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Over the years I'd seen the opening shot a bunch of times and watched maybe the first 20 minutes or so a few times. I finally watched the whole thing and I can't believe how different the overall movie is from what I expected. I don't even know where to begin. I guess I just thought it was gonna be a predictable film about a disco dance contest with a few dance numbers but the dancing in the movie is a brief reprieve from the main story filled with abusive relationships, gang vioence, rape, drugs, and tobacco-stained teeth.
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It's about a working class family in Brooklyn in the '70s. What else would you expect?
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Feb 1, 2018 04:56
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What was the deal with the subplot about the brother not wanting to be a priest? It didn't go anywhere whatsoever.
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Feb 1, 2018 05:02
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Tommy Rawhead posted:It's about a working class family in Brooklyn in the '70s. What else would you expect?
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Feb 1, 2018 05:45
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It's a really good movie with an amazing soundtrack.
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Feb 1, 2018 14:35
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Saturday Night Fever is a good example of how a sequel can actually retroactively make the original worse, because it infects people's minds. The image that most people have of what Saturday Night Fever will be is usually very close to what Staying Alive actually is.
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Feb 1, 2018 16:44
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Staying Alive is so so bad. But it does have the greatest ending ever. “What are ya gonna do now?” “I’m gonna strut.” And he does just that.
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Feb 1, 2018 18:56
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Anonymous John posted:What was the deal with the subplot about the brother not wanting to be a priest? It didn't go anywhere whatsoever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Americans
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Feb 1, 2018 19:04
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Would ya just watch the hair? Y'know, I work on my hair a long time and you hit it. He hits my hair.
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Feb 1, 2018 20:34
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What's amazing about this is that the PG edit of the movie was just as popular and got a lot of play. It's likely where the image of it being a silly little disco movie came from. It's 10 minutes shorter, removes all of the swearing, fighting, any hints of nudity and the rape scene.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:53
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 Oh look, it's the first sighting of Slenderman
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Feb 1, 2018 23:55
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That rape scene was brutal, and it made the ending really hard to watch. DrVenkman posted:What's amazing about this is that the PG edit of the movie was just as popular and got a lot of play. It's likely where the image of it being a silly little disco movie came from. It's 10 minutes shorter, removes all of the swearing, fighting, any hints of nudity and the rape scene. I never saw anything from this film before watching it, so I just assumed it'd be Travolta strutting down the dancefloor to the Bee-Gees. Boy, was not expecting any of that.
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It's one of those things where the harmless poppyness of disco is what's carried on in the popular consciousness, as opposed to the actual draw of disco, which was basically yellow journalism about this sexually frivolous, coke-fueled nightlife. Saturday Night Fever is a 'youth in revolt' film, like Blackboard Jungle.
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Feb 2, 2018 04:29
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I watched Saturday Night Fever, but I don't remember anything about it. I just remember being really shocked that the disco movie was way darker than I was expecting.
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Feb 3, 2018 00:06
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Have the New York magazine article that inspired the film, Nik Cohn's (self-admittedly fabricated) "Tribal Rites of the New Saturday Night." http://nymag.com/nightlife/features/45933/
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K. Waste posted:Have the New York magazine article that inspired the film, Nik Cohn's (self-admittedly fabricated) "Tribal Rites of the New Saturday Night." http://nymag.com/nightlife/features/45933/ quote:Italians were Italian, Latins were greaseballs, Jews were different, and blacks were born to lose. Each group had its own ideal, its own style of Face. But they never touched. If one member erred, ventured beyond his own allotted territory, he was beaten up. That was the law. There was no alternative. Kind of sums up the feel of the movie.
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Feb 3, 2018 15:30
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It's like when people see Rocky for the first time expecting Rocky IV but instead they get crippling poverty and depression.
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Feb 3, 2018 19:18
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It's like when people watch Ghostbusters and aren't too blinkered by nostalgia to look past the awful, awful sexism
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Vegetable posted:It's like when people watch Ghostbusters and aren't too blinkered by nostalgia to look past the awful, awful sexism What?
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Feb 3, 2018 23:52
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K. Waste posted:Have the New York magazine article that inspired the film, Nik Cohn's (self-admittedly fabricated) "Tribal Rites of the New Saturday Night." http://nymag.com/nightlife/features/45933/ Cohn has in fact barely been to Brooklyn and based the characters on figures he knew back in the UK. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jun/26/lie-heart-disco-nik-cohn-tribal-rites-saturday-night-fever
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TrixRabbi posted:It's like when people see Rocky for the first time expecting Rocky IV but instead they get crippling poverty and depression. Or Rambo after its sequels.
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The late 70s and early 80s produced a bunch of movies about working class misery. Then the sequels took out all that misery, kept the surface aesthetics, but made them either thematically empty, blandly inspirational or jingoistically patriotic. There are probably some cultural implications or forces at play beyond just the movies.
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Feb 4, 2018 11:24
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Well, the social climate changed dramatically and those vacuous 80s (and 90s) sequels fit the era in which they were made quite well.
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Moon Atari posted:The late 70s and early 80s produced a bunch of movies about working class misery. Then the sequels took out all that misery, kept the surface aesthetics, but made them either thematically empty, blandly inspirational or jingoistically patriotic. There are probably some cultural implications or forces at play beyond just the movies. It's kind of crazy to watch SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER and then STAYING ALIVE and seeing how hugely opposed they are. You could just name Travolta's character in the sequel John Smith and it would make no difference at all
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