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BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Noms are out!

Commence discusso; enable list-factorializing; snub-detector online.

And how's about that recap: "This is NOT a joke, I'm afraid they read the wrong thing"



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Best Picture:

“Call Me by Your Name”
“Darkest Hour”
“Dunkirk”
“Get Out”
“Lady Bird”
“Phantom Thread”
“The Post”
“The Shape of Water”
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”

Lead Actor:

Timothée Chalamet, “Call Me by Your Name”
Daniel Day-Lewis, “Phantom Thread”
Daniel Kaluuya, “Get Out”
Gary Oldman, “Darkest Hour”
Denzel Washington, “Roman J. Israel, Esq.”

Lead Actress:

Sally Hawkins, “The Shape of Water”
Frances McDormand, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Margot Robbie, “I, Tonya”
Saoirse Ronan, “Lady Bird”
Meryl Streep, “The Post”

Supporting Actor:

Willem Dafoe, “The Florida Project”
Woody Harrelson, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Richard Jenkins, “The Shape of Water”
Christopher Plummer, “All the Money in the World”
Sam Rockwell, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”

Supporting Actress:

Mary J. Blige, “Mudbound”
Allison Janney, “I, Tonya”
Lesley Manville, “Phantom Thread”
Laurie Metcalf, “Lady Bird”
Octavia Spencer, “The Shape of Water”

Director:

“Dunkirk,” Christopher Nolan
“Get Out,” Jordan Peele
“Lady Bird,” Greta Gerwig
“Phantom Thread,” Paul Thomas Anderson
“The Shape of Water,” Guillermo del Toro

Animated Feature:

“The Boss Baby,” Tom McGrath, Ramsey Ann Naito
“The Breadwinner,” Nora Twomey, Anthony Leo
“Coco,” Lee Unkrich, Darla K. Anderson
“Ferdinand,” Carlos Saldanha
“Loving Vincent,” Dorota Kobiela, Hugh Welchman, Sean Bobbitt, Ivan Mactaggart, Hugh Welchman

Animated Short:

“Dear Basketball,” Glen Keane, Kobe Bryant
“Garden Party,” Victor Caire, Gabriel Grapperon
“Lou,” Dave Mullins, Dana Murray
“Negative Space,” Max Porter, Ru Kuwahata
“Revolting Rhymes,” Jakob Schuh, Jan Lachauer

Adapted Screenplay:

“Call Me by Your Name,” James Ivory
“The Disaster Artist,” Scott Neustadter & Michael H. Weber
“Logan,” Scott Frank & James Mangold and Michael Green
“Molly’s Game,” Aaron Sorkin
“Mudbound,” Virgil Williams and Dee Rees

Original Screenplay:

“The Big Sick,” Emily V. Gordon & Kumail Nanjiani
“Get Out,” Jordan Peele
“Lady Bird,” Greta Gerwig
“The Shape of Water,” Guillermo del Toro, Vanessa Taylor
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri,” Martin McDonagh

Cinematography:

“Blade Runner 2049,” Roger Deakins
“Darkest Hour,” Bruno Delbonnel
“Dunkirk,” Hoyte van Hoytema
“Mudbound,” Rachel Morrison
“The Shape of Water,” Dan Laustsen

Best Documentary Feature:

“Abacus: Small Enough to Jail,” Steve James, Mark Mitten, Julie Goldman
“Faces Places,” JR, Agnès Varda, Rosalie Varda
“Icarus,” Bryan Fogel, Dan Cogan
“Last Men in Aleppo,” Feras Fayyad, Kareem Abeed, Soren Steen Jepersen
“Strong Island,” Yance Ford, Joslyn Barnes

Best Documentary Short Subject:

“Edith+Eddie,” Laura Checkoway, Thomas Lee Wright
“Heaven is a Traffic Jam on the 405,” Frank Stiefel
“Heroin(e),” Elaine McMillion Sheldon, Kerrin Sheldon
“Knife Skills,” Thomas Lennon
“Traffic Stop,” Kate Davis, David Heilbroner

Best Live Action Short Film:

“DeKalb Elementary,” Reed Van Dyk
“The Eleven O’Clock,” Derin Seale, Josh Lawson
“My Nephew Emmett,” Kevin Wilson, Jr.
“The Silent Child,” Chris Overton, Rachel Shenton
“Watu Wote/All of Us,” Katja Benrath, Tobias Rosen

Best Foreign Language Film:

“A Fantastic Woman” (Chile)
“The Insult” (Lebanon)
“Loveless” (Russia)
“On Body and Soul (Hungary)
“The Square” (Sweden)

Film Editing:

“Baby Driver,” Jonathan Amos, Paul Machliss
“Dunkirk,” Lee Smith
“I, Tonya,” Tatiana S. Riegel
“The Shape of Water,” Sidney Wolinsky
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri,” Jon Gregory

Sound Editing:

“Baby Driver,” Julian Slater
“Blade Runner 2049,” Mark Mangini, Theo Green
“Dunkirk,” Alex Gibson, Richard King
“The Shape of Water,” Nathan Robitaille, Nelson Ferreira
“Star Wars: The Last Jedi,” Ren Klyce, Matthew Wood

Sound Mixing:

“Baby Driver,” Mary H. Ellis, Julian Slater, Tim Cavagin
“Blade Runner 2049,” Mac Ruth, Ron Bartlett, Doug Hephill
“Dunkirk,” Mark Weingarten, Gregg Landaker, Gary A. Rizzo
“The Shape of Water,” Glen Gauthier, Christian Cooke, Brad Zoern
“Star Wars: The Last Jedi,” Stuart Wilson, Ren Klyce, David Parker, Michael Semanick

Production Design:

“Beauty and the Beast,” Sarah Greenwood; Katie Spencer
“Blade Runner 2049,” Dennis Gassner, Alessandra Querzola
“Darkest Hour,” Sarah Greenwood, Katie Spencer
“Dunkirk,” Nathan Crowley, Gary Fettis
“The Shape of Water,” Paul D. Austerberry, Jeffrey A. Melvin, Shane Vieau

Original Score:

“Dunkirk,” Hans Zimmer
“Phantom Thread,” Jonny Greenwood
“The Shape of Water,” Alexandre Desplat
“Star Wars: The Last Jedi,” John Williams
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri,” Carter Burwell

Original Song:

“Mighty River” from “Mudbound,” Mary J. Blige
“Mystery of Love” from “Call Me by Your Name,” Sufjan Stevens
“Remember Me” from “Coco,” Kristen Anderson-Lopez, Robert Lopez
“Stand Up for Something” from “Marshall,” Diane Warren, Common
“This Is Me” from “The Greatest Showman,” Benj Pasek, Justin Paul

Makeup and Hair:

“Darkest Hour,” Kazuhiro Tsuji, David Malinowski, Lucy Sibbick
“Victoria and Abdul,” Daniel Phillips and Lou Sheppard
“Wonder,” Arjen Tuiten

Costume Design:

“Beauty and the Beast,” Jacqueline Durran
“Darkest Hour,” Jacqueline Durran
“Phantom Thread,” Mark Bridges
“The Shape of Water,” Luis Sequeira
“Victoria and Abdul,” Consolata Boyle

Visual Effects:

“Blade Runner 2049,” John Nelson, Paul Lambert, Richard R. Hoover, Gerd Nefzer
“Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2,” Christopher Townsend, Guy Williams, Jonathan Fawkner, Dan Sudick
“Kong: Skull Island,” Stephen Rosenbaum, Jeff White, Scott Benza, Mike Meinardus
“Star Wars: The Last Jedi,” Ben Morris, Mike Mulholland, Chris Corbould, Neal Scanlan
“War for the Planet of the Apes,” Joe Letteri, Dan Lemmon, Daniel Barrett, Joel Whist





Notable snubs: "Jane" for doc, Vicky Kreips for actress, "Lost City of Z", "Phantom Thread" for original screenplay, Armie Hammer supporting actor, "Good Time", Robert Pattinson, Denis Villeneuve, "Florida Project" for picture,



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My 10 for 2018


1. Phantom Thread
2. mother!
3. Jane
4. Blade Runner 2049
5. The Killing of a Sacred Deer
6. Dunkirk
7. Call Me By Your Name
8. The Shape of Water
9. Good Time
10. The Square

BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Jan 24, 2018

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Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene
Hoping for Call Me By Your Name best pic win, but probably won't happen after Moonlight winning last year.

My top 5:
1. Call Me By Your Name
2. Blade Runner 2049
3. John Wick Chapter 2
4. Atomic Blonde
5. mother!

Yaws
Oct 23, 2013

What's the frontrunner for Best Picture?

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Darkest Hour getting a Best Picture nomination over Florida Project is some monstrously stupid activity.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Yaws posted:

What's the frontrunner for Best Picture?

The Shape of Water and Three Billboards..., I think, with maybe a slight edge to Shape.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Magic Hate Ball posted:

Darkest Hour getting a Best Picture nomination over Florida Project is some monstrously stupid activity.

Totally agree. Also, the chances of Oldman getting Actor are pretty high, which is a little depressing because it's another "career acknowledgment" win.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.
I think they’ll give it to DDL just because it’s his last.

Yaws
Oct 23, 2013

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

The Shape of Water and Three Billboards..., I think, with maybe a slight edge to Shape.

Are either of those films Oscar Bait? That's my main criticism of the Academy Awards.

I have seen neither film.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

GonSmithe posted:

I think they’ll give it to DDL just because it’s his last.

It's a goodass performance to be fair.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Yaws posted:

Are either of those films Oscar Bait? That's my main criticism of the Academy Awards.

I have seen neither film.

Nope, they're both fairly unconventional. Shape even has female masturbation :schlick: to breakfast egg timers



The Post is the Oscar bait this year.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

Magic Hate Ball posted:

It's a goodass performance to be fair.

I haven’t seen it yet, should be seeing it soon. Was just assuming that would be the case, no matter how good it is or isn’t.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Magic Hate Ball posted:

It's a goodass performance to be fair.

It's an awesome performance, if a bit less so than Vicky Krieps'


Very cool to see Leslie Manville (and Greenwood) get some recognition.

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich
Christopher Plummer better win.

And Kong: Skull Island got nominated for visual effects? :laffo:

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

i fuckin love movies about britain in world war ii. more of them please. let's make every british actor play george vi and churchill. they can switch parts like in true west

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
They chose Dunkirk over Bladerunner 2049 for Zimmer's music? And they put Last Jedi, easily Williams weakest star wars score, in for a nomination?

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Not to mention Streep instead of Krieps, which is simple loving insanity.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

Nope, they're both fairly unconventional. Shape even has female masturbation :schlick: to breakfast egg timers

That sounds totally artistic instead of hacky.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
My ideal winners would be...

Best Picture:

“Get Out”


Lead Actor:

Daniel Kaluuya, “Get Out”


Lead Actress:

Margot Robbie, “I, Tonya”

Supporting Actor:

Woody Harrelson, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”


Supporting Actress:

Laurie Metcalf, “Lady Bird”


Director:

“The Shape of Water,” Guillermo del Toro

Animated Feature:

“Coco,” Lee Unkrich, Darla K. Anderson

Original Screenplay:

“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri,” Martin McDonagh

Original Score:

“The Shape of Water,” Alexandre Desplat

I need to catch up on the foreign films, docs, and shorts

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Give everything to Dunkirk because everything g else looks like poo poo

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.

You’re loving wrong.

My only particularly strong opinion is that I’ll be crushed inside if Deakins gets hosed over for a 14th time.

BR2049 is one of the best-looking movies I’ve seen in years, and his best since Assassination of Jesse James. I’m pretty sure I whispered “gently caress!” a dozen times because of how incredible a shot looked.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I'm just in it for Sufjan and Get Out. I want it to win in every category it's nominated for.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Yea Deakins winning is all I'm really concerned about, he better loving win this time.

It's amazing just how cursed this guy is. Assassination of Jesse James AND No Country For Old Men in the same year.....but then that has to be the year that There Will Be Blood dominated everything(rightfully so).

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Blade Runner 2049 is probably the best looking movie I saw this year but I'm rooting for Rachel Morrison because Mudbound is real good looking too and I'd rather Deakins win for a good movie

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

BR 2049 is good

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Blade Runner 2049 is probably the best looking movie I saw this year but I'm rooting for Rachel Morrison because Mudbound is real good looking too and I'd rather Deakins win for a good movie

I know we take it for granted that the guy will make a nomination worthy film every year, but we can't have him retiring(or the other thing) without that win. It would be an absolute disgrace, this man is owed an Oscar, and not some bullshit lifetime achievement award either.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

banned from Starbucks posted:

Give everything to Dunkirk because everything g else looks like poo poo

ok generic conservative pundit

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Three Billboards eating up two Supporting Actor slots is straight B.S. when you've got Ben Safdie, Armie Hammer, and Michael Shannon all dangling to dry.

Also, we need justice for Frederick Wiseman.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



TrixRabbi posted:

Three Billboards eating up two Supporting Actor slots is straight B.S. when you've got Ben Safdie, Armie Hammer, and Michael Shannon all dangling to dry.

Also, we need justice for Frederick Wiseman.

I'm not even that into Michael Shannon and I agree with you. He absolutely destroyed in Shape.



This does seem like another case of the Academy not wanting image problems associated with awarding antagonist roles (ex. everyone but Marlon Brando winning for Streetcar..., etc).

RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:


The Post is the Oscar bait this year.

The Post and Darkest Hour. At least Darkest Hour had Gary Oldman and some cool shots. The Post I thought was painfully bad for being Spielberg.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Basebf555 posted:

I know we take it for granted that the guy will make a nomination worthy film every year, but we can't have him retiring(or the other thing) without that win. It would be an absolute disgrace, this man is owed an Oscar, and not some bullshit lifetime achievement award either.

yeah but it's funny that he loses every time, i don't wanna break the streak

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

TrixRabbi posted:

Three Billboards eating up two Supporting Actor slots is straight B.S. when you've got Ben Safdie, Armie Hammer, and Michael Shannon all dangling to dry.

Also, we need justice for Frederick Wiseman.

if there was a supporting actor to nudge out Harrelson it was Sebastian Stan in I, Tonya IMO, although I hear Armie Hammer is very good in Call Me By Your Name (Safdie was good in a one-note part, Shannon was fine too but it's the kind of role he can do in his sleep).

I'd also accept O'Shea Jackson Jr. for Ingrid Goes West which was maybe the most movie-stealing performance i saw all year.

and if there was a documentary filmmaker snubbed sorry Wiseman but it was Ceyda Torun

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

This does seem like another case of the Academy not wanting image problems associated with awarding antagonist roles (ex. everyone but Marlon Brando winning for Streetcar..., etc).

What? Heath Ledger, Javier Bardem, Daniel Day-Lewis, J.K Simmons, and Christoph Waltz all won Oscars for playing evil dudes, all in the last 10 years and are probably the biggest names that I can come up from memory.

If you want an Oscar playing rear end in a top hat or straight bad guy is a good way to do it.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Electronico6 posted:

What? Heath Ledger, Javier Bardem, Daniel Day-Lewis, J.K Simmons, and Christoph Waltz all won Oscars for playing evil dudes, all in the last 10 years and are probably the biggest names that I can come up from memory.

If you want an Oscar playing rear end in a top hat or straight bad guy is a good way to do it.

yeah the supporting actor category is especially rife with bad guy roles (Gene Hackman in Unforgiven being one of my favorite winners)

if we're talking Shape of Water and I'm being honest, I don't get what Octavia Spencer is doing there. She's a good actress, but it's a nothing role. I'm not sure about its screenplay nomination either. I think they just got caught up in nominating it for everything they could.

Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 24, 2018

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

if there was a supporting actor to nudge out Harrelson it was Sebastian Stan in I, Tonya IMO, although I hear Armie Hammer is very good in Call Me By Your Name (Safdie was good in a one-note part, Shannon was fine too but it's the kind of role he can do in his sleep).

I'd also accept O'Shea Jackson Jr. for Ingrid Goes West which was maybe the most movie-stealing performance i saw all year.

and if there was a documentary filmmaker snubbed sorry Wiseman but it was Ceyda Torun

Armie in CMBYN is probably the best role he's had so far, and really plays to his strengths.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Ubiquitous_ posted:

Armie in CMBYN is probably the best role he's had so far, and really plays to his strengths.

I really gotta see that movie, that and Phantom Thread are at the top of my catch-up list

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Lol the animated feature list this year is a shitshow.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Electronico6 posted:

What? Heath Ledger, Javier Bardem, Daniel Day-Lewis, J.K Simmons, and Christoph Waltz all won Oscars for playing evil dudes, all in the last 10 years and are probably the biggest names that I can come up from memory.

If you want an Oscar playing rear end in a top hat or straight bad guy is a good way to do it.

Depends on what's going on in that year, as I said, it's an image thing.

In the year that the Weinstein scandal broke there seems not much chance in the Academy recognizing an actor for brilliantly and humorously inhabiting the role of a vile misogynist. Female voices are the issue this year, plain and simple.

And even if I think the weird politics and moral equivalencies in Three Billboards... are a bit hosed it makes sense that Academy voters would blindly fall for Sam Rockwell's racist redemption arc, they always do.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



So is Shape if Water really that good, or is it just getting a bunch of nods because it came out not too long ago and Del Toro could film decomposing roadkill and make it look amazing?

I’m happy to see Get Out get some nominations and I hope Jordan Peele at least picks up the win for original screenplay, since the horror genre is always woefully ignored with the Oscars (I still feel that even though 10 Cloverfield Lane wasn’t Oscar-worthy in any other sense, John Goodman deserved a nomination for best actor last year, because holy poo poo). I know Daniel Kaluuya stands no chance against Oldman or DDL, but I can hope.

Here’s to another year of me doing a few bong rips and saying ‘really?!’ or ‘oh come on!’ at the tv for a few hours, with the occasional ‘oh nice!’ peppered in.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

LadyPictureShow posted:

So is Shape if Water really that good, or is it just getting a bunch of nods because it came out not too long ago and Del Toro could film decomposing roadkill and make it look amazing?

It's very solid and definitely the best Del Toro film since Pan's Labyrinth, but it falls just short of cracking my top 10 for the year. Worth watching, though.

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WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

LadyPictureShow posted:

So is Shape if Water really that good, or is it just getting a bunch of nods because it came out not too long ago and Del Toro could film decomposing roadkill and make it look amazing?

Some of both. It's a really good movie, but the Academy is absolutely dickriding it for inscrutable reasons.

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