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I give it a solid 6/9
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Feb 5, 2018 06:49
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It was pre' good - enough to remain casually optimistic about foregoing films. Best character was the disembodied arm, really shoulda done more with that.
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Feb 5, 2018 06:54
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Really expected the arm to grab the gun. Pretty decent sci-fi movie. I was expecting it to go more Event Horizon with the guy who went nuts but it veered back to Abyss pretty quick.
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Feb 5, 2018 06:59
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I need to know if Christopher Hart played the hand/arm, it is probably the most interesting thing about this movie to me.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:02
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The movie just felt like a series of space station movie cliches, done badly with characters it was hard to give a poo poo about. With the spooky stuff it mostly did what wanted without rhyme or reason because whatever you don't know that wouldn't happen! It was directed with the passion of a first season episode of Voyager, it wasn't scary, the cut aways to earth added nothing and the ties to the original movie were forced and don't really line up very well Also it gave the space Russian a gun which it then put away to come up again later, which is the type of smug dumb joke I will not tolerate 
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Feb 5, 2018 07:05
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Oh no! We're running out of power. Because apparently the sun has burnt out and we've forgotten how nuclear reactors work. Or something. Please save us stupid magical space lab and worst expository 'sitting in a car' introduction I've ever loving seen. I miss when this was about giant monsters and shaky cam. 
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Feb 5, 2018 07:07
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The movie was a trashy fun mashup of Sunshine and Event Horizon that just happens to occur in the Cloverfield universe. Or multiverse now because there’s a lot of goofy sci-fi poo poo happening on this one. Then again, the 2nd one literally had an alien ship so it’s not like there’s a need for anything in the series to be grounded. The first half I felt was pretty good with some really fun / creepy instances in the station. Also there were some good deaths in the movie. Movie kinda lost its way at the end and the story on Earth never had any real payoff and could have been cut/avoided entirely. I guess they needed it to setup the final reveal. Speaking of, Clover’s mom is huge. Of if there’s a ton of these around then they can grow to be frigging huge. I mean even low level clouds are pretty loving high Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 07:09
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I was reading on reddit last week that there’s a fourth movie already finished that takes place during world war 2. If true, hell, I’m down.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:11
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I enjoyed it, but a monster/space/alternate dimension movie is extremely my poo poo. It was trying to do too much at once though, and the more I think about the writing the more random it seems. Like where did the body horror go? Chekhov's gun much? I'm annoyed this wasn't released in theatres solely because of the last scene. Imagine the audience reaction.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:13
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I'm glad the internet is abuzz about a sci-fi film that got unexpectedly dropped on it, but that was a pretty thin, if not entirely unenjoyable, mashup of stronger influences (Alien and Aliens, Solaris, Sunshine, Event Horizon, that one Futurama episode). I'll take it. Definitely the weakest of the "series" so far, but the first two films are strong so that's not the most damning indictment.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:15
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Decent $50M Star Trek episode. Needed more arm. There were a lot of cool moments but the whole was less than the sum of its parts. The family aspect was flat and I would have preferred 15 minutes on Earth instead of watching home movies. The script and acting was not as good as 10 Cloverfield Lane but the Cloverfield integration was far better which is probably for the best going forward.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:18
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Just be glad you didnt go pay the 15$ to see it.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:21
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I thought it felt pretty weak. Maybe I was wrong expecting anything close to 10 Cloverfield Lane in quality, but I got something that wasn't even as good as Jason X (Not that Jason X is some kind of bad movie or anything but still).
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Feb 5, 2018 07:23
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What's interesting or engaging about the Cloverfield Franchise is its ability to trick people into thinking its next installment will be anything more than a spectacle driven fantasy-sci-fi blockbuster with cardboard characters attempting to act out their writer's pretentious dreams of psychodrama. Every entry has been lazy and, based on its announcing just how into itself it is with this latest stunt, it's not going to stop for a long time. EDIT: I'm not even halfway through this movie and we already have integral multi-dimension theory plot devices, theistic pseudo-rumination, and adolescent perceptions on global politics driving character motivations. Christ, either these filmmakers have incredibly poor faith in their audience or they genuinely don't care about what they're doing. I can forgive lazy, visionless craftsmanship in hollywood porn, but this is bordering on the same level of ineptitude displayed by Bright and Star Trek Discovery. Wonderful Bread fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 07:36
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e: ^^^ nah, we like that stuff. Show me someone who doesn't find spectacle driven fantasy-sci-fi blockbusters fun and I'll show you a stick in the mud. Really dug the entire movie. Need to process, I think, but I'll echo the statement that this pushed a lot of the yes-please buttons on my end, and having the main universe be the Cloverfield 1 universe was brilliant, because just doing that adds a bunch. But holy poo poo, that ending. Reminds me of (not sure if this is spoilerblock territory or not) Halloween 3. Mama Clover! MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 07:40
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I think it's overly kind to say this connects into the original movie. Like literally no part of the plot if this movie is even indicated in any way and the one indication of where the monster comes from present in the original doesn't line up to what happens in this movie at all I don't even care about how well it ties in but praising it for that seems odd given how completely half assed it was and how little impact it has on anything
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Feb 5, 2018 07:47
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I could have used more Event Horizion in the mix and a little less Mission to Mars. As is the film was at its best when it was being really weird, the climax endnig in a bog standard "this bit is broken better got heroic sacrifice about it," was pretty dissapointing. Chris O'dowd stole basically every scene he was in, and more weird things needed to happen to him.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:47
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This movie wasn't good. I will not be watching the next one.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:50
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I remember that general consensus was that "Valencia" was bought, reshot, and ever-so-slightly-modified to become 10 Cloverfield Lane. Was God Particle given the same Cloverizing, or did it seem like it was meant to be a Clover Flick all along?
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Feb 5, 2018 07:52
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glam rock hamhock posted:I think it's overly kind to say this connects into the original movie. How can you say that? It has a frigging Cloverfield monster in it. All the oddities come out in the wash as "well, we didn't see anything in the first movie that says this new stuff wasn't going on" mixed with "We mucked with reality on a fundamental basis, remember its just a movie and relax". poo poo, they even used the thing landing in the ocean chestnut from the first film. glam rock hamhock posted:I don't even care about how well it ties in but praising it for that seems odd given how completely half assed it was and how little impact it has on anything It's sorta like how Split gets a ton better when you realize it's in the (again, not sure if spoilerblocking a movie that's been out for a while) Unbreakable universe. I'm not going to even feign some high-minded notions behind this; you connect to a movie I really like, I'm gonna really like your new movie. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 07:52
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I liked it, it was a fun movie, not the greatest film of all time but sometimes its nice to just have whacky poo poo happen cause you hosed with another dimension. If you dissect it, it will fall apart, but its a monster movie franchise so if you do this you are an idiot.Wonderful Bread posted:EDIT: I'm not even halfway through this movie and we already have integral multi-dimension theory plot devices, theistic pseudo-rumination, and adolescent perceptions on global politics driving character motivations. I could say the same thing about this post.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:55
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Not a great movie but I’m so happy to see my boy again!
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Feb 5, 2018 07:56
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MisterBibs posted:How can you say that? It has a frigging Cloverfield monster in it. All the oddities come out in the wash as "well, we didn't see anything in the first movie that says this new stuff wasn't going on". poo poo, they even used the thing landing in the ocean chestnut from the first film. In all the news footage we see in the original, in all the background stuff, there is no indication that there's any crisis going on and no indication that it isn't taking place in present day. This isn't damning but it makes it all feel half assed and ret-conned. As for the thing landing in ocean, that clip happens in a week old video. There is a delay between the thing falling into the ocean and shitt getting hosed up. In this things start going bad on Earth almost immediately. It's like it half remembered the one thing from the original but couldn't remember how it was actually used. Once again, I think this is the least of this movies problems but the way it ties in is as half assed as can be if you actually care about that stuff. Edit: correction: the footage of the thing crashing into the ocean happens a month before the monster appears. axelblaze fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 07:59
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glam rock hamhock posted:I think it's overly kind to say this connects into the original movie. Like literally no part of the plot if this movie is even indicated in any way and the one indication of where the monster comes from present in the original doesn't line up to what happens in this movie at all Well, no - the plot of the film is explicitly that the enterprise to try and create free energy fucks up the space-time continuum. glam rock hamhock posted:In all the news footage we see in the original, in all the background stuff, there is no indication that there's any crisis going on and no indication that it isn't taking place in present day. This isn't damning but it makes it all feel half assed and ret-conned. Cloverfield does not take place in the same universe/timeline(s) as The Cloverfield Paradox.
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Feb 5, 2018 08:04
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Knifegrab posted:If you dissect it, it will fall apart, but its a monster movie franchise so if you do this you are an idiot. By this logic, dissecting any genre film makes you an idiot. When a film is as superficial as one in the Cloverfield franchise you don't need to dissect it to see the moving parts, but I suppose drooling through the media you consume makes it hard to develop opinions beyond "I liked it but it wasn't that good".
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Feb 5, 2018 08:06
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^ Eh, sure it makes you a little weird to dissect films in general, but that weirdness is amplified by a thousand if you're doing it on the wrong movies. Like, nobody is going to lose sleep over schlock in a franchise that started with a monster movie, and two other films that basically got the Cloverfield titles slapped on to unrelated films. glam rock hamhock posted:In all the news footage we see in the original, in all the background stuff, there is no indication that there's any crisis going on and no indication that it isn't taking place in present day. I know, in the post you quoted to reply to this, I mentioned the "there's nothing in the first film saying the events of the new film weren't happening" thing. If you really need your giant monster / alien invasion / space time chicanery trilogy of movies to line up, that's how you do it. Yeah, the dates don't line up, but saying 20XX to be on the safe side is the domain of Capcom games. The thing about the first Cloverfield movie is that, by its nature, we get nothing about the world outside the dude with the camera. The new movie took advantage of the fact that there's nothing against the notion that while Baby Clover was screaming for his Mama, Mama was elsewhere looking for him. . Didn't have to be planned to be awesome. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 08:11
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Wonderful Bread posted:By this logic, dissecting any genre film makes you an idiot. When a film is as superficial as one in the Cloverfield franchise you don't need to dissect it to see the moving parts, but I suppose drooling through the media you consume makes it hard to develop opinions beyond "I liked it but it wasn't that good". Source your /r/iamverysmart quotes please.
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Feb 5, 2018 08:11
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Knifegrab posted:Source your /r/iamverysmart quotes please. You're one insecure dude, dude.
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Feb 5, 2018 08:13
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Wonderful Bread posted:You're one insecure dude, dude. 
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Feb 5, 2018 08:15
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I thought The Cloverfield Paradox was pretty good. I think the first one is one of the best monster movies ever. I never saw the second one, though. Is the plot relevant to the first one, too?
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Feb 5, 2018 08:21
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Dunno how much this holds up but the way it could take place in the first movies timeline is due to the station they had in space for a different reason getting dimension blasted which caused it to explode and fall into the ocean which awoke the Cloverfield monster. This bit was part of the ARG and also in the film for a split second while rob and Beth were at the pier. So that could be the non shepherd Cloverfield station. Bing bong boom. Also that’s where the name “Cloverfield” could come from I dunno. Probably bullshit but I was thinking about it for a bit. Not much to do during that middle/end stuff. Really dull overall.
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Feb 5, 2018 08:22
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viral spiral posted:I thought The Cloverfield Paradox was pretty good. I think the first one is one of the best monster movies ever. Not a single bit.
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Feb 5, 2018 08:23
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viral spiral posted:I thought The Cloverfield Paradox was pretty good. I think the first one is one of the best monster movies ever. i didn't bother looking into it, but I'm pretty sure the connections only go as far as easter eggs
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Feb 5, 2018 08:23
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My assumption was that Cloverfield/10 Cloverfield Lane took place in dimensions suffering from some bleed through effect cause by the Shepard Accelerator.
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Feb 5, 2018 08:23
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viral spiral posted:I never saw the second one, though. Is the plot relevant to the first one, too? Nah, the second one is much more slapped-the-title-on-it than this one.
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Feb 5, 2018 08:23
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MisterBibs posted:^ Eh, ignoring what it looks like when you dissect any movie, doing so with this kinda franchise is that look times a billion. Like, sure, we'll talk about fascism in the Transformers movies here in CineD, but it's Transformers. Robots that change shapes and punch each other. What saying is that still doesn't work. Like the information we get doesn't line up at all. There's letting the audience fill in the blanks and there's having a a movie take place specifically in 2008 with a month between thing crashing into the ocean and the actual attack and another movie trying to line up despite taking place in the near future and having the monster attack immediately after things go wrong in space Like I can accept K wastes unsatisfying but probably accurate explanation but these movies simply do not line up even with "well you can't say that wasn't happening". Yes there was not much to line up in the first place but they still didn't even try
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Feb 5, 2018 08:24
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MisterBibs posted:poo poo, they even used the thing landing in the ocean chestnut from the first film. So, one thing I can't get is they find alt-reality emails and settings all over the ship, but the E2 ship crashed in the ocean some time back. so it's not like they did a Star Trek swap or anything. nitpick nerd in me can't figure out how that works, or how someone that should have died months back gets stuck on the ship.
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Feb 5, 2018 08:24
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I like how the weirdest thing happens in the film and then nothing happens after that. It’s very strange. It Peaks at the arm.
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I was really unimpressed with this. I wish they had cranked the crazy interdimensional poo poo up to 11 instead of teasing it and then moving on to a fairly standard space disaster story. Opening with ten minutes of static exposition in a car (LOL at the main character repeating the same lines almost verbatim from the intro radio voice-over 90 seconds earlier) wasn't a great way to kick things off. However, it was pretty cool to hear about and then immediately watch a big budget sci-fi movie. I probably would have never seen this if it went through the usual theater->Redbox->Netflix cycle.
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