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UnlimitedSpessmans
Jul 31, 2015

Not Operator posted:

Did he majorly sober up? He was a notoriously abusive prick for a long time.

i'm fairly sure he's cleaned up his act for atleast a year, as I'm saying this a sun article will be published showing a video of him pissing on a swan or something.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

UnlimitedSpessmans posted:

i'm fairly sure he's cleaned up his act for atleast a year, as I'm saying this a sun article will be published showing a video of him pissing on a swan or something.

Vandalism of crown property is very Correct though?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

UKMT Feb 18: squat weeing, falling over and rolling in their wee

don't kinkshame

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Pesky Splinter posted:

When will Jeremy push the button? <:reject:>

Holy wow that's just too good

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/BENEFITS_NEWS/status/959056379632865280

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/AlfDubs/status/958699219484803074

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

At that point what the hell even makes you a tory?

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

being a massive oval office

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




OwlFancier posted:

At that point what the hell even makes you a tory?

Greed?

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.
Gotta keep that red passport as long as possible..

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I just think it's weird to go "Well I wish the Tory leader would gently caress off and everyone else is going to vote Labour and the Tory government's loving me over but I still identify as a Tory"

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

the tories are pushing me into poverty and it's all them foreigners fault

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!

Looke posted:

the tories are pushing me into poverty and it's all them foreigners fault

This is legit my mum and its super sad.

She also thinks the reason her PIP got cut is too many shirkers taking advantage of the welfare system.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
My mother genuinely believes that she was hit as hard by austerity as everyone else because they made her wait a bit for her pension and bus pass. It has been truly dreadful for her, she only had her fully paid off half a million pound four bedroom house*, brand new Nissan cash ki (sp), the part time job she took so she could keep away from dad and her two private pensions as a back up plan.

*which as she will gleefully tell her children at every available opportunity is willed to the RSPCA, because as we were adopted it is someone else’s turn to have her support. (Reminder that my mother is a literal fascist and has breached several human rights laws, both national and international, and is not just your common or garden Tory)

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Not Operator posted:

This is legit my mum and its super sad.

She also thinks the reason her PIP got cut is too many shirkers taking advantage of the welfare system.

I was involved in a successful appeal of PIP for one of the people I help the other day. Literally taken advantage of by the "nurse" doing the assessment, wasn't fit to represent themselves, spent months getting everything together so we could fight their corner.

They blamed junkies and alcoholics because they could get PIP but he couldn't right up until the point where they were awarded their PIP.

It's a loving poisonous mentality.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

I'm okay with this if she's literally building the houses herself

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!
The people who do those medical assessments are human loving garbage.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
Tory slow motion trainwreck status: continues to cause sensible chuckles

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012



It says in the article that the Tories have been floating a similar policy so it’s probably not quite as radical as it sounds.

Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Feb 2, 2018

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Not Operator posted:

The people who do those medical assessments are human loving garbage.

I’ll have you know that they’re actually just following orders standard procedure :colbert:

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Comrade Fakename posted:

It says I’m the article that the Tories have been floating a similar policy so it’s probably not quite as radical as it sounds.

That’s because when Tories do it it’s a last-ditch effort to prevent the last labour government’s policies from doing further damage which they carry out in a way that’s as economically unobstructive as possible for as briefly as possible before letting the free market return. When Labour do it it’s obviously Jezzinist purges to usher in eternal jam socialism.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Pesky Splinter posted:


When will Jeremy push the button? <:reject:>

The big red Socialism button? soon, I hope!



I am now out of the Labour meeting and boy, do people enjoy the sound of their own voices!

"I'm sure you've all read my motion already, so let me be brief..."

*Rambles on incoherently for seven minutes while the chair repeatedly glances at his watch and contemplates suicide*

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I have to go to a PIP hearing as a witness whenever the gently caress it’s actually going to happen because someone I escorted to an assessment got their benefits cut 6 months ago. This man has hips made out of dust and a heart condition that means he can’t be put under general anaesthetic.

Taxi pulls up outside the building’s front doors on a industrial estate in the middle of loving nowhere 30 miles away from where he lives.
I help him out of the taxi and because there is no ramp I have to half carry him up the steps.
I help him to the interview room door along a corridor filled with cameras, he can’t walk to the door on his own because the lack of a ramp nearly ruined him.

Woman who did the assessment said he wasn’t entitled to mobility because she had seen him walk unaided for 200 yards. When they were asked for the camera footage we were told that it had been “lost”

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

There are young Tories?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...
It is a good OP, but:

quote:

Brexit continues to Brexit - thanks to some leaked documents that state it's going to be a rougher ride than previously thought
The leaked forecasts are pretty much in line with the "project fear" ones from before the referendum, so I'd say it's more accurate to say it's going to be just as rough as previously thought

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

suck my woke dick posted:

That’s because when Tories do it it’s a last-ditch effort to prevent the last labour government’s policies from doing further damage which they carry out in a way that’s as economically unobstructive as possible for as briefly as possible before letting the free market return. When Labour do it it’s obviously Jezzinist purges to usher in eternal jam socialism.
Nationalize --> Build housing using public money --> Sell it back at the price they originally paid to nationalize

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Looke posted:

being a massive oval office

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Guavanaut posted:

Glorious free market news, Capita has continued to poo poo the bed the day after the crash, falling through the floor at 190 set by yesterday's trading:


For investors to make anything back on the face price now, they'd have to have bought in at *looks*


This is (only, and even then just marginally) good for Blair's early investors?

In conclusion PFI bad Capita bad.

e: 2 is the market price of Capita shares by the end of week's trading.

Strictly speaking that's not true because dividends. They did of course pay out over 4% dividend yield in 2017 which clearly reflected the rude health in which the company was.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!

learnincurve posted:

I have to go to a PIP hearing as a witness whenever the gently caress it’s actually going to happen because someone I escorted to an assessment got their benefits cut 6 months ago. This man has hips made out of dust and a heart condition that means he can’t be put under general anaesthetic.

Taxi pulls up outside the building’s front doors on a industrial estate in the middle of loving nowhere 30 miles away from where he lives.
I help him out of the taxi and because there is no ramp I have to half carry him up the steps.
I help him to the interview room door along a corridor filled with cameras, he can’t walk to the door on his own because the lack of a ramp nearly ruined him.

Woman who did the assessment said he wasn’t entitled to mobility because she had seen him walk unaided for 200 yards. When they were asked for the camera footage we were told that it had been “lost”

I'm fully convinced its a scam designed to make people give up. Lie to fail them on the assessment and not all of them will apply for reconsideration. Automatically deny the reconsideration, lose more people who don't have the energy to appeal to tribunal. I don't really have numbers on this, but it really feels like they're counting on people getting too frustrated with the system to continue.

Its the only thing I have to explain the ridiculous number of successful appeals, which last I checked was still over 60%. Imagine you were a waiter and more than half of all orders you took, you hosed up and the customer had to email a third party to get their refund. The only reason you don't get fired in a situation like this is if your scumbag boss is complicit and knows most customers will just say its too much hassle.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Strictly speaking that's not true because dividends. They did of course pay out over 4% dividend yield in 2017 which clearly reflected the rude health in which the company was.

On the other hand you gotta beat inflation, not face value, to not be losing money in the real world...

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Strictly speaking that's not true because dividends. They did of course pay out over 4% dividend yield in 2017 which clearly reflected the rude health in which the company was.
Yeah, I was only going by face value.
Dividends are just your rightful reward for choosing to bestow your wealth on the business etc etc.
You'd still be better off putting your money in an easy saver than buying at any point in the past 15 years.

e:

Not Operator posted:

I'm fully convinced its a scam designed to make people give up. Lie to fail them on the assessment and not all of them will apply for reconsideration. Automatically deny the reconsideration, lose more people who don't have the energy to appeal to tribunal. I don't really have numbers on this, but it really feels like they're counting on people getting too frustrated with the system to continue.
Any system where 5 letters from professionals can be trumped by a single 10 minute assessment is dodgy as gently caress at the least.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Feb 1, 2018

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Strictly speaking that's not true because dividends. They did of course pay out over 4% dividend yield in 2017 which clearly reflected the rude health in which the company was.

If Capita can't reverse that slide, they're going bust whatever. I expected them to stabilise at 200p and then stage a very slow, shaky recovery, not lose ANOTHER 15% the next day, holy poo poo. By the end of next week you'll be able to buy the company with the spare change down the back of your sofa, at this rate.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Not Operator posted:

I'm fully convinced its a scam designed to make people give up

This profit by attrition approach is everywhere. Most people's jobs are actually to just obfuscate and misdirect until they have the money. Try cancelling your sky subscription, getting your legally mandated ryanair compensation or appealing a parking ticket for a car that doesn't exist in a dead person's name. No matter the scenario the plan is to leverage wealth, knowledge or any other advantage to extract money from people because they aren't really people, they are money mines. Money.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
Well yeah obviously try not to own shares in a company that collapses!

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
In further "We're all in this together" news, the Nursing & Midwifery Council just voted its' Council members an 11% pay rise.
I'm not a nurse, but it doesn't exactly inspire faith in your professional body if, at a time when NHS salaries have been frozen for years, they decide that such concerns are above them.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008


Apart from all the wife beating and that

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

NotJustANumber99 posted:

This profit by attrition approach is everywhere. Most people's jobs are actually to just obfuscate and misdirect until they have the money. Try cancelling your sky subscription, getting your legally mandated ryanair compensation or appealing a parking ticket for a car that doesn't exist in a dead person's name. No matter the scenario the plan is to leverage wealth, knowledge or any other advantage to extract money from people because they aren't really people, they are money mines. Money.
Thanks for reminding me to preorder Bullshit Jobs.
Imagine if all those jobs were replaced with ones useful to the community.

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Well yeah obviously try not to own shares in a company
Good advice. I hear gulags were bad.

Manic_Misanthrope
Jul 1, 2010


Guavanaut posted:

*in extremely neoliberal voice* But who makes money out of it?

Guillotine Manufacturers

Poison Jam
Mar 29, 2009

Shh...
We're being watched.
If I have to do another assesment for PIP I'll be terrified jut like the last 2 times. I'm on the lower rate even though I'm in constant agony, can't do much and have pretty bad mental health problems because those cunts don't care at all. If I'm ever declared fit for work I'll just kill myself because I won't be able to survive anyway so I'm gonna go out on my terms not theirs. I already spend a lot of my time crying either because of pain or how poo poo my life is. What really pisses me off is people thinking I'm faking it so I can get money. Yes you stupid gently caress, I gave up £1200 a month to get £304. gently caress the tories and anyone who voted for them. I want them to die in agony because I'm past giving a poo poo about other people when they don't care about me.

Sorry for ranting :smith:

Edit: Oh great my avatar and jammy bastards tag is gone, I'm assuming the racist did that. What's weird is that last week that would've been enought to tip me over the edge and take all my lyrica. gently caress everything

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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
Goons, don't suffer alone. Join us in #ukgoons (synirc - link in OP) (INTERNET RADICAL CHATZONE) for QUESTION TIME:

quote:

David Dimbleby chairs the debate from Grantham, with a panel of politicians and other guests facing topical questions from the audience. On the panel are Conservative MP and former education secretary, Justine Greening, Labour MP John Mann, who voted for Brexit and once described Jeremy Corbyn as 'not remotely up to the job' of leading the Labour Party into power, deputy leader of the Liberal Democrats, Jo Swinson MP, head of the New Economics Forum and former advisor to Ed Miliband, Miatta Fahnbulleh, and the Daily Telegraph writer and columnist, Tim Stanley.

It's good that they tell us why they invited John Mann onto the programme.

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