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Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

i'd say that's cool except the part where the hydrogen fuel cell is a dead-end technology

nah

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drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.
Anyone else going to the Rolex 24?

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
Picked Super Sebring instead, Rolex 24 is on the list eventually, probably after Watkins Glen but before Road America, Lime Rock, and Mosport

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

drat, Sean Rayhall is quitting racing, despite all the interest he is getting and only being 23. kinda strange. sounds like he doesnt dig it anymore?

https://racer.com/2018/12/17/rayhall-announces-retirement/

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


I would imagine the grind for sponsor money kills your soul.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


this is a hell of a read https://jalopnik.com/i-went-to-china-to-race-a-new-car-then-things-got-weir-1829220792

wicka
Jun 28, 2007



I absolutely loving loathe this style of writing. Hey, want to hear about this insane race I was in? OK, I'll tease that for a few paragraphs and then take a hard left into Geely corporate history.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


The Kimoa Kid posted:

I absolutely loving loathe this style of writing. Hey, want to hear about this insane race I was in? OK, I'll tease that for a few paragraphs and then take a hard left into Geely corporate history.

I agree. This isnt a longform crime story.

CactusWeasle
Aug 1, 2006
It's not a party until the bomb squad says it is

The Kimoa Kid posted:

I absolutely loving loathe this style of writing. Hey, want to hear about this insane race I was in? OK, I'll tease that for a few paragraphs and then take a hard left into Geely corporate history.

She survived to write this, and I don't know how to feel about it

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

The Kimoa Kid posted:

I absolutely loving loathe this style of writing. Hey, want to hear about this insane race I was in? OK, I'll tease that for a few paragraphs and then take a hard left into Geely corporate history.

Thanks for letting me know not to read a Jalopnik article not that I already didn't have a massive red flag of it being a Jalopnik article.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

For those hoping DPi would be "unleashed" without P2, lol nah not really. Considering how mad Acura and Mazda were about costs, I'm surprised they are even getting these tiny adjustments, tbh.

Weights cut anywhere from zero to 20kg, and some tiny power increases (mostly with more boost at the top end). And guess what, Cadillac got both the biggest weight cut and biggest power improvement. Great.

https://racer.com/2018/12/21/roar-before-the-24-bop-tables-released/

also the roar list is out https://racerdigital.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/2019_IWSC_Roar_Provisional_EntryList.pdf

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

like the BoP won't be adjusted about three more times before Mid-Ohio.

also I'm probably fever dreaming but the possibility that Ferrari is joining the Le Mans 'hypercar' regulations opens the door that somebody else on the F1 grid currently developing a hypercar based on their F1 tech could adapt that for Le Mans use...

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Cygni posted:

For those hoping DPi would be "unleashed" without P2, lol nah not really. Considering how mad Acura and Mazda were about costs, I'm surprised they are even getting these tiny adjustments, tbh.

Weights cut anywhere from zero to 20kg, and some tiny power increases (mostly with more boost at the top end). And guess what, Cadillac got both the biggest weight cut and biggest power improvement. Great.

https://racer.com/2018/12/21/roar-before-the-24-bop-tables-released/

also the roar list is out https://racerdigital.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/2019_IWSC_Roar_Provisional_EntryList.pdf

Can't let Cadillac not win, they're dumping loving mad cash into IMSA's pockets.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
Here's a fun one, seems like an astronomically long shot but helll I'm down for it if it happens.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/12/21/g-drive-looking-to-2020-dpi-programme.html

G-Drive Oreca 4.5L Gibson LMP1 engine plus some Russian manufacturer providing bodywork.

Lada to DPi, boys :v:

Real talk though, what sportscar manufacturer in Russia would be interested in IMSA? I can't even think of a current Russian sportscar manufacturer

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



MazeOfTzeentch posted:

Here's a fun one, seems like an astronomically long shot but helll I'm down for it if it happens.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/12/21/g-drive-looking-to-2020-dpi-programme.html

G-Drive Oreca 4.5L Gibson LMP1 engine plus some Russian manufacturer providing bodywork.

Lada to DPi, boys :v:

Real talk though, what sportscar manufacturer in Russia would be interested in IMSA? I can't even think of a current Russian sportscar manufacturer

There isn't one.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

MazeOfTzeentch posted:

Here's a fun one, seems like an astronomically long shot but helll I'm down for it if it happens.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/12/21/g-drive-looking-to-2020-dpi-programme.html

G-Drive Oreca 4.5L Gibson LMP1 engine plus some Russian manufacturer providing bodywork.

Lada to DPi, boys :v:

Real talk though, what sportscar manufacturer in Russia would be interested in IMSA? I can't even think of a current Russian sportscar manufacturer

Marussia? :v:

would probably either be Lada or G-Drive branded though most likely.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

AJ Allmendinger was revealed as the first member of NBC's Rolex 24 broadcast crew. They say he'll work a variety of racing properties, so I don't know if he'll do the whole sports car season or just Daytona.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



harperdc posted:

Marussia? :v:

would probably either be Lada or G-Drive branded though most likely.

Marussia is dead man, I looked into that as soon as he posted it.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

orange juche posted:

Marussia is dead man, I looked into that as soon as he posted it.

Hence the :v:, I knew it had died and also checked too.

Six weeks until Daytona. Yowza.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

The Kimoa Kid posted:

I absolutely loving loathe this style of writing. Hey, want to hear about this insane race I was in? OK, I'll tease that for a few paragraphs and then take a hard left into Geely corporate history.

:rolleyes:

It is a fantastic piece of writing by Alanis. And the context about Geely absolutely adds to that article.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


drgitlin posted:

:rolleyes:

It is a fantastic piece of writing by Alanis. And the context about Geely absolutely adds to that article.

I respect your opinion, but I have to disagree. Here's the thing: I was born in Southern Indiana just over 30 years ago. This is a state whose economy consists almost exclusively of corn. Consequently,

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind
https://marshallpruett.podbean.com/e/mp-445-the-oral-history-of-the-fast-masters-series/

quote:

Bring some of racing’s biggest names out of retirement from Indy car, sports cars, NASCAR, and even the NHRA, wedge them into 12 of Jaguar’s brand-new, ultra-rare $1.3 million road racing XJ220C supercars, then drop the ageing heroes onto the claustrophobic 0.686-mile Indianapolis Raceway Park oval and eventually its ‘roval’ as part of the first made-for-TV racing series for 50-and-older icons.

What could go wrong?

Back in the summer of 1993, the gorgeous XJ220Cs, built in England by Tom Walkinshaw Racing, were bashed and battered for our amusement like demolition derby cars at the county fair. The six-week special airing on ESPN, modeled off the cable channel’s Thursday Night Thunder concept, delivered five weeks of heat races to whittle down the grid for Fast Master’s grand finale. Quickly dubbed the ‘Crash Masters,’ it received the sport’s most accurate nickname.

On its 25th anniversary, the Fast Masters series continues to stand as one of the most delightfully unhinged racing concepts to become a reality.

Told by Terry Lingner, the series’ creator and producer, Bobby Unser, its first and only champion, and TWR USA boss Tony Dowe, who supplied and maintained the cars on behalf of Jaguar, here's the oral history of a racing series that barely survived its first event, presented as a special feature on the Marshall Pruett Podcast.

Merry Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv7Ku53jhIQ

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


McLaren give you Indy blue balls? Don't worry, they're gonna race McLarens in *checks notes* Super GT??? next year

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

Basticle posted:

McLaren give you Indy blue balls? Don't worry, they're gonna race McLarens in *checks notes* Super GT??? next year

It's not even factory backed. It's just Team Goh buying a 720S GT3 and running it in the GT300 Poverty Tier.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Wirth1000 posted:

It's not even factory backed. It's just Team Goh buying a 720S GT3 and running it in the GT300 Poverty Tier.

i know that

unrelated, check out this video i found in some jalopnik comment section

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0x5-zCHMDA

:eyepop:

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

Basticle posted:

i know that

unrelated, check out this video i found in some jalopnik comment section

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0x5-zCHMDA

:eyepop:

Yeah, I'm just saying that Zak Brown is such a loving hack clown that he won't commit to anything. He's a loving hack and a clown.

Vid owns. NASCAR should go back to running real cars.

an oddly awful oud
May 1, 2008

all my friends are pieces of shit
So is Mazda gonna Mazda for 2019? I vote McLaren gonna McLaren

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


an oddly awful oud posted:

So is Mazda gonna Mazda for 2019? I vote McLaren gonna McLaren

why not both

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind
McLaren Gonna Mazda

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
Bentley gonna Mazda as well

an oddly awful oud
May 1, 2008

all my friends are pieces of shit
Mazda gonna Audi: https://racer.com/2019/01/02/major-changes-ahead-for-mazda-team-joest/

Leena Gade joining up as the #77 race engineer, Brad Kettler coming on as a "consultant". But Ralf Juttner's no longer overseeing the program, and his second-in-command Jan Lange has been promoted to run it instead. And the #55 also has a new race engineer formerly of Multimatic's Ford GT program, Dave Wilcox.

Also, Olivier Pla and Timo Bernhard are going to be the enduro drivers this year instead of Pigot and Rast.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


an oddly awful oud posted:

Mazda gonna Audi: https://racer.com/2019/01/02/major-changes-ahead-for-mazda-team-joest/

Leena Gade joining up as the #77 race engineer, Brad Kettler coming on as a "consultant". But Ralf Juttner's no longer overseeing the program, and his second-in-command Jan Lange has been promoted to run it instead. And the #55 also has a new race engineer formerly of Multimatic's Ford GT program, Dave Wilcox.

Also, Olivier Pla and Timo Bernhard are going to be the enduro drivers this year instead of Pigot and Rast.

dayum

*edit* Pla is going to be racing in both Sebring races :getin:

Basticle fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jan 2, 2019

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



an oddly awful oud posted:

Mazda gonna Audi: https://racer.com/2019/01/02/major-changes-ahead-for-mazda-team-joest/

Leena Gade joining up as the #77 race engineer, Brad Kettler coming on as a "consultant". But Ralf Juttner's no longer overseeing the program, and his second-in-command Jan Lange has been promoted to run it instead. And the #55 also has a new race engineer formerly of Multimatic's Ford GT program, Dave Wilcox.

Also, Olivier Pla and Timo Bernhard are going to be the enduro drivers this year instead of Pigot and Rast.

Jesus they really want to win

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Don't worry, Mazda gonna Peugeot

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Wirth1000 posted:

NASCAR should go back to running real cars.

:ssh: that's a tube chassis car with outer skins bolted onto it and the subframe from a car 10 years older AND truck suspension pieces AND an engine you couldn't get in that car

nothing real about that car

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

an oddly awful oud posted:

Mazda gonna Audi: https://racer.com/2019/01/02/major-changes-ahead-for-mazda-team-joest/

Leena Gade joining up as the #77 race engineer, Brad Kettler coming on as a "consultant". But Ralf Juttner's no longer overseeing the program, and his second-in-command Jan Lange has been promoted to run it instead. And the #55 also has a new race engineer formerly of Multimatic's Ford GT program, Dave Wilcox.

Also, Olivier Pla and Timo Bernhard are going to be the enduro drivers this year instead of Pigot and Rast.

Wouldn't be surprised if Juttner's putting together their next program tbh, they said he's no longer with the Mazda program but still with Joest. That is carefully worded for a reason. Wouldn't be shocked if Team Joest wind up also doing a WEC 'hypercar' program as well.

and yeah Mazda Team Joest is really loaded for bear this year. Gonna be interesting to watch.

an oddly awful oud
May 1, 2008

all my friends are pieces of shit

harperdc posted:

Wouldn't be surprised if Juttner's putting together their next program tbh, they said he's no longer with the Mazda program but still with Joest. That is carefully worded for a reason. Wouldn't be shocked if Team Joest wind up also doing a WEC 'hypercar' program as well.

and yeah Mazda Team Joest is really loaded for bear this year. Gonna be interesting to watch.

Right, I didn't mean to imply that Ralf Juttner is out at Joest Racing. I think you're right that somebody wants Joest running a top spec WEC program in 2020 and Juttner's gone back to Europe to start the groundwork, since MTJ is now pretty well established.

Also I was half wrong: it turns out that Rene Rast isn't out completely, but is merely going to serve as a fourth driver for the #77 at Daytona and Sebring.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

VikingSkull posted:

:ssh: that's a tube chassis car with outer skins bolted onto it and the subframe from a car 10 years older AND truck suspension pieces AND an engine you couldn't get in that car

nothing real about that car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0EZobdiJ4M

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

an oddly awful oud posted:

I think you're right that somebody wants Joest running a top spec WEC program in 2020 and Juttner's gone back to Europe to start the groundwork, since MTJ is now pretty well established.

and/or Joest is pitching their services for such at this time too. I'm sure that goes both ways at times like this. Of course, they were only part of the program with Audi -- Dallara did some of the tub work IIRC -- but they certainly have more capacity than MTJ is taking at the moment, especially as it sounds like MTJ is running out of shops in the US (which, yeah, that's how it'd have to be run).

guys the Roar before the 24 is this weekend :toot:

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geonetix
Mar 6, 2011


Just imagine if Joest came back full circle with Porsche. Would be pretty awesome to somehow shoehorn a 918 into that hypercar class

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