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 Welcome to... one of the strangest things I've ever encountered in my life. At the turn of the century, Capcom apparently gave a handful of Taiwanese developers the rights to make Mega Man games. Not a ton is known about the deals that were made, but the end result of this strange series of decisions was a pair of video games: 1999's Rockman Gole Empire and 2001's Rockman Strategy. We ran an LP of Gold Empire that lasted three episodes and we moved right along, seeing as we could only barely understand what was going on in the first place, but Strategy... is another beast entirely. What is Rockman Strategy? Rockman Strategy is a 2001 video game developed by a company called Dream Come True (not to be confused with Masato Nakamura's rock band) and published by Third Wave Publishing, a subsidiary of Acer (why). It's an isometric, turn-based tactical RPG. Outside the concept of elevation, it plays surprisingly close to Final Fantasy Tactics on the map. It's about the only real comparison that can be made at all to... any other video game at all. And then there's the actual fighting. See, unlike Final Fantasy Tactics, you don't just walk up to an enemy and stab them. Instead, in a strange combination of Shining Force and The Adventure of Link, you enter into a 30-second shootout with your opponent, where you have to spam Buster shots or special moves in an attempt to knock each other out. Oh, and there's lots of egregious, horrible Day-One-of-Super-Mario-RPG-concept-phases 3D clay monster versions of everyone. Why are you playing this poo poo at all? Well, for a little over three years now, we've been running a series on our channel called The Mega Let's Play. We're playing every single Mega Man game (we've made other threads on here for the Zero series, as well as the "Axl Trilogy" of the Mega Man X series). Including... this garbage. And despite everything, this game is starting to make sense. And to add to this bizarre situation, in all my searching online, I have yet to find a single Let's Play of this game at all. Which means (somehow) after running this Alcohol 120%-based two-disc ISO in a simulated Windows XP environment in VirtualBox on a Mac... we might be the first to ever truly tackle this thing. This is gonna get rough. How to Install & Play Mega Man Strategy INTRO STAGE: Fire Man / Cut Man Part 0: "....This" Part 1: "I'll Accept That as Fact" STEELMAKING FACTORY: Aries / Bomb Man / Flame Man Attempt #1 Part 2: "FFUB" Part 3: "Taiwan/11" Attempt #2 Part 4: "The Brave Little Zodiac" Part 5: "A Moment of Rationalization" Attempt #3 Part 6: "Murder Terms" Part 7: "I Can Help Out" Attempt #4 Part 8: "The Truth Just Hurts" Part 9: "For Now, It's Going Great" COAST OFFENSIVE & DEFENSIVE: Taurus / Ice Man / Frost Man Part 10: "This Snowy Place" Part 11: "Free to Reach the Designated Location" MINE CAVE: Gemini / Guts Man / Metal Man Part 12: "Where Nothing Is Not in English" Part 13: "Scorpions at the Bottom of the Ocean" Part 14: "2,000 Hours of poo poo" BATTLE IN THE CLOUDS: Cancer / Elec Man / Spark Man Part 15: "I'll Get You, Cancer!" Part 16: "Say Nothing When They Die" SECRET SEWER: Ice Man 2 / Guts Man 2 / Cloud Man 2 (see this post) Part 19: "Master of Robats" Part 20: "Games That I Would Rather Not Play" CALDERA: Leo / Heat Man / Napalm Man Part 17: "Things Are Really Heating Up" Part 18: "Bomb-rear end Turn" UNDERSEA CITY: Virgo / Bubble Man / Freeze Man Part 21: "The Mythos of That Man" Part 22: "Shakespeare Mode" DESERT STORM: Libra / Cut Man 2 / Hard Man Part 23: "Stop Ragging on My Hose" Part 24: "Fast and Underwhelming" AIR BATTLESHIP: Scorpio / Yamato Man / Cloud Man Part 25: "One Life-or-Death Decision" Part 26: "Prick You Gently" JUNGLE: Hard Man 2 / Freeze Man 2 Part 27: "Bad in My Bones" Part 28: "But I'm Still an American!" UNCHARTED TRIBE: Pharaoh Man 2 / Tomahawk Man 2 / Napalm Man 2 Part 29: "He Thinks He's in Charge" Part 30: "A Bad Case of the Fire Spurts" BRIDGE: Bubble Man 2 / Stone Man 2 / Burst Man 2 Part 31: "Patient Flowers" MAGMA INFERNO: Sagittarius / Fire Man 2 / Burst Man Part 32: "Hidden Character" Part 33: "Status Quo" ARCTIC GLACIER: Capricorn / Dive Man / Aqua Man Part 34: "No Meat" Part 35: "You Are Very Strong" METEOR SURFACE: Aquarius / Stone Man / Astro Man Part 36: "Doing Neutral" IN A TORNADO: Pisces / Elec Man / Tomahawk Man Part 37: "The D Is for Depression" TEMPLE OF THE SUN: Apollo / Heat Man / Knight Man Part 38: "Very Smooth on the Inside" TEMPLE OF THE MOON: Luna / Skull Man / Sword Man Part 39: "Zodiac Killer" LABORATORY: Dr. Wily Capsule / Metal Man / Spark Man / Flame Man / Frost Man Part 40: "Give Up of Your Plan Now" DIMENSIONAL SPACE: Dr. Wily Robot / Bomb Man / Skull Man / Aqua Man / Sword Man Part 41: "The Fire Hose" Part 42: "He Can't Come Out Mopped" ricdesi fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 3, 2018 |
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Okay, so... there's a good chance the amount of "catch up" here may rub people the wrong way, and if that's the case and if it's super not cool, I'm happy to wring out only the episodes that have happened thus far that would be needed to move forward. Basically... it didn't occur to me to bring this to you guys at first because of what we ended up labeling as "Part 0": Part 0: "....This" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbQUlFusOaw At first, this was a busted game that we wouldn't be able to play at all, and then once things got rolling, we started having trouble just even playing the thing correctly, seeing as the "English patch" that was touted alongside the game translated essentially just the dialogue and nothing else. I might have to work on that on my own, but basically, the intro stage was a rough ride that took a while. Part 1: "I'll Accept That as Fact" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEnr6wPXO8k And so, we were off. Sort of. Turns out there are a few tricks that make the game a lot easier to play... which we were not privy to at all at the start of the ride. That gets better. So in short, this game is gonna be running for a while, and it's (apparently) unique on YouTube, Something Awful, and... just the internet at large. And I wanna pick your brains about it, 'cause I don't know what the gently caress I'm doing, and it's gonna take everything I've got to convince the rest of the team to stick with me through this horror show.
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Feb 18, 2018 03:26
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gently caress yes, ground floor for the greatest spritework in the world.
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Feb 18, 2018 06:49
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Feb 18, 2018 12:43
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LOOK AT THAT BEAUTIFUL FACE. GIVE DR. LIGHT THE NOBEL FACE PRIZE. For real, though, that's prime avatar material. It's tempting. Discendo Vox posted:gently caress yes, ground floor for the greatest spritework in the world. It is goddamn incredible how awful every ounce of the artwork in this game is, and it isn't even a consistent flavor of bad, there's like five different art styles at play here. So after getting through the Intro Stage, we (very mistakenly) figured the game would be just a simple difficulty slope, easing the player into the first set of four battles, then gradually getting harder from there. This would be the case if we could read any of our menus. Part 2: "FFUB" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcpeT8gc0JQ Part 3: "Taiwan/11" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZSIcs26UY
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Feb 18, 2018 17:21
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So our first attempt at taking down Aries... did not end well. We got pretty far, but ultimately got our asses kicked. So we're giving it another go, hoping a little more strategic use of our troops will give us victory in the first real stage of the game. Part 4: "The Brave Little Zodiac" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIjZ0xxYP4c Part 5: "A Moment of Rationalization" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrOK76puTs
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Feb 19, 2018 15:27
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Okay, so clearly something is just not working. We're getting our asses handed to us, which means we need to switch up our strategy. RULE #1: If things start looking horrible, we need to get the gently caress out of Dodge and head back to the base to level up, using Mega Man's "Jump" skill. And so I don't waste my team's time (and they don't fillet me alive), I'm going to take a swing at this match on my own. Let's see if it helps... Part 6: "Murder Terms" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Lecw3naGg Part 7: "I Can Help Out" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI5I5EDM5Vw
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Feb 19, 2018 20:28
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So in the last battle, I decided to go it alone (to spare my team the seemingly inevitable failure of the experiment in motion) and try pushing hard into the battle until being forced to retreat, allowing me to keep any Screws won in battle and power up my team. It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off. Part 8: "The Truth Just Hurts" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_kX2JtuC_8 Part 9: "For Now, It's Going Great" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdCbKLcEGa8
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Feb 20, 2018 18:04
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SUCCESS! Okay, so the big lessons learned here: If the battle's getting bad, loving bail. You get to keep your Screws and come back stronger, and it turns out leveling up Mega Man isn't even all that expensive. Also, bringing in a type-appropriate cavalry helps tons, and changing Mega Man's type so he can use stronger weapons is an absolute MUST. Now let's bring Ben back and see if this plan works in the second battle, against Taurus. Part 10: "This Snowy Place" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE6urBFtZIg Part 11: "Free to Reach the Designated Location" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Ei8ICFJXI
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Feb 21, 2018 16:23
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Hell yes! Okay, now we have a rhythm going -- we're headed into the... spike mines (???) to square off against Gemini and his rather interesting dual identities... Part 12: "Where Nothing Is Not in English" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-qoU_gogCk Part 13: "Scorpions at the Bottom of the Ocean" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjVRRRAvTFw Part 14: "2,000 Hours of poo poo" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3k5x4dAW-s
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Feb 22, 2018 06:16
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Feb 23, 2018 19:33
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Tell me about it. What's honestly hilarious is that this game has a "5 out of 10" quality strategy RPG buried inside somewhere, but it's drowned in unintelligible nonsense and that atrocious battle mechanic. If we get through the first wave of Zodiacs, maybe things will get a little clearer. Part 15: "I'll Get You Cancer!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukKreH64-10 Part 16: "Say Nothing When They Die" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FRauWaeR6Y
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Feb 26, 2018 20:13
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Okay, gently caress yes, we got through the first set of Zodiac guys, which means we unlocked the next set of four. I'm gonna take a wild stab and say the game is gonna jump in difficulty just a little bit here, so we'll see if we can get through Leo our first time through. I think I'm starting to get the hang of this, guys. Part 17: "Things Are Really Heating Up" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exqsDAPU6oA Part 18: "Bomb-rear end Turn" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53H8wUOlATU
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Mar 2, 2018 18:12
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I've been catching up and I'm just wondering if you ever figure out that the blue bar under the red health bar seems to be for special attacks and how to use special attacks on your own characters.
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Mar 2, 2018 21:15
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Mraagvpeine posted:I've been catching up and I'm just wondering if you ever figure out that the blue bar under the red health bar seems to be for special attacks and how to use special attacks on your own characters. It does appear to be a Special Attack meter! When in battle, when your active meter at the top of the screen fills up, you get a set of five options, which appears to correspond to Attack, Special Attack (menu), Item (menu), Defend, and Run. From the Special Attack menu, you get a list of options with their cost next to it. You can also recover Special Attack power (referred to in the translation as "Skill Points") by using Battery items. So after recording Part 18, I rather abruptly no longer had access to the machine we were using to host our game, which meant I had to set up a brand new VirtualBox with a brand new ISO with a brand new save file, which meant playing through all of this again. And when I did, after the first set of bosses, I ended up getting access to an area called "Secret Sewer", which was not there the first time around. It seems that because we didn't let Duo die during any of the earlier levels, we get a chance to rescue him and keep him permanently. Let's give it a go... Part 19: "Master of Robats" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5olqafk6FE Part 20: "Games That I Would Rather Not Play" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o2F64mhtis (oh, and because this level technically comes before the Leo fight, I put this above those episodes in the master list above)
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Mar 3, 2018 20:21
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Okay, so we've got the Secret Sewer all cleared, and the reward was getting to keep Duo on our team permanently! AND HE CAN FIGHT, HOLY poo poo. FINALLY. And as an extra bonus, someone has joined our Discord server who is a Hong Kong native and has already given me a lot more insight into the game mechanics than we were likely to ever glean from the game ourselves. Hoping we can make some real magic happen the next time we record! Part 21: "The Mythos of That Man" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzu5vvI5OuU Part 22: "Shakespeare Mode" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoMLmreSqKc
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Mar 7, 2018 05:42
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I don't know how to break this to you guys softly. This next fight is called "Desert Storm". Thanks, 2001! Part 23: "Stop Ragging on My Hose" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVAvOIgb8lo Part 24: "Fast and Underwhelming" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKNcf5am6kY
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Mar 8, 2018 22:55
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I'm almost caught up and a few thoughts. First, would leveling up Rush not only increase his energy, and thus the number of chances you can get items, but also improve his ability to get items (instead of 1/3 it would improve to 1/2)? And second, if the important characters (like Duo and Eddie) can come back despite dying, why not send them against the robot masters and deplete their special meter (I call this strategy the Zapp Brannigan)? At the very least it would give them something to do.
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Mar 10, 2018 21:58
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Mar 16, 2018 06:18
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I've only watched the first two videos and most of the main character portraits either have derpy eyes (Mega Man, Rush) or look like they've had a stroke (Dr. Wily, Roll). I thought Capcom learned their lesson of giving contractors the OK to make their games after Mega Man 2 for the Game Boy.
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Mar 16, 2018 21:45
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Mraagvpeine posted:I'm almost caught up and a few thoughts. First, would leveling up Rush not only increase his energy, and thus the number of chances you can get items, but also improve his ability to get items (instead of 1/3 it would improve to 1/2)? Definitely a possibility worth exploring. On the one hand, I suspect that his Stamina/Energy/Whatever won't increase, since Mega Man's has been steady the entire time, but on the other hand Rush could theoretically learn a more reliable Excavation technique. We shall see! Mraagvpeine posted:And second, if the important characters (like Duo and Eddie) can come back despite dying, why not send them against the robot masters and deplete their special meter (I call this strategy the Zapp Brannigan)? At the very least it would give them something to do. True, though the issue is more that oftentimes they just get OHKO'ed before they get a chance to land a single hit in the first place, so it just tends to waste time more than anything else. As we add more party members on the level of Duo, I may start removing the lower-strength ones, we shall see! Herr Tog posted:holy poo poo what is this hell. this is hell. and it's all in chinese. get that OUT of my face posted:I've only watched the first two videos and most of the main character portraits either have derpy eyes (Mega Man, Rush) or look like they've had a stroke (Dr. Wily, Roll). I thought Capcom learned their lesson of giving contractors the OK to make their games after Mega Man 2 for the Game Boy. You would think, wouldn't you? Between giving it to Rozner Labs for the DOS games, yanking it from Minakuchi to give it to BIOX for Mega Man II, or even just their own weirdness with Super Adventure Rockman, this experimental poo poo just never seems to work out well for them. Part 25: "One Life-or-Death Decision" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBkhhXs-4OA Part 26: "Prick You Gently" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_NEgaWPqsQ
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Mar 29, 2018 02:40
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I can't watch this anymore it's too awful. I have no idea how you guys can still play this thing.
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Mar 29, 2018 02:57
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ricdesi posted:True, though the issue is more that oftentimes they just get OHKO'ed before they get a chance to land a single hit in the first place, so it just tends to waste time more than anything else. As we add more party members on the level of Duo, I may start removing the lower-strength ones, we shall see! The point isn't to weaken them through their HP, but exhausting their special attacks so that the Robot Masters won't be able to kill Mega Man.
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Mar 29, 2018 18:08
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MonsterEnvy posted:I can't watch this anymore it's too awful. I have no idea how you guys can still play this thing. You held out as long as you could. We will remember you fondly. We fight on in your honor. Mraagvpeine posted:The point isn't to weaken them through their HP, but exhausting their special attacks so that the Robot Masters won't be able to kill Mega Man. Oh, fair enough, I can see the value in that, yeah. It's not an enormous risk anymore, but cannon foddering them at the Robot Masters could have some benefits like that, yeah. Looks like we've unlocked another secret area, LET'S ROLL. Part 27: "Bad in My Bones" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOIXj988-2o Part 28: "But I'm Still an American!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9KAOAz-SLU
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Mar 30, 2018 02:24
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We keep getting these "extra stages" and we can't figure out why... let's see how far down this rabbit hole goes. Part 29: "He Thinks He's in Charge" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ68mAZfi1I Part 30: "A Bad Case of the Fire Spurts" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaAgXmHpG1M
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Mar 31, 2018 00:00
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So I know this is pretty off-topic to the thread itself (and if people have an issue with it, I'll junk the post/link), but I've been busting balls since around the new year to put together a full-scale review of MegaMan NT Warrior: Stream, the fourth season of the show (and the first not to be dubbed in English). It's taken some focus away from other things, such as this very Let's Play, and was ready to roll two weeks ago until ShoPro decided to drop a giant dong-shaped copyright flag on top of us, blocking the video until we removed three clips that were... honestly, a real shame to have to toss (we did ultimately post them to Twitter instead). The bulk of our movie/TV reviews have been 40-45 minutes long, but Stream is dense and the review (which had a LOT of details removed for pacing) clocked in at 71 minutes, 67 minutes for the cut down version. If this is the sort of thing you guys might be into, I encourage giving it a look. If not, more episodes of Mega Man Strategy are coming at the start of the week! Mega Man NT Warrior: Stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnmT8lTv1ec
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Mar 31, 2018 18:29
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Considering how much content from said game is in this season is there a particular reason you decided to cover Stream before you played Battle Network 5 as opposed to after?
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Mar 31, 2018 19:54
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Release date, primarily. We've been sticking pretty hard (outside Mega Man Gold Empire and Mega Man Strategy) with keeping the stuff we do for The Mega Let's Play in chronological order of release date, so there was a bit of a risk of plot overlap. While yes, this does end up diving into Nebula Gray and Baryl/Colonel a bit, the plots diverge hard enough that it shouldn't be too too big of a deal. Stream is kind of an outlier too, since it tries to course-correct the wildly divergent Axess by making it a little closer to the game canon like they did with EXE.
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Mar 31, 2018 22:24
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WE ARE BACK! My birthday + The D-Pad's birthday + PAX East meant that there was a bit of a struggle to keep our release schedule moving, but thankfully we're past that now, and it looks like we'll be keeping this game coming out on a continuous weekday basis for the remainder. So here's the last video we put up before the unexpected break... Part 31: "Patient Flowers" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHlw1ee2YA And now, at long last, we get back to the Constellation Robots. Let's kick Sagittarius's teeth in! Part 32: "Hidden Character" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyI41zxcuRM
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Apr 17, 2018 02:31
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So, we call it out in the next video, but thanks to the help of Gavin the Dragon, we finally have a detailed OST that includes the track associations (how they found this out is black magic I simply cannot comprehend), so we'll be using the actual level music from here on out. So let's finish taking care of Sagittarius and keep on pushing forward. Part 33: "Status Quo" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG7c7pKJcQ
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So uh... there's a bit of a snag when it comes to fighting Capricorn in this game. And we did not take that into consideration... Part 34: "No Meat" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGh3ijeGrh4
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Oh dear. Here comes the boom. We were supposed to prepare something very specific (outside of game) to make this even doable at all. poo poo, son. Part 35: "You Are Very Strong" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KEyw_mqbHA
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Apr 19, 2018 20:38
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So to explain, in case we didn't do a good enough job in the last video: whether by accident or intent, in battle Capricorn takes exactly 1 HP of damage from ANY attack, regardless of strength. If you don't have the right items, this means that beating Capricorn is literally impossible (and even worse, he automatically heals at the start of his turn), and it was recommended we use Cheat Engine if there was no other way to get by. Thankfully, we have a number of Bombs (thanks to letting Rush do nothing at all but Excavate for several dozen episodes), and since they do exactly 25% Max HP damage to their target, this bypasses the "perfect defense" and kills him in four item uses. SO, this means we're moving on to Aquarius, the eleventh Constellation Robot, and I think we're reaching a level where we can pretty much blast through these battles now... Part 36: "Doing Neutral" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQd2Syp7WHA
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Oh my god, at this rate we're gonna get through the whole game without making it to Page 2. loving save me. Anyway, it's time for the final Constellation Robot, so naturally, the topic of conversation is untimely death! HOORAY Part 37: "The D Is for Depression" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3fNQDyQck
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Apr 24, 2018 23:20
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I wonder if the map will extend to the American continents.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I wonder if the map will extend to the American continents. Oh hey. I didn't even notice that, we spent the first half in Eurasia, and the second half in Africa. Somehow, I doubt we're going to go any further west, but it would certainly be nice. Instead, we're moving to take on Apollo, one of the two leaders of the Constellation Robots freshly taken over by Dr. Wily. He's got a fuckload of mooks, but will he be any more interesting or difficult than the twelve that came before? Part 38: "Very Smooth on the Inside" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSycPXzRJ74
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Site was down when I came to post this, so hey, here it is while I work on my first totally-unrelated-to-any-of-our-LP-series video essay things. The Constellation Robots are loving dead. Part 39: "Zodiac Killer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZPgQkXRC0s
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It's been a long... long time coming, but we've finally arrived at the final fight. We need to kick the poo poo out of Dr. Wily. Part 40: "Give Up of Your Plan Now" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwqDLtxrbSc ...and then fight him in "DIMENSIONAL SPACE"? Jesus, I would never have expected so many weird parallels between this and Sonic Shuffle, especially playing them simultaneously. Part 41: "The Fire Hose" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLHlsOZ5JXc Part 42: "He Can't Come Out Mopped" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kDyDUoZCaU And there you loving have it. What a total mess of a game, depressingly close to being an enjoyable experience, but with such a sloppy execution that... it just doesn't work. Now, we have one last little surprise for you guys tomorrow, maybe it'll be worth it all in the end.
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This was certainly an unique game in the Mega Man series. It's a shame you guys couldn't figure out how to access those extra levels, but I suppose now someone will be encouraged to be the first to 100% this game. Maybe.
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Mraagvpeine posted:This was certainly an unique game in the Mega Man series. It's a shame you guys couldn't figure out how to access those extra levels, but I suppose now someone will be encouraged to be the first to 100% this game. Maybe. That's my ultimate hope! And that's why I decided to take some time to make this video: How to Install & Play Rockman Strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO1wJu-jnp4 There's a lot of good, juicy data kicking around in there, and I already know how to mess more with the raw data and images than I did while playing the game. My hope from here is that someone takes up the reins and keeps going, and digging, and gives us a more complete and thorough look into this weird, weird game. If anyone here wants to dig in, you can find all the info you need in the video above and at dpad.fm/strategy! ricdesi fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 3, 2018 |
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