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lol you could feasibly keep on doing that crisis path, fighting off your previous old empire, forever
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HelloSailorSign posted:lol you could feasibly keep on doing that crisis path, fighting off your previous old empire, forever until only your last empire remains in the ruins of a broken galaxy.
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Soylent Pudding posted:I really want to combine that with rogue servitors and take the entire galactic population to nirvana. I still want to know where pops on ships is going to happen so we can have GSVs
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AtomikKrab posted:until only your last empire remains in the ruins of a broken galaxy. There's a few sci fi stories like this. Isn't that implied in the end of the book 2001 A Space Odyssey? And Transformers: Last Bot Standing. I'm also reminded of a mix of the Astronomicon and a weaponised Deep Thought, lol. You could already have multiple empires as Crisis Aspirants, right? Now we can see different galactic apocalypses duking it out. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:You could already have multiple empires as Crisis Aspirants, right? Now we can see different galactic apocalypses duking it out. The AI will never take the perk if there is more than 1 already, so best case you'll get two AIs and then yourself.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:There's a few sci fi stories like this. Isn't that implied in the end of the book 2001 A Space Odyssey? And Transformers: Last Bot Standing.
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Splicer posted:"We made too many pockets universes and now the parent universe is going to suffer a total existence failure" is the penultimate state of relatively current media property the three body problem Thank you for the spoiler -- I was wondering what that show was about, and that's the best explanation I've seen. 
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What would be the thematic, "roleplay" difference between an empire that was fanatic spiritualist, regular authoritarian, and an empire that was regular spiritualist, fanatic authoritarian?
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two fish posted:What would be the thematic, "roleplay" difference between an empire that was fanatic spiritualist, regular authoritarian, and an empire that was regular spiritualist, fanatic authoritarian? Fanatic Spiritualists would be controlling the populace because it says so in the space bible, while Fanatic Authoritarians would be writing the space bible as a method to control the populace.
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two fish posted:What would be the thematic, "roleplay" difference between an empire that was fanatic spiritualist, regular authoritarian, and an empire that was regular spiritualist, fanatic authoritarian? One is the church, one is the US?
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IIRC, Spiritualist ethics implicitly affects how much of your government is intertwined with religion, vs separation of church and state and all that. Not to mention as Fanatic Spiritualist you can still have an oligarchy rather than being restricted to dictatorial or imperial like Fanatic Authoritarian. Thinking like, the Anglican church as one example of a state religion, vs Imperial Rome where the Emperor is also among many other things considered the chief priest, but religion's clearly a tool of statecraft, and then Egyptian Pharaohs who are proclaimed as explicitly divine. (Imperial Cult and all, though you can have that with any combination of Authoritarian and Spiritualist)
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Unsurprisingly, all the new art looks amazing. Really love these vaguely-Egyptian themed avian robbits. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/stellaris-dev-diary-342-the-art-of-the-machine-age-part-i.1666149/ This expansion seems huge.
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Both of those new ship sets absolutely slaps, I loving love them
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What is the point of Harm Relations, and how would that even look in real life?
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two fish posted:What is the point of Harm Relations, and how would that even look in real life? Your posts suck and your penis is small.
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Maybe you want to bully a neighbor, but naturally aligning ethics are building trust. Harm relations will reverse that so that you can declare a rivalry. Or sometimes it can bait them into a war on your terms. As for the flavor, I assume it's public denouncements or trade embargos. I don't know if Harm Relations actually adds anything to the game though, beyond it being an extra step in diplomacy. It's always been a quick means to an end, rather than part of a long term strategy.
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Jack Trades posted:Your posts suck and your penis is small. I said Harm Relations, not Make Claims.
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two fish posted:What is the point of Harm Relations, and how would that even look in real life? insulting/bullying someone until they hit back, then claim you're the victim in space UN
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Truga posted:insulting/bullying someone until they hit back, then claim you're the victim in space UN Basically, "Harm Relations" is what Russia is doing
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two fish posted:What is the point of Harm Relations, and how would that even look in real life? It looks like nothing. The main reason it exists is because game mechanics require you to have low relations for certain diplomacy system interactions, it's an entirely artificial concession to that which has no commonplace parallel in actual diplomacy. In actual diplomacy, you might intentionally do things that make another party dislike you, but that is almost never the intended primary effect, rather more of a side-effect of something else you're trying to do. That's because actual diplomatic actions you might want to take don't really depend on (i.e., are not possible without) the other party disliking you. I don't super care about this because it doesn't really have to be a simulation of things that happen in normal, real diplomacy, and I am sure an IR or diplomatic history buff could find an example of diplomats deliberately making the nation they're assigned to dislike their own for that specific purpose, but it is kind of annoying that you could do the same thing (i.e., harming relations) as a byproduct of more typical stuff, like: denouncing a nation to impress your own people or political class or other nations that also dislike the target (the goal is improving your standing with one group at the expense of your standing with another), or meddling in another nation's internal politics (the goal is to foster discontent in the other nation and that just so happens to make them dislike you), or issuing some insult, provocation, or trick to goad them into attacking when you want to fight but don't want to look like the aggressor (the goal is to make the other party do something, pissing them off is just a means to that end). This last one is the closest to what "Harm Relations" looks like in the game, but making them attack you isn't necessarily an outcome of doing that. Notable here is that some of the requirements of the "Insult" and "Declare Rival" diplomatic actions are either bad relations to begin with (which "Harm Relations" can cause), or that an envoy is currently assigned to "Harm Relations." Edit: Jack Trades posted:If you tank your relationship with X then you'll gain relationship with everyone who hates X as well, afaik. If this is true, then just ignore all the dumb poo poo I said! 
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For harm relations just look to the coordinated media campaign about how the Chinese Communist Party is using Tik Toks to turn our kids into woke transgender Palestinians.
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Soylent Pudding posted:For harm relations just look to the coordinated media campaign about how the Chinese Communist Party is using Tik Toks to turn our kids into woke transgender Palestinians. Right, so for example: here the goal is not actually "Make China dislike us," it's about internal political grandstanding and/or business deals and/or national security/propaganda concerns at the expense of relations with China.
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If you tank your relationship with X then you'll gain relationship with everyone who hates X as well, afaik.
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Libluini posted:Basically, "Harm Relations" is what Russia is doing lmfao
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So it's like sending over a Karen ambassador?
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you send a guy over to the embassy and he just sleeps on the couch and eats everything in the office fridge. he won't leave unless they declare war.
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Libluini posted:Basically, "Harm Relations" is what America is doing
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GunnerJ posted:Right, so for example: here the goal is not actually "Make China dislike us," it's about internal political grandstanding and/or business deals and/or national security/propaganda concerns at the expense of relations with China. Is this an example of "harm relations" or just making somebody officially a rival? (It's all so complicated.  )
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Harm relations is when Joe Biden says people from PNG ate his uncle.
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GunnerJ posted:Right, so for example: here the goal is not actually "Make China dislike us," it's about internal political grandstanding and/or business deals and/or national security/propaganda concerns at the expense of relations with China. prefect posted:Is this an example of "harm relations" or just making somebody officially a rival? (It's all so complicated. You know, it'd make a lot of sense to merge Harm Relations and Rivalry and/or scale the benefits of Rivalries based on how much you hate each other. Splicer fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Apr 27, 2024 |
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the funniest poo poo is always when enemy empires send me, the player, an insult I'm like, thanks for trying, but until you find a way to change the game's programming, my hands are still at the override button no war for you, lol
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Libluini posted:the funniest poo poo is always when enemy empires send me, the player, an insult I mostly get this during a war that I am very clearly winning.
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My current Borg game I have 3 maxed out relic worlds and 3 maxed out ring worlds along with a bunch of unemployed pops. I now regret doing the machine tall/defensive civic, as I could really used jobs for these pops. Mid 2300s, the exterminators were 900 days from being voted the crisis when they hit crisis level 5 and pulled the whole galaxy against them. They could do a decent job against the rest of the galaxy, but their fleets are 60-80k and mine are 160-250k each, and I've got nearly a dozen. Fleet isn't maxed out and I can probably support another 6-9 fleets without too much trouble. My territory is all super spread out so defending is gonna be a pain. The rift action which lets you insta jump to anywhere in your territory, plus having jump drives, is gonna be a godsend to getting anywhere on the map very rapidly. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Apr 27, 2024 |
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Libluini posted:the funniest poo poo is always when enemy empires send me, the player, an insult Might be interesting if receiving an insult created a Militarist faction demand to declare war on whoever sent it, ideally one that has little or no downside for ignoring but an upside to fulfilling.
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