interested in it or aren't capable of doing it either. neoliberalism teaches that there is nothing outside the market, and so it cannot conceive of problems that are legitimate market failures. it either stalls on those problems, acknowledging that they exist but remaining unable to solve them, or its ratcheting mechanism reassures the neoliberal mind that the solution is more of the market, because these market mechanisms cannot fail, because there is no ideological alternative to them. the pandemic or climate change are problems that exist outside the market and that cannot be solved by the market, because in both cases the short-term profit incentives cause drastic long-term consequences far out of proportion to the short-term choices that caused them

this is why we keep doubling down on bad responses to both these systemic problems, because our political class is entirely wedded to the neoliberal view of the world as one big market where private enterprise is the driving force of history and where the only efficient thing for the state to do is to get out of the way, but these problems are ones that are made worse by the market, not better, and therefore cannot be solved through this model. sometimes a far-sighted individual might break the trend and try to do what's healthy in the long-run, but the short-term incentives to stab that person in the back and go back to opening the economy or burning coal are just too great, and because nothing exists outside the market our leaders simply cannot conceive of a long-term solution that might overcome the short-term perversions of the profit motive.

there's the phrase that fascism is "capitalism in decay" but i take that to more specifically mean a morbid symptom produced by, and an accelerant of, the process of capitalist decay -- and co-constitutive with it -- like an extreme and rapid doubling down on the existing contradictions. so with the trucks, they have many grievances and demands including shoving jews back into gas chambers (and throwing the chinese in there too for good measure), hanging justin trudeau from a maple tree, enshrining social darwinism in society more than it already is, banning vaccinations, and eliminating vaccine mandates (which are decided at the provincial level while they're protesting in ottawa for some reason). but as you described, the story of the neoliberal era up to this point has been to erode state capacity in every aspect other than the police forces and the military (which expanded) and which are necessary to keep on oppressing everybody. and that's what the trucks are demanding: further erosion of the centralized state to the extent that it even still exists.

that's the accelerant side of the dialectic. they're produced by this process at the same time too, because your southern neighbor killing a million of their people and tens of thousands of yours dying too -- and the resulting economic bullwhip dislocations causing prices to rise -- is going to have effects on the small-business hogs who are running their businesses on thin margins or at a loss already. people are dead, or sick, or caring for their sick relatives, or are just dropping out of the labor force. plus, they don't have as many customers as they did, because a fair number of people out there are not going out because there's a deadly virus that's still spreading in the population. so they double down and want more of the problem as the solution, which contrasts them with the liberals who recognize there's a problem but have no solution.

one more thing, and why it's strange to see the post-left kooks and "marxists" who have come to support the trucks, is how similar the techniques are to color revolutions -- up to right-wing forums openly sharing gene sharp's protest techniques as a model for themselves. remember that sharp's model emerged as GLADIO tactic that was then turned offensively against centralized states. the way a color revolution is designed, it can only collapse a state by flooding the capital zone and then provoking backlash to escalate the situation into bloodshed, but it can't take power on its own. it's just not organized that way. the people who actually take power are waiting in the wings elsewhere and it's their job to privatize everything once the state collapses. the demands with vague calls to "freedom" and "anti-corruption" as seen in other countries are amorphous by design. but there's a boomerang effect so these techniques are being used against the countries that created it in the first place.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2022 06:59

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

President Xi, my city yearns for freedom. It is the third week of occupation and our government does nothing. Our police and military have betrayed us, they beat us for wearing our traditional attire (N95s).

please sir, may the mandate of heaven guide you to our liberation. You are our last hope.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2022 02:45

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

skewetoo posted:

war measures act let's goooooooooooooooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj9STmoRkeA

# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 22:25

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

the trucks tried to bend canadian politics in their direction but now it's time to "flatten the curve" with tank treads

# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 22:43

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

critical support to the trudeau regime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ07TtQBWf4

# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 22:54

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

CLAM DOWN posted:

TRUDEAU SAY THE WORDS

# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 23:28

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/CPC_HQ/status/1493321477122314241

# ¿ Feb 15, 2022 00:31

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

now we get to the fun part where failed american actors plucked from obscure modeling agencies to become right-wing commentators come up with increasingly bizarre plans for the canadian color revolution like "what if all the canadians withdraw all the money from the banks to crash the economy?"

yeah i'm sure all the canadians are gonna do that any second and banks are also, like, giant scrooge mcduck vaults full of cash instead of mostly being made up of holdings from other sectors and not just regular people's money. what's canada's version of the FDIC?

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1493432675134226433

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 05:44 on Feb 15, 2022

# ¿ Feb 15, 2022 05:32

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

ARACHTION posted:

Yankees go the gently caress home.

years ago i was on a chat server for industrial music with mostly very left-wing canadians on it (vancouver people) and during a chat about politics i said something about "we" as in americans (referring to them as well) and they politely but sternly corrected me that they were canadian. they were nice about it and very brief, but i had something like an unconscious imperial assumption that canada is an extension of the united states that i forgot that these people were canadian.

i imagine the brash megaphone of the U.S. media also plays a role in this reemerging canadian left-nationalism. well, that, and not being pleased with millions of dollars in right-wing funding coming across the border and militia guys moving guns to take part in some boogaloo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kNaJ3WN1DE

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 20:30 on Feb 16, 2022

# ¿ Feb 16, 2022 20:24

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

ARACHTION posted:

This is why I am pissed off. I thought the American and Canadian left could build bridges to mutually support each other, but they seem more interested in making some weird point about Freedom Convoy being a worker movement than actually learning about our country, our struggles and connect with our labour movement to learn from this and grow stronger together. What is happening in Canada is surely a testing ground for what the far-right in your country may do in the future, so I would encourage you to try to learn of the organized left's response to this as well.

thank you for that. i think what they need to be told to do is shut the gently caress up and join an org which defers to a fraternal canadian equivalent like the communist party which had a presence in counter-demonstrations and came out with a very strong statement

# ¿ Feb 16, 2022 21:34

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/ChalicothereX/status/1494761174855929856

if the government brought in quebec cops then i would probably move in the opposite direction :toughguy:

# ¿ Feb 19, 2022 04:19

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/ChalicothereX/status/1494764217328562177?s=20&t=j3WGpRCjQ8KsgX8Xno5tNw

wait i was told by some twitter crank that we must support the protesters against the police state :thunk:

# ¿ Feb 19, 2022 04:22

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Kindest Forums User posted:

I just realized that this truckers convoy is Canada's Tea Party. Where fringe conservatives starting gaining actual political and grassroots power. It's amazing how Canada is US just delayed and a lot dumber

this song doesn't work in the USA anymore but it still does with trudeau

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9sABRosdNg

# ¿ Feb 20, 2022 22:38

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

happy canada day. as a USian i feel like i should lend critical support to canadian patriotism against U.S. imperialism

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:27

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

canada day is now officially over but i want everyone to know that i still love you. it's important to support canadians.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2022 07:51

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